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Canada7 Posts
On March 07 2015 02:44 Tydrokos wrote: I would not get discouraged after 2-5 games. It may take a bit for the system to start re-adjusting to its new settings. Only time will tell! This, just calm all yo teets and play. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
If the MMR threshold changed for example, people should get promoted right away. We're not talking about subtle changes; master league was expected to see a 100% increase(0.89%~ to 2%)... | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/h3jRAB8.png) 38 masters in SEA. gotta fix that. | ||
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stevethemacguy
United States137 Posts
Actually, it'd be cool if you had independent rank vs each race. Considering I'm close to 80% win rate vs Terran, it'd be nice if I was Platinum vs T (and wood league vs Zerg). | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On March 07 2015 05:09 ThomasjServo wrote: 38 masters in SEA. gotta fix that. I remember that year ago there were 30 player in master  Its getting better  | ||
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stevethemacguy
United States137 Posts
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fethers
United States19 Posts
Posted by Psione Hey everyone, Just wanted to provide a quick update, since we're getting questions on this topic. We've confirmed that the new league boundaries were successfully published yesterday in all regions. As this is a mid-season adjustment, we'll need to carefully monitor how existing player accounts are interacting with the new values and determine if additional adjustments are necessary. We'd encourage everyone to continue playing normally as it will allow for more accuracy as we continue to review our data. Working as intended. I think something is a bit amiss here. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12280 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:48 fethers wrote: Working as intended. I think something is a bit amiss here. The answer to that is yes and no. The DB update/push that was intended to go out did go out, but it was apparently very minor. This happened last time too. What happened before was that they needed a bit of extra time to evaluate how the changes from Phase 1 impacted the ladder, then once they gathered enough data, they rolled out Phase 2 which is where the really big shifts in population happened. I don't know if this latest push is Phase 1 of 2, we'll find out based on whether or not there are future changes applied. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On March 07 2015 06:07 stevethemacguy wrote: I've been #1 gold trying hard to get into platinum forever now, but I'd be a bit disappointed if I was suddenly bumped up without earning it. I have a 55% win rate, but am horrible vs Zerg, so I don't think I deserve it yet. I'd rather see the SH removed; that would move me up for sure ;D. Actually, it'd be cool if you had independent rank vs each race. Considering I'm close to 80% win rate vs Terran, it'd be nice if I was Platinum vs T (and wood league vs Zerg). the only thing that determines whether you've "earned it" is how blizzard draws the boundaries. it's not like the words "gold" and "platinum" actually have measurable values or you win prizes for ranking up. it's a matter of how large they want each league to be and what sections of players they think should be matched against each other based on skill distribution. if they decide they want platinum to be bigger and you're moved into platinum you didn't actually "get" anything, platinum just became less impressive | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On March 07 2015 11:01 Excalibur_Z wrote: The answer to that is yes and no. The DB update/push that was intended to go out did go out, but it was apparently very minor. This happened last time too. What happened before was that they needed a bit of extra time to evaluate how the changes from Phase 1 impacted the ladder, then once they gathered enough data, they rolled out Phase 2 which is where the really big shifts in population happened. I don't know if this latest push is Phase 1 of 2, we'll find out based on whether or not there are future changes applied. Since there was absolutely no mention of another update phase, I think this is it. Which is weird, since EU is still on 40% gold. Master went up a little bit now(1.18 instead of 1.12), but I think people have to get used to Gold players of all kinds of skill levels for a while. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3632 Posts
