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2015 WCS Handbook released

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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
February 10 2015 02:29 GMT
#1
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/2015-world-championship-series-handbook-now-available

The 2015 WCS Player Handbook is available for download here and on our Handbook and Policies page. This document provides the format, rights, and responsibilities for all players that participate in the StarCraft II World Championship Series.

The majority of the changes for 2015 have already been released in our announcement and follow-up articles, but this document formalizes those rule changes. A high level overview of important changes includes:

  • 2015 combined format included with all announced details on structure, residency requirements, and Global Event requirements.
  • Player Code of Conduct expanded and clarified.
  • New: the Premier League Champion will automatically retain a spot in Premier League for the next season. That player’s region will receive one less Challenger spot.


Download the handbook at: http://media.blizzard.com/wcs/wcs-player-handbook-v1.1.0.pdf

Aeromi's quest log:
WCS Handbook released: 1/1
WCS S1 Finals venue revealed: 0/1
WCS S1 full schedule released: 0/1
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 10 2015 02:33 GMT
#2
Hm not aeromi posting this, i am disappointed tbh
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
February 10 2015 02:34 GMT
#3
On February 10 2015 11:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Hm not aeromi posting this, i am disappointed tbh


Too busy reading
TL+ Member
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
February 10 2015 02:38 GMT
#4
"Player Code of Conduct expanded and clarified."

Anyone notice the differences?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 10 2015 02:41 GMT
#5
Aeromi not awake to make this news post. So sad
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
February 10 2015 02:42 GMT
#6
diverting attention from the real issues
terrible, terrible, damage
Sirrush
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
February 10 2015 02:42 GMT
#7
Better late than never, I suppose.
Words.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 10 2015 02:42 GMT
#8
2. Restricted Sponsor Categorie:

The following sponsor categories will not be
allowed:

...

f) Any company that is detrimental to Blizzard’s business (hacking, gold
services, account selling, key sellers)


So I guess G2A is a no go as a sponsor, if you want to compete in WCS?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
February 10 2015 02:51 GMT
#9
Is this REAL LIFE?? Does this mean we can no longer use this as an excuse for things?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 10 2015 02:53 GMT
#10
Moderatorlickypiddy
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
February 10 2015 02:53 GMT
#11
AEROMII <33 your time to shine
$O$ | soO
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 10 2015 02:57 GMT
#12
Finally. Well there's nothing really unexpected.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
February 10 2015 02:59 GMT
#13


aeromi the god
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 10 2015 02:59 GMT
#14
Aeromi lives!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Ensue
Profile Joined March 2013
United States144 Posts
February 10 2015 03:05 GMT
#15
whoo! finally! the WCS handbook!

what day is it?
“Toast cannot be explained by any rational means. Toast is me. I am toast.” —Margaret Atwood, Oryx and Crake
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 03:06:18
February 10 2015 03:05 GMT
#16
Hell, it's about time.

Let's get a look at what's inside?
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
February 10 2015 03:14 GMT
#17
BASED AEROMI YOU DID IT!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 03:30:11
February 10 2015 03:27 GMT
#18
The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?

Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that

EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
February 10 2015 03:28 GMT
#19
WHERE IS AEROMI?
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 10 2015 03:31 GMT
#20
They should have waited until Aeromi was awake to do this. SOMEONE GO WAKE HIM UP!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
February 10 2015 03:35 GMT
#21
I feel like I am missing something with Aeromi on this one.. ?
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 10 2015 03:36 GMT
#22
AEROMI WAKE THE FUCK UP
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 10 2015 03:37 GMT
#23
On February 10 2015 12:35 UberNuB wrote:
I feel like I am missing something with Aeromi on this one.. ?

aeromi has spammed his twitter feed asking about this for 115ish days i think...he constantly asks about it..so psione and huk made a point to retweet it to him so he know that his work has finally paid off
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
February 10 2015 03:40 GMT
#24
Daw... Nothing in the handbook can be used against NaNi's return
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 03:44:23
February 10 2015 03:44 GMT
#25
IT'S OUT!

What's this search for Aeromi? What did he do? Aside from the spamming.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 10 2015 03:45 GMT
#26
On February 10 2015 12:44 geokilla wrote:
IT'S OUT!

