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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 12:28:21
January 29 2016 10:56 GMT
#1
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Balance Update Today

The Balance Update is going out today and we’ve been discussing many potential issues and topics internally and externally, but now is the time to refocus and analyze the effects of today’s patch changes and realign our immediate goals.

Beginning today, we’re focusing on the specific issues and changes that will come from the balance update. We’re getting a lot of mixed feedback based on initial impressions. One example is TvP at the pro level in KR, where we’re getting feedback ranging from “Protoss has completely no chance vs. Terran and will lose every single game,” to “these changes were way too minor that there’s no impact whatsoever in the matchup,” with lots more between those two extremes.

What this shows is that it takes time for even the very best players in the world to know for certain the impact of any changes to the game. So let’s keep an open mind, play a lot of games, explore exactly what changed, and discuss what the best moves will be going forward.


Wait Time Issue at the Top of the Ladder

There was an issue where the highest skill level players were getting a higher frequency of uneven matches, and we are hoping to put out a solution very soon to increase match quality by giving these players more time to find ideal opponents in the queue. This will be addressed with the season roll on February 1.


League Boundary Distribution Update

We made some minor adjustments to Bronze and Silver leagues to maintain our previous percentages. These adjustments are also planned to be addressed with the season roll on February 1.


Leave League Bug

This turned out to not to be a universal issue, but we have confirmed that under certain circumstances leaving league can produce unintended matchmaking behavior. We have already mitigated various edge cases that led to this in recent hotfixes, and we expect further improvements moving forward.


No New Maps for Season 1

As we discussed at the end of last year, we aren’t planning to add new maps for Season 1. We wanted to review our reasoning behind this again, because we are seeing some discussion regarding this topic.

- The time between the launch of Legacy of the Void and the start of Season 1 has been quite short, so it’ll be better for players not to have to swap out to completely new maps already.

- Balance tuning wise, we have been looking into specific issues brought up such as Reapers in TvZ on Orbital, but haven’t seen a need yet to do a specific tuning change on a specific map. This is where we should definitely focus our efforts, and if there are specific parts of a map that need to be addressed, we want to work on that. We can make balance updates to maps any time if they are needed, so please keep this in mind when we discuss specific map issues.

- Diversity wise, the current maps definitely provide a variety of unique map elements, and it’s safe to say that the current maps haven’t been fully figured out.


We believe these are solid reasons to keep the current map pool for Season 1. However, because these maps will be on rotation a bit longer than normal, we should definitely discuss the potential of rotating a higher number of maps out for Season 2. Let’s get discussions going regarding this question this week.


Online Features

We wanted to provide an update on ongoing work in various parts of the game:


Ladder Improvements

The ladder changes we presented at BlizzCon continue to evolve. We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


Co-op Mode

We are excited that so many players are enjoying co-op mode, and we are actively exploring ways to make the experience more varied and more open-ended. We look forward to providing an update on our progress in the months ahead.
As discussed at BlizzCon, we also plan to continue releasing new maps and new commanders over the course of the year.


Skins and Voice Packs

As we shared in the "Future of StarCraft II" panel at BlizzCon, we plan to release skins and voice packs after the Nova mission packs. A new achievement-based skin will be rolling out sooner, but we’re working on a broad selection of skin and voice pack content for later in the year, along with changes in the engine and UI to accommodate this new content.


Tournaments

Archon and team tournaments are still in our plans, but we won’t begin work on these until after the ladder improvements are complete.
We are also actively considering various suggestions from the community, such as no time limit for the tournament finals, having different trophies per season, or having even more types of tournament modes. We don’t have specific plans or timelines around these yet, but we will continue discussing and exploring these ideas.


Back-End

We’re working on a variety of improvements under the covers, including further protections against hacking, various performance optimizations, improvements to how our patch deployments work, and more.


That’s just a sample of the things that we’re actively working on, and there’s a lot of other work in motion and in our backlog. Please keep in mind that after we begin implementing a change, we still need time for iteration, polish, localization, and quality assurance before new features and content are ready to be deployed. We’re grateful for your support and your patience as we continue to evolve StarCraft II!

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Poll: Opinion on the update on the S1 map pooL?

Exchange Central and Lerilak for the GSL maps and remove the gold bases on Prion Terraces. (186)
 
59%

We need at least 4 new maps! (94)
 
30%

I'm happy. Do not change the map pool for S1. (19)
 
6%

Neutral! (17)
 
5%

316 total votes

Your vote: Opinion on the update on the S1 map pooL?

(Vote): I'm happy. Do not change the map pool for S1.
(Vote): Neutral!
(Vote): We need at least 4 new maps!
(Vote): Exchange Central and Lerilak for the GSL maps and remove the gold bases on Prion Terraces.




Poll: Opinion on the online features?

Disappointed. Expected the features a lot earlier. (166)
 
64%

Happy with the update, good things take time. (64)
 
25%

Neutral. (28)
 
11%

258 total votes

Your vote: Opinion on the online features?

