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Balance Update Today
The Balance Update is going out today and we’ve been discussing many potential issues and topics internally and externally, but now is the time to refocus and analyze the effects of today’s patch changes and realign our immediate goals.
Beginning today, we’re focusing on the specific issues and changes that will come from the balance update. We’re getting a lot of mixed feedback based on initial impressions. One example is TvP at the pro level in KR, where we’re getting feedback ranging from “Protoss has completely no chance vs. Terran and will lose every single game,” to “these changes were way too minor that there’s no impact whatsoever in the matchup,” with lots more between those two extremes.
What this shows is that it takes time for even the very best players in the world to know for certain the impact of any changes to the game. So let’s keep an open mind, play a lot of games, explore exactly what changed, and discuss what the best moves will be going forward.
Wait Time Issue at the Top of the Ladder
There was an issue where the highest skill level players were getting a higher frequency of uneven matches, and we are hoping to put out a solution very soon to increase match quality by giving these players more time to find ideal opponents in the queue. This will be addressed with the season roll on February 1.
League Boundary Distribution Update
We made some minor adjustments to Bronze and Silver leagues to maintain our previous percentages. These adjustments are also planned to be addressed with the season roll on February 1.
Leave League Bug
This turned out to not to be a universal issue, but we have confirmed that under certain circumstances leaving league can produce unintended matchmaking behavior. We have already mitigated various edge cases that led to this in recent hotfixes, and we expect further improvements moving forward.
No New Maps for Season 1
As we discussed at the end of last year, we aren’t planning to add new maps for Season 1. We wanted to review our reasoning behind this again, because we are seeing some discussion regarding this topic.
- The time between the launch of Legacy of the Void and the start of Season 1 has been quite short, so it’ll be better for players not to have to swap out to completely new maps already.
- Balance tuning wise, we have been looking into specific issues brought up such as Reapers in TvZ on Orbital, but haven’t seen a need yet to do a specific tuning change on a specific map. This is where we should definitely focus our efforts, and if there are specific parts of a map that need to be addressed, we want to work on that. We can make balance updates to maps any time if they are needed, so please keep this in mind when we discuss specific map issues.
- Diversity wise, the current maps definitely provide a variety of unique map elements, and it’s safe to say that the current maps haven’t been fully figured out.
We believe these are solid reasons to keep the current map pool for Season 1. However, because these maps will be on rotation a bit longer than normal, we should definitely discuss the potential of rotating a higher number of maps out for Season 2. Let’s get discussions going regarding this question this week.
Online Features
We wanted to provide an update on ongoing work in various parts of the game:
Ladder Improvements
The ladder changes we presented at BlizzCon continue to evolve. We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.
Co-op Mode
We are excited that so many players are enjoying co-op mode, and we are actively exploring ways to make the experience more varied and more open-ended. We look forward to providing an update on our progress in the months ahead.
As discussed at BlizzCon, we also plan to continue releasing new maps and new commanders over the course of the year.
Skins and Voice Packs
As we shared in the "Future of StarCraft II" panel at BlizzCon, we plan to release skins and voice packs after the Nova mission packs. A new achievement-based skin will be rolling out sooner, but we’re working on a broad selection of skin and voice pack content for later in the year, along with changes in the engine and UI to accommodate this new content.
Tournaments
Archon and team tournaments are still in our plans, but we won’t begin work on these until after the ladder improvements are complete.
We are also actively considering various suggestions from the community, such as no time limit for the tournament finals, having different trophies per season, or having even more types of tournament modes. We don’t have specific plans or timelines around these yet, but we will continue discussing and exploring these ideas.
Back-End
We’re working on a variety of improvements under the covers, including further protections against hacking, various performance optimizations, improvements to how our patch deployments work, and more.
That’s just a sample of the things that we’re actively working on, and there’s a lot of other work in motion and in our backlog. Please keep in mind that after we begin implementing a change, we still need time for iteration, polish, localization, and quality assurance before new features and content are ready to be deployed. We’re grateful for your support and your patience as we continue to evolve StarCraft II!