What's this search for Aeromi? What did he do? Aside from the spamming.

oh...i didnt see that part at first..and there is where u trip me up and leave me speechless..cause i have no idea...
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
CometNine
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand87 Posts
February 10 2015 03:57 GMT
#27
On February 10 2015 12:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?

Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that

EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is.


There's only 31 Available Premier Spots therefore 62 Challenger Spots.
"Building Armour Upgrade is the new meta" - Gretorp (2012)
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
February 10 2015 04:00 GMT
#28
So how will teams sponsored by key-selling sites work with this? Tape/cover over the offending sponsor patch or something like that?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10078 Posts
February 10 2015 04:08 GMT
#29
Aeromi pls
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
February 10 2015 04:31 GMT
#30
Aeromi surrendered his passion so that this handbook may live and see the light of day.

May we never forget his noble and proud sacrifice for the good of esports.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
February 10 2015 04:38 GMT
#31
On February 10 2015 12:57 CometNine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 12:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?

Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that

EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is.


There's only 31 Available Premier Spots therefore 62 Challenger Spots.


Yes but the handbook says 64 people. How do 64 people fight for 62 spots
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
February 10 2015 04:45 GMT
#32
On February 10 2015 13:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 12:57 CometNine wrote:
On February 10 2015 12:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?

Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that

EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is.


There's only 31 Available Premier Spots therefore 62 Challenger Spots.


Yes but the handbook says 64 people. How do 64 people fight for 62 spots


By the magic of typos I'm assuming
In Inca we trust
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 10 2015 05:10 GMT
#33
Somewhere in France, a sleeping Aeromi smiled.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
February 10 2015 05:26 GMT
#34
they couldn't punish aeromi directly but they punished his kin in quebec
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 10 2015 05:39 GMT
#35
TL should have had a pact not to post this. Aeromi deserves this one
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 10 2015 05:43 GMT
#36
Aeromi will party for seven whole days without stopping to celebrate this
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 10 2015 05:44 GMT
#37
On February 10 2015 14:39 Yorkie wrote:
TL should have had a pact not to post this. Aeromi deserves this one


BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
February 10 2015 05:45 GMT
#38
Locations and schedules still aren't released -- Aeromi's heart still bleeds
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
February 10 2015 05:50 GMT
#39
On February 10 2015 13:45 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 13:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 10 2015 12:57 CometNine wrote:
On February 10 2015 12:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?

Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that

EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is.


There's only 31 Available Premier Spots therefore 62 Challenger Spots.


Yes but the handbook says 64 people. How do 64 people fight for 62 spots


By the magic of typos I'm assuming


Because 62 people fight for last 31 spots you can't have 64 if the champion is already seeded back into the Premier League.
Icebound Esports
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
February 10 2015 05:52 GMT
#40
On February 10 2015 11:42 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
2. Restricted Sponsor Categorie:

The following sponsor categories will not be
allowed:

...

f) Any company that is detrimental to Blizzard’s business (hacking, gold
services, account selling, key sellers)


So I guess G2A is a no go as a sponsor, if you want to compete in WCS?

G2A and Kinguin are the big two right now. Is that just for individual players or for organizations?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
February 10 2015 06:00 GMT
#41
On February 10 2015 14:52 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 11:42 Musicus wrote:
2. Restricted Sponsor Categorie:

The following sponsor categories will not be
allowed:

...

f) Any company that is detrimental to Blizzard’s business (hacking, gold
services, account selling, key sellers)


So I guess G2A is a no go as a sponsor, if you want to compete in WCS?

G2A and Kinguin are the big two right now. Is that just for individual players or for organizations?


I assume they're just gonna force them to take off the patches/cover them up when competing in WCS?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
February 10 2015 06:19 GMT
#42
Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station
at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and
complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after
setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator.

Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 06:39:48
February 10 2015 06:20 GMT
#43
Well now that the OP has been transferred to Aeromi the first comment looks weird as fuck >.>
edit : I really dislike that rule about only the champion getting back into Premier tbh. It would have been nice if Challenger had been groups, but with the shitty single Bo5 format it makes it so random...
edit² : there are some typos as well, are you serious Blizzard

Repeated warnings may lead to directly to disqualification.

edit^3 : oh hey guys, maybe NSSL will bring some cool maps next season as well :D
Hahaha and apparently a WCS Tier 1 event needs free 720p but nothing about WCS, GSL and NSSL. Good one, Blizz.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 10 2015 06:26 GMT
#44
On February 10 2015 15:19 MorDka wrote:
Show nested quote +
Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station
at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and
complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after
setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator.

Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad


Purview is a word that kinda works in the context, I don't think it's a typo
AdministratorBreak the chains
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 10 2015 06:30 GMT
#45
probably paid TL to edit their work

ha ha ha
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 06:36:32
February 10 2015 06:36 GMT
#46
On February 10 2015 15:19 MorDka wrote:
Show nested quote +
Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station
at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and
complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after
setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator.

Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad

purview is a real word yo

On February 10 2015 15:30 lichter wrote:
probably paid TL to edit their work

ha ha ha

I laughed and cried
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 10 2015 07:46 GMT
#47
On February 10 2015 15:36 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 15:19 MorDka wrote:
Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station
at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and
complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after
setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator.

Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad

purview is a real word yo


I knew this WCS handbook would have something to teach me

On another note, nice that its finally out =D
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
February 10 2015 07:50 GMT
#48
Hell it's about time.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 10 2015 07:55 GMT
#49
Once more Aeromi proves he's a force to be reckoned with.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
February 10 2015 07:57 GMT
#50
omg this handbook looks like it was created via microsoft word...
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 10 2015 08:01 GMT
#51
On February 10 2015 16:50 Aeromi wrote:
Hell it's about time.


Finally! 'gratz!

Now onto venue + schedule.:>
LiquipediaWanderer
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 08:04:11
February 10 2015 08:03 GMT
#52
I seriously don't understand treating the two regions of this supposedly global league so differently. It's not enough that formats and scheduling are different between the two regions, but now even map pools will probably be different? wtf?

http://i.imgur.com/dy0CdmS.png

edit: On top of that, even the Global events will be forced to use ladder map pool. =/
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gyrus
Profile Joined February 2015
United States53 Posts
February 10 2015 08:06 GMT
#53
Does anyone know where in this handbook I can get a handjob?

User was warned for this post
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
February 10 2015 08:14 GMT
#54
The handbook is ok but there is two mistakes, there is no ForGG rule and we don't know if games are played on normal or faster in game.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3373 Posts
February 10 2015 08:22 GMT
#55
On February 10 2015 17:14 Aeromi wrote:
The handbook is ok but there is two mistakes, there is no ForGG rule and we don't know if games are played on normal or faster in game.


Well now that you ve said it, let s see if they fix it. What is the ForGG rule though? (Sorry I m ignorant). As for game speed, it is a valid point you are raising: it should be in the rules!
Go Aeromi for president/wcs head admin!
Horang2 fan
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 08:30:50
February 10 2015 08:29 GMT
#56
ForGG rule, is the rule that makes it possible for ForGG to compete in WCS EU, where it (apparantly) isn't possible for others like ; First, Yoda etc, which was living in the EU since */*/2013 *

*iirc
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 10 2015 09:42 GMT
#57
On February 10 2015 14:44 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 14:39 Yorkie wrote:
TL should have had a pact not to post this. Aeromi deserves this one


BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME


Awesome
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
February 10 2015 09:46 GMT
#58
Here are all the differences between the WCS 2014 and WCS 2015 handbooks: https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j
starcraft2.fi
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 10:05:24
February 10 2015 10:05 GMT
#59
. Gambling – Players are not allowed to place or attempt to place wagers on any matches or
actions in, or around, for any Blizzard title.


uh oh pinnacle
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
February 10 2015 10:23 GMT
#60
On February 10 2015 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
. Gambling – Players are not allowed to place or attempt to place wagers on any matches or
actions in, or around, for any Blizzard title.


uh oh pinnacle


For comparison, in 2014 handbook the rule was "Gambling – Players are not allowed to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, the World Championship Series."
starcraft2.fi
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
February 10 2015 10:26 GMT
#61
[image loading]

Is this a new thing for the '15 seasons? Or has it been there before? Have any players been requested to do this so far?
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
February 10 2015 10:33 GMT
#62
On February 10 2015 19:23 Azhrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
. Gambling – Players are not allowed to place or attempt to place wagers on any matches or
actions in, or around, for any Blizzard title.


