EPTFeel free to use this thread to ask any simple questions you might have about the mission, or for tips/help/advice on completing the mission.
[TLCH] Mission 8: Forbidden Weapon
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Feel free to use this thread to ask any simple questions you might have about the mission, or for tips/help/advice on completing the mission. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
I ain't even mad that Fenix came back like this. Because he didn't really come back, it's just his conscious in a dragoon shell that might be corrupted. Best way for them to have done this. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13988 Posts
On November 10 2015 20:25 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler [plot] + I ain't even mad that Fenix came back like this. Because he didn't really come back, it's just his conscious in a dragoon shell that might be corrupted. Best way for them to have done this. I agree, seems a little unneeded but this was the best way to go about it | ||
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
I think they wanted to put afamiliar face to purifiers,to huminize them so we would feel sympath instead of just taking them as collosus or sentries. using fenix and having him - maybe the most badass guy in the series- struggle about what and who he is really did the trick. | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
 stalkers/immo/centurions and lots of sentries are the way to go imho, not sure if expanding pays off or not, i expanded rather late also make sure you have enough warpgates (i went up to 6) and use chrono overcharge on robo to get a good number of immos | ||
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AkiZenko
Canada14 Posts
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1693 Posts
On November 12 2015 07:03 AkiZenko wrote: Has anyone been able to do the mastery achievement (Unrestricted Access) for this mission yet? I have no clue how to finish this mission under 11 minutes! The closest I got was a little over 15 minutes. need help on this too | ||
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Biolunar
Germany224 Posts
You need to use the automatic assimilator, call down pylon and that time slowdown thing - Build an assimilator ASAP, rush to DT tech. - When you have 2 or 3 DTs, run with them to the exit. You do not need to kill anything. You have time to get some of those minerals and gas pickups. Avoid cannons obviously. - Build 8 Gates at home, save resources otherwise. You can get a forge with weapon upgrade if you want. - There is a point when you cannot get any further with the DTs (there are 3 cannons and a collossi guarding the way). Use your time stasis on the 3 cannons so they don’t detect you anymore. - Now HURRY, get up the hill and hide in the spot where the solarite is before the warpprisms deploy the cannons. - Use the call down pylon from the Spear of Adun to get a warp in spot. Warp in only Stalkers. Use first 8 Stalkers to kill the three cannons in front of your warp in place. - You need at least 16 Stalkers to go any further. There are many enemies in front of you, Use godlike blink micro to kill the topmost ones, ignore bottom ones. Kill the Pylon powering the top shield, blink down into the last chamber and kill the two other pylons (ignore all enemies, you should have enough Stalkers to suicide) I managed to beat it in 10:03min with this strat. HINT: Every blink gives you extra shields, so blink very often | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1693 Posts
On November 13 2015 03:28 Biolunar wrote: Okay here is how you do the 11 min run on hard: You need to use the automatic assimilator, call down pylon and that time slowdown thing - Build an assimilator ASAP, rush to DT tech. - When you have 2 or 3 DTs, run with them to the exit. You do not need to kill anything. You have time to get some of those minerals and gas pickups. Avoid cannons obviously. - Build 8 Gates at home, save resources otherwise. You can get a forge with weapon upgrade if you want. - There is a point when you cannot get any further with the DTs (there are 3 cannons and a collossi guarding the way). Use your time stasis on the 3 cannons so they don’t detect you anymore. - Now HURRY, get up the hill and hide in the spot where the solarite is before the warpprisms deploy the cannons. - Use the call down pylon from the Spear of Adun to get a warp in spot. Warp in only Stalkers. Use first 8 Stalkers to kill the three cannons in front of your warp in place. - You need at least 16 Stalkers to go any further. There are many enemies in front of you, Use godlike blink micro to kill the topmost ones, ignore bottom ones. Kill the Pylon powering the top shield, blink down into the last chamber and kill the two other pylons (ignore all enemies, you should have enough Stalkers to suicide) I managed to beat it in 10:03min with this strat. HINT: Every blink gives you extra shields, so blink very often This is awesome, thank you. When you mean time slow down thing.. do you mean the one where it freezes units? I don't think I have a "time slowdown" ability yet. | ||
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Biolunar
Germany224 Posts