(Vote): Happy with the update, good things take time.
(Vote): Neutral.
(Vote): Disappointed. Expected the features a lot earlier.




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Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
January 29 2016 11:03 GMT
#2
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
JonnySC2
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany119 Posts
January 29 2016 11:05 GMT
#3
Everything sounds good but no new maps really does suck. Atleast give us the GSL map pool.
SKT best KT
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 11:06:48
January 29 2016 11:05 GMT
#4
We can make balance updates to maps any time if they are needed, so please keep this in mind when we discuss specific map issues.


Then please at least remove the gold base at the third on prion terraces asap, the one on the 4th too if possible, but I guess then it's no langer "creative" enough.

The time between the launch of Legacy of the Void and the start of Season 1 has been quite short, so it’ll be better for players not to have to swap out to completely new maps already


A lot of the maps have been in since the beta though, so at least remove two of them and put in the GSL maps!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 29 2016 11:12 GMT
#5
On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious


Yeah this is disappointing to say the least. While all the community figures who were at these summits said that the blizzard team working on sc2 is quite large and commited, it really doesn't show at all...
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
IceBerrY
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany220 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 11:17:42
January 29 2016 11:16 GMT
#6
Disappointing, i am sorry.
Many things are taking much to long. In the end this will mean, the ladder revamp will come 1 year after release.
Dear god, what a slow way to start LotV. The reasoning behind not changing the map pool is lame and an excuse, everyone knows it, typical DK answer. :D

I know TL is harsh and salty very often, but this slowmo progress isn´t helping either.
WhaleOFaTALE1
Profile Joined April 2015
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 11:21:04
January 29 2016 11:20 GMT
#7
People dont play half the maps in the pool and yet we are keeping it!?!
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
January 29 2016 11:21 GMT
#8
and we thought blizzard had learned a thing or two by now....

1 year post-release for the ladder revamp? lol
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
January 29 2016 11:22 GMT
#9
On January 29 2016 20:16 IceBerrY wrote:

I know TL is harsh and salty very often,


TL would also be hyped if they did something right or suprise us with a ladder revamp in a resonable amount of time or just any implementation of what they promised us years ago.

It seems only one way harsh (the salty way) because blizz keeps fucking up.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
91matt
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom147 Posts
January 29 2016 11:24 GMT
#10
Honestly just can't bring myself to play sc2 anymore, I want there to be something positive to say about it but there just isn't. Blizzard is slow af.

No new maps is just a joke aswel.
cactus555
Profile Joined October 2015
47 Posts
January 29 2016 11:25 GMT
#11
a year to revamp the ladder
no new maps
lol


uninstall.exe
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 11:29:20
January 29 2016 11:27 GMT
#12
It's just not smart from Blizzard imo. They need to give us some candy every now and then. It's been a while since release, and we didn't get anything so far. Now we know that most of the stuff won't be there until the end of the year, so the least they could do, is give us some new maps.

GSL already has two of them and nobody would complain, if they just implemented those into the ladder for season 1.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 29 2016 11:27 GMT
#13
how big and dedicated is their team again?
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
January 29 2016 11:29 GMT
#14
On January 29 2016 20:27 Aocowns wrote:
how big and dedicated is their team again?


everyones dedicated on coop missions and writing huge wall of texts
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
January 29 2016 11:30 GMT
#15
lol

User was warned for this post
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 29 2016 11:31 GMT
#16
On January 29 2016 20:29 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 20:27 Aocowns wrote:
how big and dedicated is their team again?


everyones dedicated on coop missions and writing huge wall of texts


I do actually believe that the team is big, but I don't think the multiplayer team is. I'm sure most of the work hours go into the nova DLC.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 11:35:21
January 29 2016 11:31 GMT
#17
not even a screenshot or proof of concept of skin/voice shop???

edit, also, this is bullshit timing, because i know people will be like "oh man the skins didn't help the game at all, what a surprise!" when they eventually drop and the game is 100% dead... you need to release a skin shop when people have faith in your product, ie 2010-2012 when SC2 was the hot game in esports... blizzard releasing it 2 years from now is a COMPLETE joke, and honestly they would probably make a lot more money releasing it for broodwar instead of sc2.. i just hope this doesnt dissuade more competent developers from using skins/ui changes/voice packs to fund esports rts.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 29 2016 11:33 GMT
#18
No ladder revamp and the same maps means I won't be playing in the next season...
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 29 2016 11:34 GMT
#19
On January 29 2016 20:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious


Yeah this is disappointing to say the least. While all the community figures who were at these summits said that the blizzard team working on sc2 is quite large and commited, it really doesn't show at all...

They probably have a large and commited team making coffee for their long and commited pauses
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 29 2016 11:36 GMT
#20
Nothing about gameplay besides the same comment about the same patch that has been discussed 5 times already?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 29 2016 11:41 GMT
#21
On January 29 2016 20:36 Big J wrote:
Nothing about gameplay besides the same comment about the same patch that has been discussed 5 times already?