Source
Poll: Opinion on the update on the S1 map pooL?Exchange Central and Lerilak for the GSL maps and remove the gold bases on Prion Terraces. (186) 59% We need at least 4 new maps! (94) 30% I'm happy. Do not change the map pool for S1. (19) 6% Neutral! (17) 5% 316 total votes Your vote: Opinion on the update on the S1 map pooL? (Vote): I'm happy. Do not change the map pool for S1.
(Vote): Neutral!
(Vote): We need at least 4 new maps!
(Vote): Exchange Central and Lerilak for the GSL maps and remove the gold bases on Prion Terraces.
Poll: Opinion on the online features?Disappointed. Expected the features a lot earlier. (166) 64% Happy with the update, good things take time. (64) 25% Neutral. (28) 11% 258 total votes Your vote: Opinion on the online features? (Vote): Happy with the update, good things take time.
(Vote): Neutral.
(Vote): Disappointed. Expected the features a lot earlier.
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We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year.
they can't be fucking serious
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Everything sounds good but no new maps really does suck. Atleast give us the GSL map pool.
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We can make balance updates to maps any time if they are needed, so please keep this in mind when we discuss specific map issues.
Then please at least remove the gold base at the third on prion terraces asap, the one on the 4th too if possible, but I guess then it's no langer "creative" enough.
The time between the launch of Legacy of the Void and the start of Season 1 has been quite short, so it’ll be better for players not to have to swap out to completely new maps already
A lot of the maps have been in since the beta though, so at least remove two of them and put in the GSL maps!
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On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year. they can't be fucking serious
Yeah this is disappointing to say the least. While all the community figures who were at these summits said that the blizzard team working on sc2 is quite large and commited, it really doesn't show at all...
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Disappointing, i am sorry.
Many things are taking much to long. In the end this will mean, the ladder revamp will come 1 year after release.
Dear god, what a slow way to start LotV. The reasoning behind not changing the map pool is lame and an excuse, everyone knows it, typical DK answer. :D
I know TL is harsh and salty very often, but this slowmo progress isn´t helping either.
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People dont play half the maps in the pool and yet we are keeping it!?!
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and we thought blizzard had learned a thing or two by now....
1 year post-release for the ladder revamp? lol
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On January 29 2016 20:16 IceBerrY wrote:
I know TL is harsh and salty very often,
TL would also be hyped if they did something right or suprise us with a ladder revamp in a resonable amount of time or just any implementation of what they promised us years ago.
It seems only one way harsh (the salty way) because blizz keeps fucking up.
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Honestly just can't bring myself to play sc2 anymore, I want there to be something positive to say about it but there just isn't. Blizzard is slow af.
No new maps is just a joke aswel.
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a year to revamp the ladder
no new maps
lol
uninstall.exe
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It's just not smart from Blizzard imo. They need to give us some candy every now and then. It's been a while since release, and we didn't get anything so far. Now we know that most of the stuff won't be there until the end of the year, so the least they could do, is give us some new maps.
GSL already has two of them and nobody would complain, if they just implemented those into the ladder for season 1.
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how big and dedicated is their team again?
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On January 29 2016 20:27 Aocowns wrote:
how big and dedicated is their team again?
everyones dedicated on coop missions and writing huge wall of texts
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lol
User was warned for this post
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On January 29 2016 20:29 Sif_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:27 Aocowns wrote:
how big and dedicated is their team again? everyones dedicated on coop missions and writing huge wall of texts
I do actually believe that the team is big, but I don't think the multiplayer team is. I'm sure most of the work hours go into the nova DLC.
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not even a screenshot or proof of concept of skin/voice shop???
edit, also, this is bullshit timing, because i know people will be like "oh man the skins didn't help the game at all, what a surprise!" when they eventually drop and the game is 100% dead... you need to release a skin shop when people have faith in your product, ie 2010-2012 when SC2 was the hot game in esports... blizzard releasing it 2 years from now is a COMPLETE joke, and honestly they would probably make a lot more money releasing it for broodwar instead of sc2.. i just hope this doesnt dissuade more competent developers from using skins/ui changes/voice packs to fund esports rts.
