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On December 15 2015 19:29 TBO wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2015 19:19 Swisslink wrote:
I don't know a single Individual Sport with regional qualifiers
What about Table Tennis World Cup: The current holder of the World Cup. The World Champion. The champion player or the strongest current player from each of the 6 continents (Africa, Asia, Europe, Latin America, North America and Oceania). -> not "regional qualifiers" by name but pretty much comes down to the same. 1 player from the host association. The top 8 players from the world ranking list. 2 wild card selections (wow invites - crazyness, imagine the outrage if there were invites to Blizzcon) seems like a pretty decent mix to me
Well, I don't like the wild card selections in such a small tournament size (16 players). But I would not mind if some foreigners would get to Blizzcon..
Because we don't have 6 continents in SC2 terms (but only 2. NA/Europe, the rest has to play in these scenes anyway), that'd basically mean 14 Koreans and 2 foreigners. I don't think anyone would complain about this.
Or an increased number of participants (32) to give some foreigners a chance to qualify for Blizzcon would do the trick as well, imo. But I don't think it's debatable that Korea deserves more than 8 spots.
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Mute City2363 Posts
On December 15 2015 19:41 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2015 19:29 TBO wrote:On December 15 2015 19:19 Swisslink wrote:
I don't know a single Individual Sport with regional qualifiers
What about Table Tennis World Cup: The current holder of the World Cup. The World Champion. The champion player or the strongest current player from each of the 6 continents (Africa, Asia, Europe, Latin America, North America and Oceania). -> not "regional qualifiers" by name but pretty much comes down to the same. 1 player from the host association. The top 8 players from the world ranking list. 2 wild card selections (wow invites - crazyness, imagine the outrage if there were invites to Blizzcon) seems like a pretty decent mix to me Well, I don't like the wild card selections in such a small tournament size (16 players). But I would not mind if some foreigners would get to Blizzcon.. Because we don't have 6 continents in SC2 terms (but only 2. NA/Europe, the rest has to play in these scenes anyway), that'd basically mean 14 Koreans and 2 foreigners. I don't think anyone would complain about this. Or an increased number of participants (32) to give some foreigners a chance to qualify for Blizzcon would do the trick as well, imo. But I don't think it's debatable that Korea deserves more than 8 spots.
It's probably debatable whether there's even a foreigner in the top 32 tbf
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On December 15 2015 14:42 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2015 14:16 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On December 15 2015 13:43 Plexa wrote:On December 15 2015 08:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
When can we even expect blizzard to release some news on this?
It is getting really annoying -.- I'd imagine when it's ready. Put it this way, assuming the announcement was ready to go and was leaked and received this kind of backlash perhaps Blizzard taking their time is a sign they take the community concerns very seriously. The problem is that they have 2 choices: 1. Go ahead with the changes, and get hammered for what's clearly a hugely flawed system 2. Ditch the proposed system and go for something new / carry on the 2013-2015 system. Either they look like they don't care about public opinion, or they essentially admit they're clueless as they didn't expect this mess of a system to create such a negative backlash. It's a lose-lose at the moment. I'd almost have more respect for them if they just backed their judgement and stuck to what's been reported Choice 3: say the leak was wrong and they never planned those changes, then continue with the old system.
This doesn't work if they're lying.
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On December 15 2015 22:00 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2015 14:42 Charoisaur wrote:On December 15 2015 14:16 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On December 15 2015 13:43 Plexa wrote:On December 15 2015 08:32 The_Red_Viper wrote:
When can we even expect blizzard to release some news on this?
It is getting really annoying -.- I'd imagine when it's ready. Put it this way, assuming the announcement was ready to go and was leaked and received this kind of backlash perhaps Blizzard taking their time is a sign they take the community concerns very seriously. The problem is that they have 2 choices: 1. Go ahead with the changes, and get hammered for what's clearly a hugely flawed system 2. Ditch the proposed system and go for something new / carry on the 2013-2015 system. Either they look like they don't care about public opinion, or they essentially admit they're clueless as they didn't expect this mess of a system to create such a negative backlash. It's a lose-lose at the moment. I'd almost have more respect for them if they just backed their judgement and stuck to what's been reported Choice 3: say the leak was wrong and they never planned those changes, then continue with the old system. This doesn't work if they're lying.