I'm convinced the entire sc2 team minus one or two people is working on the nova DLC campaign since that's the only thing that will actually make them money going forward
wtfishedoing
Profile Joined January 2014
Austria8 Posts
January 29 2016 11:41 GMT
#22
On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious



That's so bad.. I have no words. I'm actually pissed. Wtf are they thinking? This should have been in at release...
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 29 2016 11:41 GMT
#23
On January 29 2016 20:34 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 20:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious


Yeah this is disappointing to say the least. While all the community figures who were at these summits said that the blizzard team working on sc2 is quite large and commited, it really doesn't show at all...

They probably have a large and commited team making coffee for their long and commited pauses

It is really hard to stay positive about blizzard's work. Or even neutral.
Not sure WHY there is so little actual progress, but in the end that's not what we should (have to) care about tbh.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 29 2016 11:43 GMT
#24
The ladder thing is acceptable, but the team tournaments and archon tournaments don't require a lot of work to fix, so they should be implemented at least to soften the wait time. New maps etc should be mandatory when creating a new season.

Seriously, SC2 team. You need to look at what the diablo team does. They actively make the new seasons fun.
They change sets, add sets, insert new features, add small new areas and mob types. It keeps the game fresh cause there's always something new every season.
The Bomber boy
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
January 29 2016 11:43 GMT
#25
On January 29 2016 20:41 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 20:36 Big J wrote:
Nothing about gameplay besides the same comment about the same patch that has been discussed 5 times already?


I'm convinced the entire sc2 team minus one or two people is working on the nova DLC campaign since that's the only thing that will actually make them money going forward


minus one or two is actually zero or negative one guy working on the rest
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
January 29 2016 11:45 GMT
#26




Icebound Esports
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
January 29 2016 11:48 GMT
#27
Heroes team promised to borrow them one developer in summer.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 29 2016 11:49 GMT
#28
I just don't understand how they can expect people to keep playing every season when they add nothing new to the table other than very minor balance changes. Heroes of the storm gets a new hero every 3 weeks, new maps, constant balance changes.

These shitty maps are really all they could come up with for LOTV? They should have someone on their team making 4 or 5 new maps for every season. Skins should be coming regularly, not all at once at a to-be-determined-far-in-the-future date.

The new ladder system should have been in at release, they had nearly three years between HOTS launch and LOTV launch to come up with a new ladder system.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 29 2016 11:50 GMT
#29
I have a dream... That one day, David Kim will be moved from StarCraft once and for all, he and all of his team...

One day.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
January 29 2016 11:52 GMT
#30
Yo guys lets get some data and see if 90% of he community hates this map pool :D!!!
Icebound Esports
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
January 29 2016 11:53 GMT
#31
blizz sell sc2 to valve please
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 29 2016 11:53 GMT
#32
On January 29 2016 20:52 SNSeigifried wrote:
Yo guys lets get some data and see if 90% of he community hates this map pool :D!!!
https://twitter.com/Seigifried/status/693038884469477376


We once had a poll for Macro mechanics, they replied they saw it but still they won't change their thought about it.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 29 2016 11:57 GMT
#33
What a joke.
Zest fanboy.
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
January 29 2016 11:58 GMT
#34
No clue what blizzard is thinking or even doing these days tbh
I love hellbats
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 12:08:57
January 29 2016 12:04 GMT
#35
No new maps. DK pls?!

Seriously

What the fuck

So, I guess, TLDR:

- Ladder is a mess. May update in 6 months.
- Ladder is bugged. May update in 12 months.
- Ladder map pool is fine according to us. U have arguments against it? lol no we have data we're never gonna show. No change.

BUT GUYS WE ARE DOING THINGS UNDER THE COVERS RLY RLY!
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
January 29 2016 12:07 GMT
#36
They said absolutely nothing in this "update". All they said was: "We are still working on it. Things will happen. We can not tell you what and we can not tell you when but something is going to happen some day in the future!".
Wow. Good job blizzard.
WhaleOFaTALE1
Profile Joined April 2015
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 12:11:54
January 29 2016 12:11 GMT
#37
Can we start a poll on who wants new maps to quantify our pissed offness...atleast it will make us feel better even if blizz doesnt care
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 29 2016 12:13 GMT
#38
On January 29 2016 21:11 WhaleOFaTALE1 wrote:
Can we start a poll on who wants new maps to quantify our pissed offness...atleast it will make us feel better even if blizz doesnt care

Scroll up a bit for your post
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
WhaleOFaTALE1
Profile Joined April 2015
47 Posts
January 29 2016 12:14 GMT
#39
On January 29 2016 21:13 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 21:11 WhaleOFaTALE1 wrote:
Can we start a poll on who wants new maps to quantify our pissed offness...atleast it will make us feel better even if blizz doesnt care

Scroll up a bit for your post


BUT i dont have twitter and still want to partcipate in the hate!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
January 29 2016 12:14 GMT
#40
I just hope they can let us know the schedule for new skin voice packs coop missions etc.
everything is just later this year or on the way.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
JWD[9]
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
364 Posts
January 29 2016 12:17 GMT
#41
TL needs a pitchfork smiley, bring me DK's head...
Nah, but I am wondering what they were doing over the last months and if they play sc2 as much as the average player, because it feels like an eternity since these maps are in rotation.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 29 2016 12:18 GMT
#42
On January 29 2016 21:14 WhaleOFaTALE1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 21:13 SC2Toastie wrote:
On January 29 2016 21:11 WhaleOFaTALE1 wrote:
Can we start a poll on who wants new maps to quantify our pissed offness...atleast it will make us feel better even if blizz doesnt care

Scroll up a bit for your post


BUT i dont have twitter and still want to partcipate in the hate!