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No ladder revamp and the same maps means I won't be playing in the next season...
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On January 29 2016 20:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year. they can't be fucking serious Yeah this is disappointing to say the least. While all the community figures who were at these summits said that the blizzard team working on sc2 is quite large and commited, it really doesn't show at all...
They probably have a large and commited team making coffee for their long and commited pauses
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Nothing about gameplay besides the same comment about the same patch that has been discussed 5 times already?
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On January 29 2016 20:36 Big J wrote:
Nothing about gameplay besides the same comment about the same patch that has been discussed 5 times already?
I'm convinced the entire sc2 team minus one or two people is working on the nova DLC campaign since that's the only thing that will actually make them money going forward
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On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year. they can't be fucking serious
That's so bad.. I have no words. I'm actually pissed. Wtf are they thinking? This should have been in at release...
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On January 29 2016 20:34 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year. they can't be fucking serious Yeah this is disappointing to say the least. While all the community figures who were at these summits said that the blizzard team working on sc2 is quite large and commited, it really doesn't show at all... They probably have a large and commited team making coffee for their long and commited pauses
It is really hard to stay positive about blizzard's work. Or even neutral.
Not sure WHY there is so little actual progress, but in the end that's not what we should (have to) care about tbh.
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The ladder thing is acceptable, but the team tournaments and archon tournaments don't require a lot of work to fix, so they should be implemented at least to soften the wait time. New maps etc should be mandatory when creating a new season.
Seriously, SC2 team. You need to look at what the diablo team does. They actively make the new seasons fun.
They change sets, add sets, insert new features, add small new areas and mob types. It keeps the game fresh cause there's always something new every season.
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On January 29 2016 20:41 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:36 Big J wrote:
Nothing about gameplay besides the same comment about the same patch that has been discussed 5 times already? I'm convinced the entire sc2 team minus one or two people is working on the nova DLC campaign since that's the only thing that will actually make them money going forward
minus one or two is actually zero or negative one guy working on the rest
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Heroes team promised to borrow them one developer in summer.
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I just don't understand how they can expect people to keep playing every season when they add nothing new to the table other than very minor balance changes. Heroes of the storm gets a new hero every 3 weeks, new maps, constant balance changes.
These shitty maps are really all they could come up with for LOTV? They should have someone on their team making 4 or 5 new maps for every season. Skins should be coming regularly, not all at once at a to-be-determined-far-in-the-future date.
The new ladder system should have been in at release, they had nearly three years between HOTS launch and LOTV launch to come up with a new ladder system.
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I have a dream... That one day, David Kim will be moved from StarCraft once and for all, he and all of his team...
One day.
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Yo guys lets get some data and see if 90% of he community hates this map pool :D!!!
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blizz sell sc2 to valve please
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We once had a poll for Macro mechanics, they replied they saw it but still they won't change their thought about it.
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No clue what blizzard is thinking or even doing these days tbh
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No new maps. DK pls?!
Seriously
What the fuck
So, I guess, TLDR:
- Ladder is a mess. May update in 6 months.
- Ladder is bugged. May update in 12 months.
- Ladder map pool is fine according to us. U have arguments against it? lol no we have data we're never gonna show. No change.
BUT GUYS WE ARE DOING THINGS UNDER THE COVERS RLY RLY!
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They said absolutely nothing in this "update". All they said was: "We are still working on it. Things will happen. We can not tell you what and we can not tell you when but something is going to happen some day in the future!".
Wow. Good job blizzard.
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Can we start a poll on who wants new maps to quantify our pissed offness...atleast it will make us feel better even if blizz doesnt care
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On January 29 2016 21:11 WhaleOFaTALE1 wrote:
Can we start a poll on who wants new maps to quantify our pissed offness...atleast it will make us feel better even if blizz doesnt care
Scroll up a bit for your post 
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On January 29 2016 21:13 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:11 WhaleOFaTALE1 wrote:
Can we start a poll on who wants new maps to quantify our pissed offness...atleast it will make us feel better even if blizz doesnt care Scroll up a bit for your post
BUT i dont have twitter and still want to partcipate in the hate!