uh oh pinnacle


For comparison, in 2014 handbook the rule was "Gambling – Players are not allowed to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, the World Championship Series."


that's fine -- rotterdam isn't a player :D
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 10 2015 10:42 GMT
#63
Yeah no I'm not so smart players aren't who are betting...
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
February 10 2015 11:28 GMT
#64
THE FUCK WHO KIDNAPPED MY THREAD SFDSGSHH
=D
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
February 10 2015 11:52 GMT
#65
On February 10 2015 15:19 MorDka wrote:
Show nested quote +
Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station
at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and
complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after
setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator.

Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad

Purview is a visual method specially adapted for kittens, so that sentence implies that the tournament administrator will be of a feline persuasion, probably slightly increasing the administration quality compared to previous tournaments.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 12:26:09
February 10 2015 12:23 GMT
#66
On February 10 2015 19:33 Waxangel wrote:
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On February 10 2015 19:23 Azhrak wrote:
On February 10 2015 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
. Gambling – Players are not allowed to place or attempt to place wagers on any matches or
actions in, or around, for any Blizzard title.


uh oh pinnacle


For comparison, in 2014 handbook the rule was "Gambling – Players are not allowed to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, the World Championship Series."


that's fine -- rotterdam isn't a player :D

Dude he made ro64 in the qualifier and almost beat Xenocider with the rotti builds. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_WCS_Season_1/Qualifier/America ) Just as his career started to peak they put in this rule to specifically counter him.

Good work Aeromi love that quest log xD
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 10 2015 12:40 GMT
#67
On February 10 2015 15:00 Waxangel wrote:
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On February 10 2015 14:52 Daralii wrote:
On February 10 2015 11:42 Musicus wrote:
2. Restricted Sponsor Categorie:

The following sponsor categories will not be
allowed:

...

f) Any company that is detrimental to Blizzard’s business (hacking, gold
services, account selling, key sellers)


So I guess G2A is a no go as a sponsor, if you want to compete in WCS?

G2A and Kinguin are the big two right now. Is that just for individual players or for organizations?


I assume they're just gonna force them to take off the patches/cover them up when competing in WCS?


I guess that would be a fair compromise to avoid trouble. They can't just ban all the Liquid players .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States978 Posts
February 10 2015 13:41 GMT
#68
On February 10 2015 19:26 fruity. wrote:
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Is this a new thing for the '15 seasons? Or has it been there before? Have any players been requested to do this so far?


All players would be required for future games, but it's a pretty moot requirement as it wasn't in place for the qualifiers.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
February 10 2015 13:51 GMT
#69
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 14:05:33
February 10 2015 14:05 GMT
#70
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 10 2015 15:42 GMT
#71
I'm so happy for Aeromi, also glad that Blizzard finally released this. Is it possible for all the changes to be highlighted somewhere?
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 10 2015 15:42 GMT
#72
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 10 2015 15:47 GMT
#73
On February 11 2015 00:42 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I'm so happy for Aeromi, also glad that Blizzard finally released this. Is it possible for all the changes to be highlighted somewhere?

Literally one and two posts above yours d:

On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 10 2015 17:47 GMT
#74
damn you need time to read this
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2647 Posts
February 10 2015 18:36 GMT
#75
On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:
Show nested quote +

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.


I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 10 2015 18:37 GMT
#76
On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:
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On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.


I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)

What exactly did lillekanin do?
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 10 2015 18:40 GMT
#77
On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.


I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)

I'm pretty sure turtling in a corner of the map with vikings/ravens/CC and displaying 0 APM would be considered as not competing to the best of one's ability. Much like a Zerg (Miniraiser?) was DQ'ed from that British tournament because he wasn't trying to win the game. It also applies to match-fixing obviously, but I feel it's not the only reason.
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
February 10 2015 18:41 GMT
#78
On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:
On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.


I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)

What exactly did lillekanin do?


Didn't he basically take his hands off the keyboard and like walk around or something? Like very obviously not playing the game
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 18:41:49
February 10 2015 18:41 GMT
#79
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 18:44:16
February 10 2015 18:41 GMT
#80
On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:
On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.