On March 07 2015 06:07 stevethemacguy wrote: I've been #1 gold trying hard to get into platinum forever now, but I'd be a bit disappointed if I was suddenly bumped up without earning it. I have a 55% win rate, but am horrible vs Zerg, so I don't think I deserve it yet. I'd rather see the SH removed; that would move me up for sure ;D. Actually, it'd be cool if you had independent rank vs each race. Considering I'm close to 80% win rate vs Terran, it'd be nice if I was Platinum vs T (and wood league vs Zerg). I guess that being #1 is not important as such, many people get promoted without being #1. What matters is your win percentage (note that 55% is not particularly high) and the average opponents. If you score 55% against gold players you'll probably not get promoted, you belong in "Top Gold". | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On March 07 2015 23:31 RHoudini wrote: I guess that being #1 is not important as such, many people get promoted without being #1. What matters is your win percentage (note that 55% is not particularly high) and the average opponents. If you score 55% against gold players you'll probably not get promoted, you belong in "Top Gold". Not really. The most indicative thing about mmr is indeed your ladder position, but across the whole server, not in your division. If you get promoted without being ~top 5 in the server, it's usually because you have some bonus pool left. A positive winrate can only be related to an improvement, not necessarily to a high mmr. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12280 Posts
On March 07 2015 17:12 KeksX wrote: Since there was absolutely no mention of another update phase, I think this is it. Which is weird, since EU is still on 40% gold. Master went up a little bit now(1.18 instead of 1.12), but I think people have to get used to Gold players of all kinds of skill levels for a while. Counterpoint: there was no mention of another update phase last time either. | ||
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Gojira621
United States374 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
On March 08 2015 02:02 Excalibur_Z wrote: Counterpoint: there was no mention of another update phase last time either. Second last time. Updates in May 2014 happened pretty much immediately (unless there were some shadow changes some days earlier that Blizzard did not publish). But in January 2014 the actual / noticeable offset changes happened two days after patch 2.1. That time Blizzard claimed that they had made the changes already when patch 2.1 was launched. Back then I had full MMR tool data available (+ Blizzard's web profiles were not malfunctioning so most (pretty much all) the data was good). There was no indication that offsets had been changed. But two days later when the actual changes happened they were pretty much immediately noticeable both in MMR tool data and at nios.kr. This time I do not have the MMR tool data as its server is unavailable. But there has been no trend changes regarding nios.kr data in past few days. But as Blizzard keeps in their story that the changes were made, then surely some changes have been made. But could the changes ('phase 1') be something else than offset / threshold changes (miscommunication from Blizzard / miscommunication between community managers and the developers)? Potentially something that has been done to fine-tune/confirm the planned offset/threshold values and the actual change ('phase 2') would happen in near future? One can only speculate as there has been no visible effects regarding the recent change and still Blizzard claims the changes were done. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On March 08 2015 02:02 Excalibur_Z wrote: Counterpoint: there was no mention of another update phase last time either. Why would they announce the first update phase then? If this is just phase one of multiple updates, and it's supposed to not have a huge effect, then they'd be better off not announcing it the way they did. Because they made it seem like it was going to have a huge effect on the ladder. My guess is that they just tested it the wrong way and it's not working as intended on the live servers. I'm still hoping it's just more of a long-term change... Not sure how that would work though since updating the thresholds should result in immediate promotions(correct me if I'm wrong). I mean, for me personally it doesn't really matter. Whether I play high diamonds or low/mid masters doesn't make a difference, but in the german community that got a huge influx due to RocketbeansTV, there are a lot of frustrating newbies in gold playing people that are easily platin and above. So it's kinda annoying having to explain this weird MMR/league scenario  | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On March 08 2015 05:31 Gwavajuice wrote: Did everybody seriously thought that all league numbers would change in 2 days? What else would happen? We all have an MMR and if the new league distributions put me in a different league with the same MMR, i get promoted the next game i play. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On March 08 2015 05:31 Gwavajuice wrote: Did everybody seriously thought that all league numbers would change in 2 days? The thing is that we're not talking about subtle changes here. Taking EU as an example: Of roughly 100k players, 40k players are in gold when it should really be 32k. So 8k players are in the wrong league. For silver, thats 6k and for Platin it's 7k. For Diamond it's 10k, for masters it's 1k. So we have almost 35k players in the wrong leagues, yet we saw a change of a couple hundred at best. Thats only for EU. | ||
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