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I just hope they can let us know the schedule for new skin voice packs coop missions etc.
everything is just later this year or on the way.
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TL needs a pitchfork smiley, bring me DK's head...
Nah, but I am wondering what they were doing over the last months and if they play sc2 as much as the average player, because it feels like an eternity since these maps are in rotation.
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On January 29 2016 21:14 WhaleOFaTALE1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:13 SC2Toastie wrote:On January 29 2016 21:11 WhaleOFaTALE1 wrote:
Can we start a poll on who wants new maps to quantify our pissed offness...atleast it will make us feel better even if blizz doesnt care Scroll up a bit for your post BUT i dont have twitter and still want to partcipate in the hate!
If you cannot even commit to a twitter for this you cannot be a real hater.
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On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year. they can't be fucking serious
Same reaction literally.
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On January 29 2016 21:17 JWD[9] wrote:
TL needs a pitchfork smiley, bring me DK's head...
Nah, but I am wondering what they were doing over the last months and if they play sc2 as much as the average player, because it feels like an eternity since these maps are in rotation.
personally i dont get the david kim hate, he seemed decent enough when i met him, it's corporate blizz that is forcing them to not make any drastic changes i'm betting..
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This is pathetic. I mean, common, I kinda got motivated to start laddering again with the new balance patch, but now same map pool for another 2-3 months? still not sure if I regret buying this expansion or not...
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Can we change the title to "Not an update" cus there's nothing in here we didn't already know/
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I included two polls in the OP. I hope they are okay and not too biased. If they are, feel free to remove them mods.
I included a possible last minute change in the map pool question, that I've seen floating around.
Poll: Opinion on the online features?Disappointed. Expected the features a lot earlier. (166) 64% Happy with the update, good things take time. (64) 25% Neutral. (28) 11% 258 total votes Your vote: Opinion on the online features? (Vote): Happy with the update, good things take time.
(Vote): Neutral.
(Vote): Disappointed. Expected the features a lot earlier.
Poll: Opinion on the update on the S1 map pooL?Exchange Central and Lerilak for the GSL maps and remove the gold bases on Prion Terraces. (186) 59% We need at least 4 new maps! (94) 30% I'm happy. Do not change the map pool for S1. (19) 6% Neutral! (17) 5% 316 total votes Your vote: Opinion on the update on the S1 map pooL? (Vote): I'm happy. Do not change the map pool for S1.
(Vote): Neutral!
(Vote): We need at least 4 new maps!
(Vote): Exchange Central and Lerilak for the GSL maps and remove the gold bases on Prion Terraces.
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On January 29 2016 21:23 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:17 JWD[9] wrote:
TL needs a pitchfork smiley, bring me DK's head...
Nah, but I am wondering what they were doing over the last months and if they play sc2 as much as the average player, because it feels like an eternity since these maps are in rotation. personally i dont get the david kim hate, he seemed decent enough when i met him, it's corporate blizz that is forcing them to not make any drastic changes i'm betting..
People dont like to hate on a faceless entity. They enjoy focusing their hate on a person. DK is their sacrificial goat. They put him up to take the blame for everybody. He is the blizzard version of jesus basically. Just wait, 2000 years from now he will have his own religion and people will tell about the sacrifices he made and all the bad things he had to endure for the sake of others.
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blizzard's community team is lazy ass shit. There are tons of people willing to prepare great maps and they don't check with them.
If you can't manage to do it, there are hundreds of people who would want to do something for their beloved game.
And now, the company is saying such thing as
let’s keep an open mind, play a lot of games, explore exactly what changed, and discuss what the best moves will be going forward.
In translation = we screwed the game, we don't know what is going on, but we'll change a thing or two. After you whine again and again we'll screw you over again and fuck it up continuously. Stay with the game, play tons of games and we'll do shit about the real issues. Just play more games.