It is not lying if no one knows the truth 
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On December 15 2015 20:17 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2015 19:41 Swisslink wrote:On December 15 2015 19:29 TBO wrote:On December 15 2015 19:19 Swisslink wrote:
I don't know a single Individual Sport with regional qualifiers
What about Table Tennis World Cup: The current holder of the World Cup. The World Champion. The champion player or the strongest current player from each of the 6 continents (Africa, Asia, Europe, Latin America, North America and Oceania). -> not "regional qualifiers" by name but pretty much comes down to the same. 1 player from the host association. The top 8 players from the world ranking list. 2 wild card selections (wow invites - crazyness, imagine the outrage if there were invites to Blizzcon) seems like a pretty decent mix to me Well, I don't like the wild card selections in such a small tournament size (16 players). But I would not mind if some foreigners would get to Blizzcon.. Because we don't have 6 continents in SC2 terms (but only 2. NA/Europe, the rest has to play in these scenes anyway), that'd basically mean 14 Koreans and 2 foreigners. I don't think anyone would complain about this. Or an increased number of participants (32) to give some foreigners a chance to qualify for Blizzcon would do the trick as well, imo. But I don't think it's debatable that Korea deserves more than 8 spots. It's probably debatable whether there's even a foreigner in the top 32 tbf
Debatable, but it would be a cool thing. Snute, Serral, Showtime ... if there is a system with "some" preferential points for foreigners (but not full region lock as suggested), they would get to the TOP 32 ... and now, in LotV, the games are faster, so they could get more games into the tournament ...
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Not that this counts for much: please don't! I only follow foreign sc2 events (IEM/Dreamhack/HSC) for the interplay of koreans and foreigners. Separate but equal does not work.
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We must believe in the almighty Apollo!!!!
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Good things my ass! WE ARE DOOMED!
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I am curious what his definition of "very soon" is exactly :D
ETA: in the next 2 weeks
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I know Apollo only means good and I love the guy, but I seriously hate tweets like this.
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On December 16 2015 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
We must believe in the almighty Apollo!!!!
Apollo is a super nice guy ;he works very hard and his casting really adds to my viewing experience; for that i am grateful. However, Apollo also has a vested interest in painting everything in as positive a light as possible.
Whatever changes Blizz makes it'll involve spending a lot less cash and resources than they did in 2011 and 2012... and probably a lot less cash and resources than in 2015.
I'll probably enjoy watching SC2 in 2016, however, i'm under no illusions that we are seeing some giant improvement in the competitive leagues and organizations behind the scenes.
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On December 16 2015 05:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2015 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
We must believe in the almighty Apollo!!!! Apollo is a super nice guy ;he works very hard and his casting really adds to my viewing experience; for that i am grateful. However, Apollo also has a vested interest in painting everything in as positive a light as possible. Whatever changes Blizz makes it'll involve spending a lot less cash and resources than they did in 2011 and 2012... and probably a lot less cash and resources than in 2015. I'll probably enjoy watching SC2 in 2016, however, i'm under no illusions that we are seeing some giant improvement in the competitive leagues and organizations behind the scenes.
Hm yeah that's obviously true as well. I like apollo like the next guy, but it's clear that he goes the day9 route at this point (which makes sense for him!)
So yeah i wouldn't take his word for it tbh.
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On December 16 2015 04:51 SNSeigifried wrote:
We must believe in the almighty Apollo!!!!
What people that are doom and gloom dislike the most. People telling them they know everything will be okay without giving an explanation. GJ Apollo ! XD
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BLASPHEMY! DO NOT FOLLOW THE FALSE GOD! THERE IS ONLY CHOYA! CHOYA IS THE WAY. CHOYA IS LOVE. CHOYA IS LIFE
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Apollo works for ESL right? If the rumor is that ESL doesn't want to do the WCS league maybe this is a good sign that that might not be completely true?
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Am I the only one that thinks 2016 will be a BIG year with lots of money being invested in sc2? It's the final installment, they probably want to turn it into a big esport again.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
almighty Apollo lost to Semmler in a SC2 match, never forget
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We should make good note of who said it will be good and then never trust those people again if it turns out to be along the lines outlined in the OP
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On December 16 2015 06:49 opisska wrote:
We should make good note of who said it will be good and then never trust those people again if it turns out to be along the lines outlined in the OP
CatZ
TLO
Apollo
Missing anyone?
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On December 12 2015 15:07 nanaoei wrote:
(...) the earliest sc2 tournaments happened to be mostly foreigner-based. MLG's etc. those were exciting even in the case of there being one player named ActionJesus who only had 1 strategy involving 6-pool(...)
1 strategy macro
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