If you cannot even commit to a twitter for this you cannot be a real hater.
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
January 29 2016 12:22 GMT
#43
On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious


Same reaction literally.
Less is more.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 29 2016 12:23 GMT
#44
On January 29 2016 21:17 JWD[9] wrote:
TL needs a pitchfork smiley, bring me DK's head...
Nah, but I am wondering what they were doing over the last months and if they play sc2 as much as the average player, because it feels like an eternity since these maps are in rotation.

personally i dont get the david kim hate, he seemed decent enough when i met him, it's corporate blizz that is forcing them to not make any drastic changes i'm betting..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1894 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 12:27:02
January 29 2016 12:26 GMT
#45
This is pathetic. I mean, common, I kinda got motivated to start laddering again with the new balance patch, but now same map pool for another 2-3 months? still not sure if I regret buying this expansion or not...
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 29 2016 12:27 GMT
#46
Can we change the title to "Not an update" cus there's nothing in here we didn't already know/
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 12:32:14
January 29 2016 12:30 GMT
#47
I included two polls in the OP. I hope they are okay and not too biased. If they are, feel free to remove them mods.

I included a possible last minute change in the map pool question, that I've seen floating around.

Poll: Opinion on the online features?

Disappointed. Expected the features a lot earlier. (166)
 
64%

Happy with the update, good things take time. (64)
 
25%

Neutral. (28)
 
11%

258 total votes

Your vote: Opinion on the online features?

(Vote): Happy with the update, good things take time.
(Vote): Neutral.
(Vote): Disappointed. Expected the features a lot earlier.



Poll: Opinion on the update on the S1 map pooL?

Exchange Central and Lerilak for the GSL maps and remove the gold bases on Prion Terraces. (186)
 
59%

We need at least 4 new maps! (94)
 
30%

I'm happy. Do not change the map pool for S1. (19)
 
6%

Neutral! (17)
 
5%

316 total votes

Your vote: Opinion on the update on the S1 map pooL?

(Vote): I'm happy. Do not change the map pool for S1.
(Vote): Neutral!
(Vote): We need at least 4 new maps!
(Vote): Exchange Central and Lerilak for the GSL maps and remove the gold bases on Prion Terraces.


Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
January 29 2016 12:31 GMT
#48
On January 29 2016 21:23 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 21:17 JWD[9] wrote:
TL needs a pitchfork smiley, bring me DK's head...
Nah, but I am wondering what they were doing over the last months and if they play sc2 as much as the average player, because it feels like an eternity since these maps are in rotation.

personally i dont get the david kim hate, he seemed decent enough when i met him, it's corporate blizz that is forcing them to not make any drastic changes i'm betting..

People dont like to hate on a faceless entity. They enjoy focusing their hate on a person. DK is their sacrificial goat. They put him up to take the blame for everybody. He is the blizzard version of jesus basically. Just wait, 2000 years from now he will have his own religion and people will tell about the sacrifices he made and all the bad things he had to endure for the sake of others.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
January 29 2016 12:32 GMT
#49
blizzard's community team is lazy ass shit. There are tons of people willing to prepare great maps and they don't check with them.
If you can't manage to do it, there are hundreds of people who would want to do something for their beloved game.

And now, the company is saying such thing as
let’s keep an open mind, play a lot of games, explore exactly what changed, and discuss what the best moves will be going forward.

In translation = we screwed the game, we don't know what is going on, but we'll change a thing or two. After you whine again and again we'll screw you over again and fuck it up continuously. Stay with the game, play tons of games and we'll do shit about the real issues. Just play more games.

How could anybody play something if it always makes him sad, upset and makes him rage all the time?
It's not a game that provides us great emotions and passion, that makes us want to improve and compete. It's a game that fucks us over and makes us feel dumb.

to be honest - Blizzard's approach to RTS and their knowledge about what they are doing is CRAP
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
KOtical
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany451 Posts
January 29 2016 12:36 GMT
#50
no new maps?!? ok another season without me playing
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 29 2016 12:37 GMT
#51
This is like the revolver, rifle and pistol upgrade in CSGO.

Let's hope Blizzard proves as smart as ValvE in realising their huge mistake.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
January 29 2016 12:39 GMT
#52
Seriously, the multiplayer team is either non existent or there are some very serious problems there. 5 guys could make an entire new game in the time it takes this team to make a balance test map or some maps.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
January 29 2016 12:41 GMT
#53
On January 29 2016 21:39 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Seriously, the multiplayer team is either non existent or there are some very serious problems there. 5 guys could make an entire new game in the time it takes this team to make a balance test map or some maps.

