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KeSPA's official statement on match fixing - Page 5

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SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
May 07 2015 15:28 GMT
#81
Why are we only just now getting a statement? And how can they possibly expect anyone to believe that "none of the players were involved in match fixing" ......
Don't forget to bring a towel! (Towelie.635)
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 07 2015 15:30 GMT
#82
The only thing of substance is that people were jailed, which is more than what I expected from KeSPA. The only thing to do is see how it pans out I guess.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 15:34:16
May 07 2015 15:33 GMT
#83
On May 08 2015 00:28 SC2Towelie wrote:
Why are we only just now getting a statement? And how can they possibly expect anyone to believe that "none of the players were involved in match fixing" ......


considering how much suspicion and the fact they actually jailed people without so much as surfacing a report. yeah it's very hard to believe.

On May 08 2015 00:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
The only thing of substance is that people were jailed, which is more than what I expected from KeSPA. The only thing to do is see how it pans out I guess.


it was the police. not KeSPA. KeSPA jail is fictional o;
Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
May 07 2015 15:34 GMT
#84
I hope someone at least bought statistics dinner and drinks before the abuse it's had to endure in this thread because some of y'all didn't even bother to lube up before bending it over.
I will always believe in the fallen king.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
May 07 2015 15:35 GMT
#85
bout time
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
maGicc
Profile Joined March 2015
Finland134 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 15:37:34
May 07 2015 15:35 GMT
#86
On May 08 2015 00:28 SC2Towelie wrote:
Why are we only just now getting a statement? And how can they possibly expect anyone to believe that "none of the players were involved in match fixing" ......


reddit mentioned " Apparently there was a report in some of the Korean news about the possible match fixing scandal, and that was what prompted KeSPA to make this statement "
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
May 07 2015 15:37 GMT
#87
On May 07 2015 23:45 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 22:11 Luolis wrote:
On May 07 2015 22:03 maGicc wrote:
Guess Rekrul was on point when he said that its in Kespa's best interest to cover it as much as possible.

But i guess some people will buy it and even will think that MatchFixKing.prime is innocent and "just bad"

Please go away with your witch hunt and leave actually intelligent people to deal with this stuff

you can't be that naive...

Ive never said that he was wrong, i just think hes an asshole who shouldnt post here.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 07 2015 15:39 GMT
#88
Good, hopefully all the math people will be less annoying.
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
May 07 2015 15:40 GMT
#89
So, just so I have the facts straight...

-Every single time the betting lines were heavily skewed, they correctly predicted the outcome of the match.
-Kespa is saying that was entirely coincidental.
-Everyone who is "relieved" by Kespa's statement agrees that it was entirely coincidental.

Am I off on anything?
maGicc
Profile Joined March 2015
Finland134 Posts
May 07 2015 15:43 GMT
#90
On May 08 2015 00:40 Popkiller wrote:
So, just so I have the facts straight...

-Every single time the betting lines were heavily skewed, they correctly predicted the outcome of the match.
-Kespa is saying that was entirely coincidental.
-Everyone who is "relieved" by Kespa's statement agrees that it was entirely coincidental.

Am I off on anything?


Ye i dont think its correct to say that "Kespa is saying that was entirely coincidental". Its more like Kespa did not acknowledge it or just does not care about the voids.

If the info about "report in some of the Korean news about the possible match fixing scandal" is true, than more likely that whole statement is just a rushed out damage control and nothing else, more or less.
DuckloadBlackra
Profile Joined July 2011
225 Posts
May 07 2015 15:55 GMT
#91
On May 07 2015 22:03 maGicc wrote:
Guess Rekrul was on point when he said that its in Kespa's best interest to cover it as much as possible.

But i guess some people will buy it and even will think that MatchFixKing.prime is innocent and "just bad"


You are unbearably naive.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 07 2015 16:00 GMT
#92
I'm sadly not convinced Happy they made a statement though.

I would love it if we could see the evidence that apparently MVP and Kespa has. If it's sensitive information then someone trustworthy and non-biased could look at it. As it is, both Kespa and the teams are hurt more (short term at least) if the matchfixing is revealed to be true.

Would be very interesting to know to what degree the police are involved.
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
May 07 2015 16:00 GMT
#93
The reason Kespa made the statement by now is that there was an incident that a match-fixing broker was illegally confined by the match-fixing investor after the broker's deal to the progamer(Soulkey) to match-fix was denied, and the investor lost his bet.
Report on that: http://www.gameshot.net/common/con_view.php?code=GA554b2e40e08a9
결과적으로 A 선수가 제의를 거부해 승부 조작이 무산되자 돈을 날린 투자자는 브로커를 감금한 것. 위협을 느낀 브로커가 경기도 경찰청 광역수사대에 구조를 요청하면서 이번 사건이 경찰에 의해 본격 조사에 착수, A 선수는 조만간 검찰에 출두해 자세한 내용을 밝힐 것으로 보인다.

So, there was an actual investigation on this by the police about the match-fixing( and probably more focused on the confinement). And consequently, Kespa released the statement as this had a physical incident and investigation unlike some online betting site outside of Korea pulling bets you know who to investigate other than the gamers.
saulovh5150
Profile Joined April 2014
Norway10 Posts
May 07 2015 16:02 GMT
#94
This should make some idiots STFU before coming 10 minutes after a match fixing note is released just to cry "OMG, San is a MF", "OMG, why, MarineKing, why".
maGicc
Profile Joined March 2015
Finland134 Posts
May 07 2015 16:04 GMT
#95
On May 08 2015 00:55 DuckloadBlackra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 22:03 maGicc wrote:
Guess Rekrul was on point when he said that its in Kespa's best interest to cover it as much as possible.

