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On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote: For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3... Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2. I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15. Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect sOs never owned Starcraft haha. He did well in GSL season 1 2013. Then he won Blizzcon and got 2nd at Red Bull. Then a few months later he won IEM.
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On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote: For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3... Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2. I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15. Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect
When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend?
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Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong.
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On April 26 2015 01:58 Jer99 wrote: Why is TaeJa not #1? Where's the liquid bias?
This is my question.
Pre sure everyone is upset that TaeJa is #3 and not #1
Right guys?
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The liquid bias is disgusting, everyone knows that gumibear is far superior to taeja.
And no emperor of China billowy, Taeja can't claim dominion over a billion people homestory cup got nothing on that.
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That TL bias. Expecting #1 to be TLO and #2 to be LiquidRet.
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finally read it all
amazing
the best writing was the polt part obviously # passion
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On April 26 2015 02:04 calh wrote: Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong. Yeah I can't help thinking that GSL should have been a tier on its own.
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On April 26 2015 02:05 Legio wrote: That TL bias. Expecting #1 to be TLO and #2 to be LiquidRet. what about Zenio
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On April 26 2015 02:03 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote: For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3... Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2. I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15. Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend? when did any player own sc2 for more than a weekend?
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On April 26 2015 01:19 SuperHofmann wrote: Taeja top 3 without a single korean title, totally undeserved imho
Hoping for Life top 1
Taeja's still good, just overhyped on liquid because it is their horse. There's never been a period in Starcraft where taeja was the defacto best player in the world like how life is now, or how innovation was in early HotS. He won a few dreamhacks where only he and hyun were the only players ever in the GSL, big deal.
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On April 26 2015 02:07 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 02:03 Zealously wrote:On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote: For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3... Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2. I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15. Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend? when did any player own sc2 for more than a weekend? Many times?
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On April 26 2015 02:07 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 02:07 Paljas wrote:On April 26 2015 02:03 Zealously wrote:On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote: For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3... Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2. I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15. Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend? when did any player own sc2 for more than a weekend? Many times? no?
or rather, yes! but sOs is one of these players
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On April 26 2015 02:04 calh wrote: Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong.
but remember, the list is not about "the greatest players of all time", even though its titled "the greatest players of all time".
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On April 26 2015 02:06 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 02:05 Legio wrote: That TL bias. Expecting #1 to be TLO and #2 to be LiquidRet. what about Zenio I can't believe you forgot about tyler, HE WON A TSL FOR FUCK'S SAKE
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On April 26 2015 02:04 calh wrote: Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong.
Another thing to keep in mind is the tiering of tournaments. A basic guideline is Blizzcons(Only 2013+) > GSL > OSL/SSL/Kespa Cup/WCS (2012 KR)/WCG KR/Blizzcon 2011 > International Tournaments.
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On April 26 2015 02:08 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 02:07 Zealously wrote:On April 26 2015 02:07 Paljas wrote:On April 26 2015 02:03 Zealously wrote:On April 26 2015 01:50 LongShot27 wrote:On April 26 2015 01:49 ejozl wrote: For me it was never a question if Taeja was top 3... Bigger question is who is number 1 and 2. I hope Life. Anyways, I'm beginning to agree more and more with the list, only thing off for me is Rain's position and the lack of Parting in a top 15. Parting and sOs not being on when both of them owned Starcraft 2 for periods of time is just incorrect When did sOs own SC2 for more than a weekend? when did any player own sc2 for more than a weekend? Many times? no?
Mvp through the middle of 2011, Life between October 2012 and March 2013, Innovation between ~April and ~August 2013 are the ones that stand out to me. Arguments to be made for MC, Taeja, DRG and Zest.
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On April 26 2015 02:11 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 02:04 calh wrote: Whether Taeja deserves to be 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, the most jarring thing about the criteria is not having a separate tier for the hardest tourneys. Equating a regular IEM or DH, Blizzard tier or not, with a GSL just feels wrong. Show nested quote +Another thing to keep in mind is the tiering of tournaments. A basic guideline is Blizzcons(Only 2013+) > GSL > OSL/SSL/Kespa Cup/WCS (2012 KR)/WCG KR/Blizzcon 2011 > International Tournaments. Yeah I was about to respond to those people that he did put Blizzcon/GSL/every Korean tournament ever ahead of international events
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I thought that you might put Taeja at #2 so it's not as bad as I thought. I probably would have put him before NesTea if I were making the list personally.
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