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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 30 2015 18:52 Inzan1ty wrote: Mvp = King of Wings Life = Emperor of Swarm Its all tied, let LotV be the deciding "map" :D Much respect for what Mvp has build and accomplished, but Life belongs the future. There is no doubt Life will overcome Mvp in the future. The main question is when. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
thanks for this | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 30 2015 19:18 sAsImre wrote: There is no doubt Life will overcome Mvp in the future. The main question is when. Just over a month ago, in fact | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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Berry_CruncH
5 Posts
On April 30 2015 06:46 Zealously wrote: You're making an uneven argument. Life's most dominant streak was during the BL/infestor era, yes, but Mvp's most dominant streak was not when Terran was at its weakest - it was in early 2011, when Terran was universally considered the strongest race. For proper comparison, you should compare Mvp's win vs Squirtle to Life's win at MLG Dallas or his out-of-the-blue win at Blizzcon 2014. I really hate the Blizzcon win being referred to as out of the blue... Like for real, almost everyone i know said and many others i don't know have all said that if he beat Zest in the first round he would most likely win the entire tournament. This community is so Zerg biased because the best foreigners are all Zergs. | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
On April 30 2015 19:24 RaiKageRyu wrote: Mvp section was such a beautiful read. I do agree. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 30 2015 19:27 Berry_CruncH wrote: I really hate the Blizzcon win being referred to as out of the blue... Like for real, almost everyone i know said and many others i don't know have all said that if he beat Zest in the first round he would most likely win the entire tournament. This community is so Zerg biased because the best foreigners are all Zergs. That's a lot like saying "if Mvp only beats the good Protoss players, he'll most likely win the tournament"... Well, obviously. If you beat the toughest opponent (although Zest was second in difficulty to Taeja, who has always been a thorn in Life's side), the tournament just became a whole lot easier. The thing is that few people thought Life had a realistic shot against Zest, even fewer that he was favored to win. San had never lost a televised game to Life prior to Blizzcon. So say what you will, but it was not just "Life only had to do X to win the tournament", and this is not an ill-defined 'Zerg bias' resulting from some irrational love for foreigners - I find that argument somewhat insulting. Life's Blizzcon run was, taking into account his matchup preferences and his historical records, one of the most difficult roads he could have possibly taken to the finals. If you want to discredit it to raise Mvp to the skies, fine, but don't twist history into it being a simple run. | ||
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Negius
Netherlands290 Posts
I hope this article will go on as one of the classics on this site. For now (LG)IM_mvp is #1, my guess is he'll be number one for the whole of HotS. Life is amazing, but the fact that "but it's mvp" has more power than "life finds a way" is for my enough. Mvp made starcraft. Life bends starcraft to his own will. Mvp creates miracles. Life finds a way to make a miracle happen. Mvp can't win... but it's mvp. Life finds a way to win. | ||
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ffrozenfish
820 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On April 30 2015 05:54 stuchiu wrote: I know most of you just read the order but #1 is 8900 words long, that is 1/4th the entire article for all 15 players combined. To be honest I enjoyed Mvp more than the other 14. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3355 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
nothing from 2015 was included right? if so it's already the case and saddening :'(. | ||
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
 Mvp vs Squirtle GSL finals must be best finals ever in SC2. I was so hyped | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
On April 30 2015 21:01 Darrkhan wrote: Mvp vs Squirtle GSL finals must be best finals ever in SC2. that would be MMA vs DRG @ Blizzard Cup 2011 but close enough  | ||
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Apoteosis
Chile820 Posts
On April 30 2015 21:13 Inzan1ty wrote: that would be MMA vs DRG @ Blizzard Cup 2011 but close enough Both aren't even close to the epicness that was Leenock vs Jjakji finals. | ||
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moofang
508 Posts
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Khai
Australia551 Posts
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Apoteosis
Chile820 Posts
On April 30 2015 17:36 TheDwf wrote: That's some epic rewriting of history if I ever saw it. Yea sure, look at the VODs... At that time, overlord scout for zerg should hit at 6:30. By that time you can only see a factory and a tech-lab. Mvp exploited that fact and switched between 2fact BFH and 1-1-1 hellion banshee. G1 was 2fact BFH. G3 was Hellion Banshee. Why 2fact BFH is considered cheese? Because if you don't do enough damage with the BFH (and by damage, I mean 15+ drone kills), you get so behind that is nearly impossible to come back. Watch the VODs and you will see what I'm pointing at. In the games that Mvp went fot 2fact BFH and didn't do enough damage, his follow-up 3 base mech push (which, by the way, was Mvp build of choice in the late game throughout all the series) was easily thwarted by Life. And by the way, throughout all the series, Life actively made the effort to deny Mvp's map control. Look at the VOD's. Hellions and banshees give map control for Terran until mutas came. What did Life to counter that? His trademark backstabs and run-bys. They barely made damage to Mvp's economy, but if you look closely, Life was active with his zerglings all the early and midgame, in order to always being aware of where were the hellions of Mvp. So, while Life was making a runby at the third fo Mvp, he sent another pack of lings to surround and kill the hellions, thus denying Mvp's map control. Mvp vs Life was a great series. All these details, all that mindgames, it was a beautiful series, worthy of the two best SC2 players of all-time. | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
Maybe Life can do it for him. Great write up. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
So not robbed after all | ||
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