How could anybody play something if it always makes him sad, upset and makes him rage all the time?
It's not a game that provides us great emotions and passion, that makes us want to improve and compete. It's a game that fucks us over and makes us feel dumb.
to be honest - Blizzard's approach to RTS and their knowledge about what they are doing is CRAP
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no new maps?!? ok another season without me playing
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This is like the revolver, rifle and pistol upgrade in CSGO.
Let's hope Blizzard proves as smart as ValvE in realising their huge mistake.
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Seriously, the multiplayer team is either non existent or there are some very serious problems there. 5 guys could make an entire new game in the time it takes this team to make a balance test map or some maps.
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On January 29 2016 21:39 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Seriously, the multiplayer team is either non existent or there are some very serious problems there. 5 guys could make an entire new game in the time it takes this team to make a balance test map or some maps.
Welcome to the new internship program in Blizzard. It is called StarCraft2.
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No new maps? Are you serious? Ughhhhh..
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On January 29 2016 21:43 The_Templar wrote:
No new maps? Are you serious? Ughhhhh..
I assumed that CP and Prion would be removed no matter what. I mean it is so obvious to everyone that those shouldn't be played.
As for Ulrena, people seems to like it somewhat, even though it's a free win PvT and basicly a free win PvZ.
I personally find Lerilak impossible to play PvZ on, but some seem to be able to defend. So I would be okay with leaving this in pool. I could just veto it and keep some of the new maps.
But no? Fucking no new maps?
I've never been so disgusted with Blizzard. And I love Blizzard. But this is wrong. And it's not even up for debate. It's clearly wrong!
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Co-op still lacks end game content. Very disappointing, for a modern surrounded by so much hype in 2015.
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Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.
Luckily, I still have not bought LotV.
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Maybe after they start selling DLC, they will find it in their hearts and bank accounts to start some real support for SC2 multiplayer.
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On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year. they can't be fucking serious
The time scale on the releases of these things are laughable. Game is in a horrendous spot currently and they're just doing whatever. This is why Blizzard games will never be as popular as other games they are competing against in the current era of games. Sad, but well, if they don't give a fuq guess u can't really do much.
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On January 29 2016 21:56 purakushi wrote:
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.
Luckily, I still have not bought LotV.
that game is bad! I never tried it!
well ok then...
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No new maps, wow. That is quite the letdown.
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Take the GSL maps and keep prion as it is.
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This community feedback seems kinda useless. Nothing new to be excited over 
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I literally hope, NO ONE will buy this shit nova pack. Maybe hitting their wallet will be something they understand.
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On January 29 2016 22:07 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:56 purakushi wrote:
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.
Luckily, I still have not bought LotV. that game is bad! I never tried it! well ok then...
Trained eyes can see a lot of things!
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why do they even advance to the next season? if EVERYTHING stays the same (no revamp, no new maps), they just can longer the actual season for about 2-3 months...
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On January 29 2016 22:33 Malgo wrote:
why do they even advance to the next season? if EVERYTHING stays the same (no revamp, no new maps), they just can longer the actual season for about 2-3 months...
Because it was scheduled, and they were probably planning better things and new maps. But someone fucked up violently.
That's at least my only guess.
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On January 29 2016 22:36 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 22:33 Malgo wrote:
why do they even advance to the next season? if EVERYTHING stays the same (no revamp, no new maps), they just can longer the actual season for about 2-3 months... Because it was scheduled, and they were probably planning better things and new maps. But someone fucked up violently. That's at least my only guess.
Those kind of fuckups seems to be a bit regular.
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haha, yeah knowing that would be scary
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^wow it really sux not having new ladder maps T.T, the maps are getting old and lerirak central protocol, prion .... are so bad
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5+ months the same maps, please blizzard change some maps....
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On January 29 2016 22:50 Killmouse wrote:
^wow it really sux not having new ladder maps T.T, the maps are getting old and lerirak central protocol, prion .... are so bad
Yes, and especially the maps that were already on ladder in beta are boring the shit outta me atm.