Welcome to the new internship program in Blizzard. It is called StarCraft2.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 29 2016 12:43 GMT
#54
No new maps? Are you serious? Ughhhhh..
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 29 2016 12:48 GMT
#55
On January 29 2016 21:43 The_Templar wrote:
No new maps? Are you serious? Ughhhhh..


I assumed that CP and Prion would be removed no matter what. I mean it is so obvious to everyone that those shouldn't be played.

As for Ulrena, people seems to like it somewhat, even though it's a free win PvT and basicly a free win PvZ.

I personally find Lerilak impossible to play PvZ on, but some seem to be able to defend. So I would be okay with leaving this in pool. I could just veto it and keep some of the new maps.


But no? Fucking no new maps?

I've never been so disgusted with Blizzard. And I love Blizzard. But this is wrong. And it's not even up for debate. It's clearly wrong!
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Nazara
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
United Kingdom235 Posts
January 29 2016 12:49 GMT
#56
Co-op still lacks end game content. Very disappointing, for a modern surrounded by so much hype in 2015.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 12:59:30
January 29 2016 12:56 GMT
#57
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.

Luckily, I still have not bought LotV.
T P Z sagi
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
January 29 2016 12:58 GMT
#58
Maybe after they start selling DLC, they will find it in their hearts and bank accounts to start some real support for SC2 multiplayer.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
January 29 2016 13:03 GMT
#59
On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious




The time scale on the releases of these things are laughable. Game is in a horrendous spot currently and they're just doing whatever. This is why Blizzard games will never be as popular as other games they are competing against in the current era of games. Sad, but well, if they don't give a fuq guess u can't really do much.
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
January 29 2016 13:07 GMT
#60
On January 29 2016 21:56 purakushi wrote:
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.

Luckily, I still have not bought LotV.


that game is bad! I never tried it!

well ok then...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 29 2016 13:17 GMT
#61
No new maps, wow. That is quite the letdown.
Neosteel Enthusiast
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
January 29 2016 13:18 GMT
#62
Take the GSL maps and keep prion as it is.
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
civi
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway24 Posts
January 29 2016 13:19 GMT
#63
This community feedback seems kinda useless. Nothing new to be excited over
I really do enjoy to point out when people does not play starcraft2
klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
January 29 2016 13:26 GMT
#64
I literally hope, NO ONE will buy this shit nova pack. Maybe hitting their wallet will be something they understand.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
January 29 2016 13:28 GMT
#65
On January 29 2016 22:07 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 21:56 purakushi wrote:
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.

Luckily, I still have not bought LotV.


that game is bad! I never tried it!

well ok then...

Trained eyes can see a lot of things!
Malgo
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany76 Posts
January 29 2016 13:33 GMT
#66
why do they even advance to the next season? if EVERYTHING stays the same (no revamp, no new maps), they just can longer the actual season for about 2-3 months...
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 29 2016 13:36 GMT
#67
On January 29 2016 22:33 Malgo wrote:
why do they even advance to the next season? if EVERYTHING stays the same (no revamp, no new maps), they just can longer the actual season for about 2-3 months...


Because it was scheduled, and they were probably planning better things and new maps. But someone fucked up violently.

That's at least my only guess.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 29 2016 13:42 GMT
#68
On January 29 2016 22:36 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:33 Malgo wrote:
why do they even advance to the next season? if EVERYTHING stays the same (no revamp, no new maps), they just can longer the actual season for about 2-3 months...


Because it was scheduled, and they were probably planning better things and new maps. But someone fucked up violently.

That's at least my only guess.


Those kind of fuckups seems to be a bit regular.
Zest fanboy.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 29 2016 13:46 GMT
#69


haha, yeah knowing that would be scary
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 13:51:27
January 29 2016 13:50 GMT
#70
^wow it really sux not having new ladder maps T.T, the maps are getting old and lerirak central protocol, prion .... are so bad
yo
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
January 29 2016 13:51 GMT
#71
5+ months the same maps, please blizzard change some maps....
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
January 29 2016 13:53 GMT
#72
On January 29 2016 22:50 Killmouse wrote:
^wow it really sux not having new ladder maps T.T, the maps are getting old and lerirak central protocol, prion .... are so bad

Yes, and especially the maps that were already on ladder in beta are boring the shit outta me atm.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
January 29 2016 13:57 GMT
#73
I don't know about better but they're certainly going to be around longer than I expected
I Protoss winner, could it be?
fickazzz
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany152 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 14:02:44
January 29 2016 14:02 GMT
#74
Well lets assume the maps don't suck donkeyballs. Even then i would to change them once a while.... Why keep them for so long :/
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
January 29 2016 14:18 GMT
#75
On January 29 2016 10:14 Psione wrote:
There is a possibility that this upcoming season is shorter than a typical season. .

