The Organizer's Alliance Against Absent Athletes - Page 11

On August 04 2015 02:22 hZCube wrote:
I still don't see how, if a player wants to bypass a ban, you can stop them from - or detect them if - they want to make another secondary account to play on.

Bans in sport typically are done by registered authorities, that require a reasonable amount of proof of identification before enrolment.

Has this been discussed by the alliance members, as frankly, unless I'm missing something, any ban you issue is literally pointless, as it's so easy to circumvent?

On August 04 2015 06:02 hZCube wrote:
True, 'literally' is maybe an exaggeration.

But I think you underestimate how easy it would be to rebrand as a player, most of these people are relatively unknown - and could easily enter under a wholly new name with little to no consequences.

And, this is my point - they aren't blacklisting 'people' - they are blacklisting b.net ID's.

Don't get me wrong, I can see the point - it's obviously a good idea to try to eliminate these kind of problems, I'm just saying - that for me, this solution won't really be that effective.

It's the same as people whining to Blizzard to ban map hackers - they'll just re-appear under new handles within hours/days. Getting accounts in sc2 is easy. That's the problem :/


In Korea, some games requires a Korean SSID (Social Security number), that ties that account to an individual. This is much harder to exploit, but isn't available in the western market.

I didn't want to be a total kill-joy, was just providing the other side of the coin in that a potential 'absenter' who ruins tournaments, can easily bypass this system as it stands.


I'd actually find it hard to believe that a player, who gives such little regard for the tournaments (as displayed by them ruining at least three?) - would sit back and say 'oh noes, i got banned, that's it then'. I suspect, people of that persuasion, will just re-roll an alt and carry on. I might be proven wrong.

On August 04 2015 15:12 bduddy wrote:
It would be so perfect if Jaedong was the first player thrown in foreigner jail.

On August 04 2015 04:51 loft wrote:
It looks like the lower level tournament hosts are participating in this "JAIL." I think this was a poor direction to go in. I get that small tournaments want bigger names playing to build interest, but punishing higher tier players doesn't seem to be the answer.

Why are higher level players cancelling? Just because they don't want to play? Probably not "Just because," but for some reason outside of the tournament that is more important than the small prize offered. Maybe they were participating just to help the tournament organizer out? I don't know.

Your small tournament isn't WCS, or any other premiere tournament. Get creative in rewarding higher tier players to join. This doesn't always have to be monetary.

Just off the top of my head: You could do a Player Spotlight Tourney where you follow DeMuslim through the tournament. He get's positive exposure in the scene. More of a role than just grinding a small tourney for chump change.
If they don't want you to stream their games then... why ban them from tourney since they weren't going to draw viewers anyways.

TL;DR get creative with hosting smaller tournaments instead of punishing players for small tourney no-shows. This seems like a lot of unnecessary work to put people in "Jail" for small tourneys.