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I don't know about better but they're certainly going to be around longer than I expected
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Well lets assume the maps don't suck donkeyballs. Even then i would to change them once a while.... Why keep them for so long :/
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On January 29 2016 10:14 Psione wrote:
There is a possibility that this upcoming season is shorter than a typical season. .
From the map contest thread, I sincerely hope this upcoming season is shorter and we get some new maps. The bnet post about the maps said that the contest winners would be integrated in the season, but then they came out and said it would be season 2.
I guess they are hard at work with DLC.
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That's what I've been thinking about since they said that. What horrors did they have in mind when they released these maps?
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On January 29 2016 20:24 91matt wrote:
Honestly just can't bring myself to play sc2 anymore, I want there to be something positive to say about it but there just isn't. Blizzard is slow af.
No new maps is just a joke as well.
Have to agree... with all the great maps the community is producing, there's no reason why they shouldn't take a little time to throw some new ones in the pool.
I mean I get it, Acti-Blizz is a large company... and as someone who works in a large orginization myself, I understand that even the smallest of changes can take a very long time to implement...
But good god, prioritize the support of your products, especially the new ones!
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I m quite disappointed. I dont find lotv very fun to play as is but that d ve something i could live with if there were better maps. Not only are they utter garbage but they re gonna stay!
So i played 2v2 and 3v3 but the maps there are even worse... i really hope they ll do something soon or i will stop permanently
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On January 29 2016 22:28 ProMeTheus112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 22:07 Gwavajuice wrote:On January 29 2016 21:56 purakushi wrote:
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.
Luckily, I still have not bought LotV. that game is bad! I never tried it! well ok then... Trained eyes can see a lot of things!
Just waiting for things that should have been included upon release. I am generally quite patient, but SC2 really has been a waiting game from the start. I am not delusional and think that LotV was going to make SC2 super popular, but at the very least, these things should have been there from its launch. While understandable, it is just frustrating that LotV was released way too soon in terms of development time.
While it will never be #1 again, SC2 has so much more potential, but lots of people are okay or even good with the status quo. I am hopeful that the game will improve to some level, but it is just sad to think about how many people (pros/players/spectators) will leave the game before these essential features are live.
pre-LotV: SoonTM
LotV release: Too SoonTM
post-LotV release: SoonTM
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No new ladder maps sounds fugly... I didnt expect any game changing updates anytime soon, but a new ladder pool :|
Pro gsl maps!
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Seriously losing faith in this game, this is embarrassing to say the least. Bug Fixing should be top priority above all else. And the maps are currently making ladder a tedious endeavor.
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On January 30 2016 00:08 purakushi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 22:28 ProMeTheus112 wrote:On January 29 2016 22:07 Gwavajuice wrote:On January 29 2016 21:56 purakushi wrote:
Blizzard, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (when I knew I should not have), but really, the LotV release was your last chance. Now, you are messing things up even more.
Luckily, I still have not bought LotV. that game is bad! I never tried it! well ok then... Trained eyes can see a lot of things! Just waiting for things that should have been included upon release. I am generally quite patient, but SC2 really has been a waiting game from the start. I am not delusional and think that LotV was going to make SC2 super popular, but at the very least, these things should have been there from its launch. While understandable, it is just frustrating that LotV was released way too soon in terms of development time. While it will never be #1 again, SC2 has so much more potential, but lots of people are okay or even good with the status quo. I am hopeful that the game will improve to some level, but it is just sad to think about how many people (pros/players/spectators) will leave the game before these essential features are live. pre-LotV: SoonTM LotV release: Too SoonTM post-LotV release: SoonTM
Pretty much how I feel as well.
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Co-op Mode
We are excited that so many players are enjoying co-op mode Sooo they didn't look at the bug report forum it seems. Many people have stopped playing co-op because of xp bugs.
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On January 30 2016 00:49 silverkeops wrote: Sooo they didn't look at the bug report forum it seems. Many people have stopped playing co-op because of xp bugs.
saying people are enjoying it doesn't mean they're unaware of bugs o_O it just means coop is fun and people want it expanded. doesn't mean they can't fix the bugs too
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I didn't bought lotv becouze of hots. Now i am happy.