From the map contest thread, I sincerely hope this upcoming season is shorter and we get some new maps. The bnet post about the maps said that the contest winners would be integrated in the season, but then they came out and said it would be season 2.

I guess they are hard at work with DLC.
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
January 29 2016 14:25 GMT
#76
On January 29 2016 22:46 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/NarutOSC2/status/693064837316907008

haha, yeah knowing that would be scary

That's what I've been thinking about since they said that. What horrors did they have in mind when they released these maps?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Blizzkrieg
Profile Joined March 2014
95 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 14:28:08
January 29 2016 14:27 GMT
#77
On January 29 2016 20:24 91matt wrote:
Honestly just can't bring myself to play sc2 anymore, I want there to be something positive to say about it but there just isn't. Blizzard is slow af.

No new maps is just a joke as well.


Have to agree... with all the great maps the community is producing, there's no reason why they shouldn't take a little time to throw some new ones in the pool.

I mean I get it, Acti-Blizz is a large company... and as someone who works in a large orginization myself, I understand that even the smallest of changes can take a very long time to implement...

But good god, prioritize the support of your products, especially the new ones!
Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed. -Blaise Pascal
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3363 Posts
January 29 2016 15:00 GMT
#78
I m quite disappointed. I dont find lotv very fun to play as is but that d ve something i could live with if there were better maps. Not only are they utter garbage but they re gonna stay!
So i played 2v2 and 3v3 but the maps there are even worse... i really hope they ll do something soon or i will stop permanently
Horang2 fan
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:23:10
January 29 2016 15:08 GMT
#79
On January 29 2016 22:28 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:07 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 29 2016 21:56 purakushi wrote:
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.

Luckily, I still have not bought LotV.


that game is bad! I never tried it!

well ok then...

Trained eyes can see a lot of things!


Just waiting for things that should have been included upon release. I am generally quite patient, but SC2 really has been a waiting game from the start. I am not delusional and think that LotV was going to make SC2 super popular, but at the very least, these things should have been there from its launch. While understandable, it is just frustrating that LotV was released way too soon in terms of development time.

While it will never be #1 again, SC2 has so much more potential, but lots of people are okay or even good with the status quo. I am hopeful that the game will improve to some level, but it is just sad to think about how many people (pros/players/spectators) will leave the game before these essential features are live.

pre-LotV: SoonTM
LotV release: Too SoonTM
post-LotV release: SoonTM
T P Z sagi
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1119 Posts
January 29 2016 15:33 GMT
#80
No new ladder maps sounds fugly... I didnt expect any game changing updates anytime soon, but a new ladder pool :|
Pro gsl maps!
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
CTBM
Profile Joined December 2015
United Kingdom13 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:36:43
January 29 2016 15:34 GMT
#81
Seriously losing faith in this game, this is embarrassing to say the least. Bug Fixing should be top priority above all else. And the maps are currently making ladder a tedious endeavor.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1894 Posts
January 29 2016 15:39 GMT
#82
On January 30 2016 00:08 purakushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 22:28 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:07 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 29 2016 21:56 purakushi wrote:
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.

Luckily, I still have not bought LotV.


that game is bad! I never tried it!

well ok then...

Trained eyes can see a lot of things!


Just waiting for things that should have been included upon release. I am generally quite patient, but SC2 really has been a waiting game from the start. I am not delusional and think that LotV was going to make SC2 super popular, but at the very least, these things should have been there from its launch. While understandable, it is just frustrating that LotV was released way too soon in terms of development time.

While it will never be #1 again, SC2 has so much more potential, but lots of people are okay or even good with the status quo. I am hopeful that the game will improve to some level, but it is just sad to think about how many people (pros/players/spectators) will leave the game before these essential features are live.

pre-LotV: SoonTM
LotV release: Too SoonTM
post-LotV release: SoonTM


Pretty much how I feel as well.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
silverkeops
Profile Joined February 2012
France18 Posts
January 29 2016 15:49 GMT
#83
Co-op Mode

We are excited that so many players are enjoying co-op mode
Sooo they didn't look at the bug report forum it seems. Many people have stopped playing co-op because of xp bugs.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 29 2016 15:51 GMT
#84
On January 30 2016 00:49 silverkeops wrote:
Show nested quote +
Co-op Mode

We are excited that so many players are enjoying co-op mode
Sooo they didn't look at the bug report forum it seems. Many people have stopped playing co-op because of xp bugs.

saying people are enjoying it doesn't mean they're unaware of bugs o_O it just means coop is fun and people want it expanded. doesn't mean they can't fix the bugs too
TL+ Member
amanguszta
Profile Joined December 2015
6 Posts
January 29 2016 16:14 GMT
#85
I didn't bought lotv becouze of hots. Now i am happy.
Nazara
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
United Kingdom235 Posts
January 29 2016 16:18 GMT
#86
How do they know people are enjoying it? They haven't asked me. Have anyone been asked?

