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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 3 - Page 4

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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 25 2015 17:03 GMT
#61
On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote:
For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3...
Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2.
I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15.


Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect

sOs never owned Starcraft haha. He did well in GSL season 1 2013. Then he won Blizzcon and got 2nd at Red Bull. Then a few months later he won IEM.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 25 2015 17:03 GMT
#62
On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote:
For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3...
Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2.
I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15.


Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect


When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend?
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calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
April 25 2015 17:04 GMT
#63
Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong.
BongChambers
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada591 Posts
April 25 2015 17:05 GMT
#64
On April 26 2015 01:58 Jer99 wrote:
Why is TaeJa not #1? Where's the liquid bias?


This is my question.

Pre sure everyone is upset that TaeJa is #3 and not #1

Right guys?
420
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 17:05:51
April 25 2015 17:05 GMT
#65
The liquid bias is disgusting, everyone knows that gumibear is far superior to taeja.

And no emperor of China billowy, Taeja can't claim dominion over a billion people homestory cup got nothing on that.
Glorious SEA doto
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
April 25 2015 17:05 GMT
#66
That TL bias. Expecting #1 to be TLO and #2 to be LiquidRet.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 25 2015 17:06 GMT
#67
finally read it all

amazing

the best writing was the polt part obviously # passion
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
April 25 2015 17:06 GMT
#68
On April 26 2015 02:04 calh wrote:
Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong.

Yeah I can't help thinking that GSL should have been a tier on its own.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 25 2015 17:06 GMT
#69
On April 26 2015 02:05 Legio wrote:
That TL bias. Expecting #1 to be TLO and #2 to be LiquidRet.

what about Zenio
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 25 2015 17:07 GMT
#70
On April 26 2015 02:03 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote:
For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3...
Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2.
I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15.


Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect


When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend?

when did any player own sc2 for more than a weekend?
TL+ Member
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
April 25 2015 17:07 GMT
#71
On April 26 2015 01:19 SuperHofmann wrote:
Taeja top 3 without a single korean title, totally undeserved imho

Hoping for Life top 1


Taeja's still good, just overhyped on liquid because it is their horse. There's never been a period in Starcraft where taeja was the defacto best player in the world like how life is now, or how innovation was in early HotS. He won a few dreamhacks where only he and hyun were the only players ever in the GSL, big deal.
moo...for DRG
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 25 2015 17:07 GMT
#72
On April 26 2015 02:07 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 02:03 Zealously wrote:
On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote:
For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3...
Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2.
I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15.


Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect


When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend?

when did any player own sc2 for more than a weekend?

Many times?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-25 17:10:06
April 25 2015 17:08 GMT
#73
On April 26 2015 02:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 02:07 Paljas wrote:
On April 26 2015 02:03 Zealously wrote:
On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote:
For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3...
Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2.
I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15.


Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect


When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend?

when did any player own sc2 for more than a weekend?

Many times?

no?

or rather, yes!
but sOs is one of these players
TL+ Member
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
April 25 2015 17:08 GMT
#74
On April 26 2015 02:04 calh wrote:
Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong.


but remember, the list is not about "the greatest players of all time", even though its titled "the greatest players of all time".
terrible, terrible, damage
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 25 2015 17:08 GMT
#75
On April 26 2015 02:06 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 02:05 Legio wrote:
That TL bias. Expecting #1 to be TLO and #2 to be LiquidRet.

what about Zenio

I can't believe you forgot about tyler, HE WON A TSL FOR FUCK'S SAKE
Glorious SEA doto
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
April 25 2015 17:09 GMT
#76
PartinG?
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 25 2015 17:11 GMT
#77
On April 26 2015 02:04 calh wrote:
Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong.

Another thing to keep in mind is the tiering of tournaments. A basic guideline is Blizzcons(Only 2013+) > GSL > OSL/SSL/Kespa Cup/WCS (2012 KR)/WCG KR/Blizzcon 2011 > International Tournaments.

TL+ Member
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 25 2015 17:15 GMT
#78
On April 26 2015 02:08 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 02:07 Zealously wrote:
On April 26 2015 02:07 Paljas wrote:
On April 26 2015 02:03 Zealously wrote:
On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:
On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote:
For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3...
Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2.
I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15.


Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect


When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend?

when did any player own sc2 for more than a weekend?

Many times?

no?


Mvp through the middle of 2011, Life between October 2012 and March 2013, Innovation between ~April and ~August 2013 are the ones that stand out to me. Arguments to be made for MC, Taeja, DRG and Zest.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 25 2015 17:16 GMT
#79
On April 26 2015 02:11 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2015 02:04 calh wrote:
Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong.

Show nested quote +
Another thing to keep in mind is the tiering of tournaments. A basic guideline is Blizzcons(Only 2013+) > GSL > OSL/SSL/Kespa Cup/WCS (2012 KR)/WCG KR/Blizzcon 2011 > International Tournaments.


Yeah I was about to respond to those people that he did put Blizzcon/GSL/every Korean tournament ever ahead of international events
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 25 2015 17:17 GMT
#80
I thought that you might put Taeja at #2 so it's not as bad as I thought. I probably would have put him before NesTea if I were making the list personally.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
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