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How do they know people are enjoying it? They haven't asked me. Have anyone been asked? 
Co-op is fun untill you realize there is nothing to do after level 15. Just grind.
Tbh most likely people who liked co-op on release have stopped playing it. It's boring with no end game.
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Is it seriously hard at all to put in new maps? Like what, it takes someone 2-3 days to upload it to the server? What the hell, throw the community a bone here
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On January 30 2016 00:34 CTBM wrote:
Seriously losing faith in this game, this is embarrassing to say the least. Bug Fixing should be top priority above all else. And the maps are currently making ladder a tedious endeavor.
You think it's not a top priority?
It's not easy to fix something like this.
You have to identify an issue, identify the source, get a solution, implement solution, verify solution. Almost all of these steps can take several days if not weeks. Especially if you were in the middle of implementing a new system altogether(which they are.)
On January 30 2016 01:18 Nazara wrote:How do they know people are enjoying it? They haven't asked me. Have anyone been asked? Co-op is fun untill you realize there is nothing to do after level 15. Just grind. Tbh most likely people who liked co-op on release have stopped playing it. It's boring with no end game.
Go post a thread, or a reddit thread, and find people agreeing with you. Blizzard seems to focus on topics that blow up/get a lot of people agreeing with them.
So far most threads have been about people enjoying Co-Op.
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On January 30 2016 01:21 Chaggi wrote:
Is it seriously hard at all to put in new maps? Like what, it takes someone 2-3 days to upload it to the server? What the hell, throw the community a bone here
I think it's just the play hard attitude. If they are convinced that they are right, they will decide to ride the storm in the hope that they will be proven right and the community wrong. Browder used to do this all the time.
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On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year. they can't be fucking serious
Sadly this is exactly what I was thinking >_<
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I prefer the maps to stay the same, we need time to explore map balance in greater detail.
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On January 30 2016 02:02 crazedrat wrote:
I prefer the maps to stay the same, we need time to explore map balance in greater detail.
Yes... on actually playable maps. Not when only 3 are playable.
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Its friday guys, where is the patch?^^
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David Kim's Daily Calendar:
8am - Discuss with senior management about the awesome job he is doing; and mitigate any concerns about a dwindling community
9am - Discuss with developers the current imbalance with the game
10am - Discuss with other developers the discussion he just had about the imbalance
11am - Write-up the discussion of the discussion he just had with his team
12pm - 2pm - Lunch; where he secretly plays League of Legends
3pm - Summarize the discussions he had with the developers and post it on the community forum
4pm - Contemplate a potential patch, but realizes he needs a lot more meetings before he can actually do anything
5pm - Set all his meetings for the current day as "recurring".
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Extremely disappointing that blizzard has basically stopped supporting Starcraft and just posts excuses every week to give hope
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So much text just to tell us that they are doing nothing?
In this situation if they think that I will buy any DLC with some missions they must be delusional. I only play multi anyway, and it seems they no longer care about it.
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I think TvP will be greatly improved now. P will have to open something that isn't 4Adept/Prism/4Adept warp in. There will be a whole new period of new builds and plays that aren't just the Adept ladder.
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And now, I remember the time, when blizzard was telling us that they will probably add a lot of cool stuff and new units after LOTV release....
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It never ceases to amaze me how salty you people are about absolutely everything.
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Maps should be left to the community and tournaments IMO. Blizzard is so slow and inefficient it's embarrassing.
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wow they wrote all that just to tell us nothing will happen soon?? You so troll, Blizzard.
It's like their priority right now is making those mission packs since they can extract more money from the userbase, but bug fixes? fuck that, right?
I don't want to make the comparison, but when you look at Riot which does things proactively it's completely night and day.
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No new maps after the community has been so vocally against the current pool is a complete joke. I seriously can't believe they'd think that leaving the current map pool is okay.
Does anyone like Central Protocol? Anyone?