On November 13 2015 04:06 ShowTheLights wrote: This is awesome, thank you. When you mean time slow down thing.. do you mean the one where it freezes units? I don't think I have a "time slowdown" ability yet. Yes the ability that lets you select 3 spots where the time freezes. | ||
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LightIChris
1 Post
On November 12 2015 07:03 AkiZenko wrote: Has anyone been able to do the mastery achievement (Unrestricted Access) for this mission yet? I have no clue how to finish this mission under 11 minutes! The closest I got was a little over 15 minutes. There is actually a way to cheese this achievement At the first force field gate, u can shoot down the pylon behind using solar lance ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wxFW49s.jpg?1) Another key point is u need to focus down warp prisms flying in with blink stalker so the defences won't activate. The rest should be easy. | ||
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AkiZenko
Canada14 Posts
On November 13 2015 10:30 LightIChris wrote: There is actually a way to cheese this achievement At the first force field gate, u can shoot down the pylon behind using solar lance Another key point is u need to focus down warp prisms flying in with blink stalker so the defences won't activate. The rest should be easy. Thanks for sharing this! Having done the Shakuras mission after this, I didn't have access to DTs for what was written above by another poster. This worked wonders. | ||
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frajen86
168 Posts
On November 13 2015 10:30 LightIChris wrote: Another key point is u need to focus down warp prisms flying in with blink stalker so the defences won't activate. The rest should be easy. You can use the Solar Lance to kill the warp prisms pretty easily too : ) | ||
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scarstream
29 Posts
-Army should consist mainly of DTs, as for Spear abilities, auto Assimilator and Solar Lance are a must. -Right at the start, make an Assimilator and get Dark Shrine ASAP. -At around 4-5 minutes, you should be attacking that first gate with the Solar Lance, as in LightIChris' screenshot. -You should also have a few DTs at this point, make sure you picked Nerazim for the faction, their ability would make clearing enemies faster. -Don't waste time clearing the buildings, instead get all the Sentries and resource pickups (around this time you'll be attacked in your base, so defend accordingly.) -The Warp Prisms only trigger when you face the group of enemies after the base, the ones with 2 Archons. -You should save your Solar Lance for the Prisms, so right after dealing with the Archon group, send a DT up the ramp to get vision of them, then snipe the Prisms then clear the enemies in the way to the gate. -It's probably tempting to use a Solar Lance for this next part, but I'd advise saving it for the last gate. Instead use whatever units left to destroy only 1 side of the defenses, then pass through the gate. -Now send all your remaining units through the gate, then snipe the gate Pylons with a Solar Lance. Send your DTs to the point. I finished it at 9:39. | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
- bring a probe along to build pylons on the way - use temporal field to stasis enemy before big battles - fully upgrade at forge | ||
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DrSeRRoD
United States490 Posts
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zhuwawagu
25 Posts
Brutal playthrough Mastery achievement | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
I think the best method is to combine the 2 - Take auto assimilator, solar lance, call down pylon - Rush to just 1 dt ASAP/ build in your base 8 warpgate - Do the cheese at the first force field gate - just go around the photo canon and rush pass the archon to the solarite spot - call down pylon then build mass stalker - just chip away the first 3 cannons + army with your first stalkers - with 16 stalkers go in for the final push, blink as much as you can, take the first top pylon (only) then for the next you solar lance the 2 of them and win easily ^^ | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Using Nerazhim DTs, build up to 5 DTs (around 5 min), kill cannon with Shadowfury, cheese past forcewall with the solar lance, then kill everything in the base while building more DTs. Use the Shadow Fury to clear cannons easily from range. Do not engage the archons! When base is cleared wait until you have something like 12 DTs. The run past the archon group, the warpprisms will still need to fly. Run past all 3 unpowered cannon lines until you meet the red forcewall guarded by pylons and shieldbatteries, Shadowfury onto the pylons and they die instantly, walk down the ramp and solar lance the collosus + pylons, and victory :D No need for stalkers | ||
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Lucasmus
35 Posts
Completed it a few seconds faster afterwards (10:47) and did get the achievement. | ||
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SlammerSC2
77 Posts
On November 11 2015 15:52 Lunareste wrote: I hate to admit this, but I'm having a super hard time beating this on Brutal. Any tips? You can use Solar Lance to break down the red gates which makes it possible for you to skip 2/3 of the map | ||
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