Co-op is fun untill you realize there is nothing to do after level 15. Just grind.
Tbh most likely people who liked co-op on release have stopped playing it. It's boring with no end game.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
January 29 2016 16:21 GMT
#87
Is it seriously hard at all to put in new maps? Like what, it takes someone 2-3 days to upload it to the server? What the hell, throw the community a bone here
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 16:25:05
January 29 2016 16:24 GMT
#88
On January 30 2016 00:34 CTBM wrote:
Seriously losing faith in this game, this is embarrassing to say the least. Bug Fixing should be top priority above all else. And the maps are currently making ladder a tedious endeavor.


You think it's not a top priority?

It's not easy to fix something like this.
You have to identify an issue, identify the source, get a solution, implement solution, verify solution. Almost all of these steps can take several days if not weeks. Especially if you were in the middle of implementing a new system altogether(which they are.)

On January 30 2016 01:18 Nazara wrote:
How do they know people are enjoying it? They haven't asked me. Have anyone been asked?

Co-op is fun untill you realize there is nothing to do after level 15. Just grind.
Tbh most likely people who liked co-op on release have stopped playing it. It's boring with no end game.


Go post a thread, or a reddit thread, and find people agreeing with you. Blizzard seems to focus on topics that blow up/get a lot of people agreeing with them.

So far most threads have been about people enjoying Co-Op.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
January 29 2016 16:25 GMT
#89
On January 30 2016 01:21 Chaggi wrote:
Is it seriously hard at all to put in new maps? Like what, it takes someone 2-3 days to upload it to the server? What the hell, throw the community a bone here

I think it's just the play hard attitude. If they are convinced that they are right, they will decide to ride the storm in the hope that they will be proven right and the community wrong. Browder used to do this all the time.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 29 2016 16:33 GMT
#90
On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious


Sadly this is exactly what I was thinking >_<
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
crazedrat
Profile Joined July 2015
272 Posts
January 29 2016 17:02 GMT
#91
I prefer the maps to stay the same, we need time to explore map balance in greater detail.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 29 2016 17:05 GMT
#92
On January 30 2016 02:02 crazedrat wrote:
I prefer the maps to stay the same, we need time to explore map balance in greater detail.


Yes... on actually playable maps. Not when only 3 are playable.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
LittleFinger07
Profile Joined August 2015
1 Post
January 29 2016 17:09 GMT
#93
Its friday guys, where is the patch?^^
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 17:38:47
January 29 2016 17:38 GMT
#94
David Kim's Daily Calendar:

8am - Discuss with senior management about the awesome job he is doing; and mitigate any concerns about a dwindling community
9am - Discuss with developers the current imbalance with the game
10am - Discuss with other developers the discussion he just had about the imbalance
11am - Write-up the discussion of the discussion he just had with his team
12pm - 2pm - Lunch; where he secretly plays League of Legends
3pm - Summarize the discussions he had with the developers and post it on the community forum
4pm - Contemplate a potential patch, but realizes he needs a lot more meetings before he can actually do anything
5pm - Set all his meetings for the current day as "recurring".
How much better to get wisdom than gold; to get insight rather than silver!
StarcraftSteve
Profile Joined January 2016
8 Posts
January 29 2016 17:48 GMT
#95
Extremely disappointing that blizzard has basically stopped supporting Starcraft and just posts excuses every week to give hope
Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 18:06:26
January 29 2016 18:05 GMT
#96
So much text just to tell us that they are doing nothing?

In this situation if they think that I will buy any DLC with some missions they must be delusional. I only play multi anyway, and it seems they no longer care about it.

There are no boundaries, that's the final conclusion.
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
January 29 2016 18:37 GMT
#97
I think TvP will be greatly improved now. P will have to open something that isn't 4Adept/Prism/4Adept warp in. There will be a whole new period of new builds and plays that aren't just the Adept ladder.
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
BiiG-Fr
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada109 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 18:53:04
January 29 2016 18:40 GMT
#98
And now, I remember the time, when blizzard was telling us that they will probably add a lot of cool stuff and new units after LOTV release....
If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him.
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
January 29 2016 18:43 GMT
#99
It never ceases to amaze me how salty you people are about absolutely everything.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 29 2016 18:46 GMT
#100
Maps should be left to the community and tournaments IMO. Blizzard is so slow and inefficient it's embarrassing.
rip passion
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
January 29 2016 18:53 GMT
#101
wow they wrote all that just to tell us nothing will happen soon?? You so troll, Blizzard.

It's like their priority right now is making those mission packs since they can extract more money from the userbase, but bug fixes? fuck that, right?

I don't want to make the comparison, but when you look at Riot which does things proactively it's completely night and day.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 29 2016 19:11 GMT
#102
No new maps after the community has been so vocally against the current pool is a complete joke. I seriously can't believe they'd think that leaving the current map pool is okay.