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IMO the worst map in the pool is Prion. Possibly it could be better if the 3rd/4th bases were made blue and the gold base was the one on the high ground near the 3rd. At least that one is easier to assault than defend. The game is balanced around blue bases and when you start giving up golds like that Zerg can just produce way too much.
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I also really liked how Dash & Terminal played out in LotV. I actually preferred that map in LotV than I did in HotS.
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No new maps might just be a ruse to deflect some of the hate they deserve for delaying promised features, 2 weeks in they probably will "listen" to the community and throw the bone, appearantly fighting for it makes the bone more tasty.
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Blizzard slowly but surely becomes to the same careless PPL that RIOT Games mutated into.
1.Both do what they like and gief a * about what the Community badly want. (NEW MAPS )
2.Behaves like they can dictated how to play the Game. (Maps should be gimmicky - Riot does the same with removing Mechanics that doesn't fit what they want it to be ).
3. Extremely abuse the we need time to fix X or Y - Balance take it's time that's something everyone may agree on - BUT not fixing Ladder Issues ASAP is just frustration for everyone involded into.
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Comments are negative as ever
I just watch some matches during the weekdays and play a few coop during weekends so I guess map and other stuff don;t really influence me as much
A bit funny to see so many people here are complaining every single words David Kim said
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On January 30 2016 06:39 Yiome wrote:Comments are negative as ever I just watch some matches during the weekdays and play a few coop during weekends so I guess map and other stuff don;t really influence me as much A bit funny to see so many people here are complaining every single words David Kim said
I don't really play either, last thing I did was campaign. Just understand that other people play the game a lot, and really want things to improve. I want things to improve, and I don't even play, if they did improve enough I might. I'm not holding my breath however.
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On January 29 2016 20:41 wtfishedoing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:03 Noonius wrote:We are hoping to be able to upgrade the ladder early in the second half of the year. they can't be fucking serious That's so bad.. I have no words. I'm actually pissed. Wtf are they thinking? This should have been in at release...
"its done when its ready" philosophy became false years ago
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Dkim usually wrote next issues on reddit if current community feedback doesn't deliver much but now he even didn't.....
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On January 30 2016 06:38 Mightygear wrote:
Blizzard slowly but surely becomes to the same careless PPL that RIOT Games mutated into.
1.Both do what they like and gief a * about what the Community badly want. (NEW MAPS )
2.Behaves like they can dictated how to play the Game. (Maps should be gimmicky - Riot does the same with removing Mechanics that doesn't fit what they want it to be ).
3. Extremely abuse the we need time to fix X or Y - Balance take it's time that's something everyone may agree on - BUT not fixing Ladder Issues ASAP is just frustration for everyone involded into.
Just want to respond that they can dictate how the game should play. It's actually great if a good designer does so, because that is what game design is to begin with. David Kim and his team just have no vision and no philosophy which makes them bad designers. Given that they still tried to redesign the game without that skill they aren't even good maintainance. Without the massive Blizzard finance and the solid WoL foundation the game would be just another grey goo or act of aggression.
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Appearently they fucked up with this patch.
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Appearently they didn't. They talk about time in Blizzard time in stead of actual. I'm confused.
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On January 29 2016 19:56 Musicus wrote:
Back-End
We’re working on a variety of improvements under the covers, including further protections against hacking, various performance optimizations, improvements to how our patch deployments work, and more.
Finally. The performance optimizations should also help to get better framerates with lesser CPUs.
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Blizzard are so good in PR talk.
So sad they're so terrible at actually doing any kind of work.
Seriously DK looks like a student in social sciences telling his teacher he'll be late finishing his paper.
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So they changed PO cost but didn't change it's duration?
I guess I'll just have to auto leave when I get matched against zergs now.
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I like how they're always working on "protections against hacking" but in the end you can literally google sc2 hacks and the first page will lead you to forums that contain free hacks that work any day of the year.
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On January 31 2016 21:30 MasterCynical wrote:
I like how they're always working on "protections against hacking" but in the end you can literally google sc2 hacks and the first page will lead you to forums that contain free hacks that work any day of the year.
how do you know that they work?
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