But i guess some people will buy it and even will think that MatchFixKing.prime is innocent and "just bad"


You are unbearably naive.


Coming from someone who still thinks that MKP is innocent that means a lot
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 07 2015 16:05 GMT
#96
On May 08 2015 01:00 egernya wrote:
The reason Kespa made the statement by now is that there was an incident that a match-fixing broker was illegally confined by the match-fixing investor after the broker's deal to the progamer(Soulkey) to match-fix was denied, and the investor lost his bet.
Report on that: http://www.gameshot.net/common/con_view.php?code=GA554b2e40e08a9
결과적으로 A 선수가 제의를 거부해 승부 조작이 무산되자 돈을 날린 투자자는 브로커를 감금한 것. 위협을 느낀 브로커가 경기도 경찰청 광역수사대에 구조를 요청하면서 이번 사건이 경찰에 의해 본격 조사에 착수, A 선수는 조만간 검찰에 출두해 자세한 내용을 밝힐 것으로 보인다.

So, there was an actual investigation on this by the police about the match-fixing( and probably more focused on the confinement). And consequently, Kespa released the statement as this had a physical incident and investigation unlike some online betting site outside of Korea pulling bets you know who to investigate other than the gamers.


Do we know if the police investigated Soulkey (like chat logs/bank account etc) or not?
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egernya
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada352 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 16:11:08
May 07 2015 16:08 GMT
#97
On May 08 2015 01:05 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 01:00 egernya wrote:
The reason Kespa made the statement by now is that there was an incident that a match-fixing broker was illegally confined by the match-fixing investor after the broker's deal to the progamer(Soulkey) to match-fix was denied, and the investor lost his bet.
Report on that: http://www.gameshot.net/common/con_view.php?code=GA554b2e40e08a9
결과적으로 A 선수가 제의를 거부해 승부 조작이 무산되자 돈을 날린 투자자는 브로커를 감금한 것. 위협을 느낀 브로커가 경기도 경찰청 광역수사대에 구조를 요청하면서 이번 사건이 경찰에 의해 본격 조사에 착수, A 선수는 조만간 검찰에 출두해 자세한 내용을 밝힐 것으로 보인다.

So, there was an actual investigation on this by the police about the match-fixing( and probably more focused on the confinement). And consequently, Kespa released the statement as this had a physical incident and investigation unlike some online betting site outside of Korea pulling bets you know who to investigate other than the gamers.


Do we know if the police investigated Soulkey (like chat logs/bank account etc) or not?


We don't know if they did yet. (They didn't release the full/final statement yet, though they will soon, so we may know.) However, at least we know that the one got locked up would have testified that Soulkey denied the offer.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
May 07 2015 16:12 GMT
#98
On May 08 2015 01:00 egernya wrote:
The reason Kespa made the statement by now is that there was an incident that a match-fixing broker was illegally confined by the match-fixing investor after the broker's deal to the progamer(Soulkey) to match-fix was denied, and the investor lost his bet.
Report on that: http://www.gameshot.net/common/con_view.php?code=GA554b2e40e08a9
결과적으로 A 선수가 제의를 거부해 승부 조작이 무산되자 돈을 날린 투자자는 브로커를 감금한 것. 위협을 느낀 브로커가 경기도 경찰청 광역수사대에 구조를 요청하면서 이번 사건이 경찰에 의해 본격 조사에 착수, A 선수는 조만간 검찰에 출두해 자세한 내용을 밝힐 것으로 보인다.

So, there was an actual investigation on this by the police about the match-fixing( and probably more focused on the confinement). And consequently, Kespa released the statement as this had a physical incident and investigation unlike some online betting site outside of Korea pulling bets you know who to investigate other than the gamers.

Does that explain how they guy lost his bet if Soulkey didn't accept?
Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
May 07 2015 16:14 GMT
#99
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 07 2015 16:14 GMT
#100
On May 08 2015 01:08 egernya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 01:05 DJHelium wrote:
On May 08 2015 01:00 egernya wrote:
The reason Kespa made the statement by now is that there was an incident that a match-fixing broker was illegally confined by the match-fixing investor after the broker's deal to the progamer(Soulkey) to match-fix was denied, and the investor lost his bet.
Report on that: http://www.gameshot.net/common/con_view.php?code=GA554b2e40e08a9
결과적으로 A 선수가 제의를 거부해 승부 조작이 무산되자 돈을 날린 투자자는 브로커를 감금한 것. 위협을 느낀 브로커가 경기도 경찰청 광역수사대에 구조를 요청하면서 이번 사건이 경찰에 의해 본격 조사에 착수, A 선수는 조만간 검찰에 출두해 자세한 내용을 밝힐 것으로 보인다.

So, there was an actual investigation on this by the police about the match-fixing( and probably more focused on the confinement). And consequently, Kespa released the statement as this had a physical incident and investigation unlike some online betting site outside of Korea pulling bets you know who to investigate other than the gamers.


Do we know if the police investigated Soulkey (like chat logs/bank account etc) or not?


We don't know if they did yet. (They didn't release the full/final statement yet, though they will soon, so we may know.) However, at least we know that the one got locked up would have testified that Soulkey denied the offer.


Ok, I feel that is a big difference! Thanks for the translation, please keep up updated!
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