Does anyone like Central Protocol? Anyone?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 29 2016 19:31 GMT
#103
IMO the worst map in the pool is Prion. Possibly it could be better if the 3rd/4th bases were made blue and the gold base was the one on the high ground near the 3rd. At least that one is easier to assault than defend. The game is balanced around blue bases and when you start giving up golds like that Zerg can just produce way too much.
Wat
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 29 2016 19:40 GMT
#104
I also really liked how Dash & Terminal played out in LotV. I actually preferred that map in LotV than I did in HotS.
Wat
JWD[9]
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
364 Posts
January 29 2016 21:32 GMT
#105
No new maps might just be a ruse to deflect some of the hate they deserve for delaying promised features, 2 weeks in they probably will "listen" to the community and throw the bone, appearantly fighting for it makes the bone more tasty.
Mightygear
Profile Joined November 2015
81 Posts
January 29 2016 21:38 GMT
#106
Blizzard slowly but surely becomes to the same careless PPL that RIOT Games mutated into.

1.Both do what they like and gief a * about what the Community badly want. (NEW MAPS )
2.Behaves like they can dictated how to play the Game. (Maps should be gimmicky - Riot does the same with removing Mechanics that doesn't fit what they want it to be ).
3. Extremely abuse the we need time to fix X or Y - Balance take it's time that's something everyone may agree on - BUT not fixing Ladder Issues ASAP is just frustration for everyone involded into.
Questions ? Hook me up on Twitter MightyGear@TLForum - @SandIsSoTasty
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
January 29 2016 21:39 GMT
#107
Comments are negative as ever
I just watch some matches during the weekdays and play a few coop during weekends so I guess map and other stuff don;t really influence me as much
A bit funny to see so many people here are complaining every single words David Kim said
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 29 2016 21:48 GMT
#108
On January 30 2016 06:39 Yiome wrote:
Comments are negative as ever
I just watch some matches during the weekdays and play a few coop during weekends so I guess map and other stuff don;t really influence me as much
A bit funny to see so many people here are complaining every single words David Kim said

I don't really play either, last thing I did was campaign. Just understand that other people play the game a lot, and really want things to improve. I want things to improve, and I don't even play, if they did improve enough I might. I'm not holding my breath however.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
January 29 2016 21:50 GMT
#109
On January 29 2016 20:41 wtfishedoing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:
We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.


they can't be fucking serious



That's so bad.. I have no words. I'm actually pissed. Wtf are they thinking? This should have been in at release...

"its done when its ready" philosophy became false years ago
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
January 29 2016 22:31 GMT
#110
Dkim usually wrote next issues on reddit if current community feedback doesn't deliver much but now he even didn't.....
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 23:45:53
January 29 2016 23:44 GMT
#111
On January 30 2016 06:38 Mightygear wrote:
Blizzard slowly but surely becomes to the same careless PPL that RIOT Games mutated into.

1.Both do what they like and gief a * about what the Community badly want. (NEW MAPS )
2.Behaves like they can dictated how to play the Game. (Maps should be gimmicky - Riot does the same with removing Mechanics that doesn't fit what they want it to be ).
3. Extremely abuse the we need time to fix X or Y - Balance take it's time that's something everyone may agree on - BUT not fixing Ladder Issues ASAP is just frustration for everyone involded into.


Just want to respond that they can dictate how the game should play. It's actually great if a good designer does so, because that is what game design is to begin with. David Kim and his team just have no vision and no philosophy which makes them bad designers. Given that they still tried to redesign the game without that skill they aren't even good maintainance. Without the massive Blizzard finance and the solid WoL foundation the game would be just another grey goo or act of aggression.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 30 2016 01:14 GMT
#112
Update to the Community Feedback Update, regarding maps

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/20419654373
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 30 2016 01:17 GMT
#113
Appearently they fucked up with this patch.


"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 30 2016 02:15 GMT
#114
Appearently they didn't. They talk about time in Blizzard time in stead of actual. I'm confused.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
January 30 2016 06:24 GMT
#115
On January 29 2016 19:56 Musicus wrote:
Back-End

We’re working on a variety of improvements under the covers, including further protections against hacking, various performance optimizations, improvements to how our patch deployments work, and more.


Finally. The performance optimizations should also help to get better framerates with lesser CPUs.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
January 31 2016 11:42 GMT
#116
Blizzard are so good in PR talk.

So sad they're so terrible at actually doing any kind of work.
Seriously DK looks like a student in social sciences telling his teacher he'll be late finishing his paper.
ProtossMasterRace
Profile Joined January 2016
57 Posts
January 31 2016 12:12 GMT
#117
On January 30 2016 10:17 Mozdk wrote:
Appearently they fucked up with this patch.

https://twitter.com/StateSC2/status/693234794474254337


So they changed PO cost but didn't change it's duration?

I guess I'll just have to auto leave when I get matched against zergs now.
MasterCynical
Profile Joined September 2012
505 Posts
January 31 2016 12:30 GMT
#118
I like how they're always working on "protections against hacking" but in the end you can literally google sc2 hacks and the first page will lead you to forums that contain free hacks that work any day of the year.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
January 31 2016 22:09 GMT
#119
On January 31 2016 21:30 MasterCynical wrote:
I like how they're always working on "protections against hacking" but in the end you can literally google sc2 hacks and the first page will lead you to forums that contain free hacks that work any day of the year.

how do you know that they work?
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