I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)

What exactly did lillekanin do?

Played several qualifiers displaying a mech/mass raven turtling style that made up for very long games, delaying the entire brackets (did one of his game beat the Mana vs Firecake record? I don't remember). And by turtling style I mean turtling style, not trying to win at all. However that did not led to him being DQ'ed because there was no rule about that by then ; what got him DQ'ed was checking Twitter/Twitch chat while in game, walking out of his chair and being literally AFK during the game, as well as writing "I'm a terrorist. Jihad" at the end of the game when Seeker Missile'ing his own Raven fleet.
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 10 2015 18:43 GMT
#81
On February 11 2015 03:41 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:
On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.


I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)

What exactly did lillekanin do?

Played several qualifiers displaying a mech/mass raven turtling style that made up for very long games, delaying the entire brackets (did one of his game beat the Mana vs Firecake record? I don't remember). And by turtling style I mean turtling style, not trying to win at all.


I didn't see the game but from what I read it was more than just a turtling style, he set up to turtle and at least in one game started browsing the internet and chatting outside of the game instead of playing but wouldn't leave the game.

Though I blame swarm hosts for at least 50% of this.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 10 2015 18:44 GMT
#82
On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.


No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa.

But I agree, Challenger is stupid
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 18:46:46
February 10 2015 18:45 GMT
#83
On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.


No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa.

But I agree, Challenger is stupid

Judging from Naniwa's stream I'm not so sure about that d: And there is also Stardust to take into account.

On February 11 2015 03:43 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:41 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:
On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.


I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)

What exactly did lillekanin do?

Played several qualifiers displaying a mech/mass raven turtling style that made up for very long games, delaying the entire brackets (did one of his game beat the Mana vs Firecake record? I don't remember). And by turtling style I mean turtling style, not trying to win at all.


I didn't see the game but from what I read it was more than just a turtling style, he set up to turtle and at least in one game started browsing the internet and chatting outside of the game instead of playing but wouldn't leave the game.

Though I blame swarm hosts for at least 50% of this.

Yep, I edited my post.
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 18:49:48
February 10 2015 18:46 GMT
#84
scarlett will be back... to take the trophy from Jaedong
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 10 2015 18:47 GMT
#85
On February 11 2015 03:41 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:
On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 10 2015 22:51 digmouse wrote:
Yes the anti cheat part is new, see https://www.diffchecker.com/jloyuj0j

Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:

F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.


I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)

What exactly did lillekanin do?

Played several qualifiers displaying a mech/mass raven turtling style that made up for very long games, delaying the entire brackets (did one of his game beat the Mana vs Firecake record? I don't remember). And by turtling style I mean turtling style, not trying to win at all. However that did not led to him being DQ'ed because there was no rule about that by then ; what got him DQ'ed was checking Twitter/Twitch chat while in game, walking out of his chair and being literally AFK during the game, as well as writing "I'm a terrorist. Jihad" at the end of the game when Seeker Missile'ing his own Raven fleet.

thats fucked up
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
February 10 2015 18:48 GMT
#86
On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.


No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa.

But I agree, Challenger is stupid


I didn't pay super close attention to her DotA2 thread, but I thought Scarlett was supposed to come back to SC2 (or at least consider it) in a month or two?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 10 2015 19:10 GMT
#87
On February 11 2015 03:48 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.


No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa.

But I agree, Challenger is stupid


I didn't pay super close attention to her DotA2 thread, but I thought Scarlett was supposed to come back to SC2 (or at least consider it) in a month or two?


The belligerent pessimist in me really doubts it. We'll see her back for LotV of we're lucky
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 10 2015 20:43 GMT
#88
On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.


JD would probably lose to Naniwa.



Hahaha, oh shit, can't breathe, this is too funny, but yeah challenger is not that cool, groups would be better.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
February 10 2015 20:48 GMT
#89
On February 11 2015 05:43 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.


JD would probably lose to Naniwa.



Hahaha, oh shit, can't breathe, this is too funny, but yeah challenger is not that cool, groups would be better.

you act as though it hasnt happened...and that JD is actually good right now
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 10 2015 20:54 GMT
#90
On February 11 2015 05:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 05:43 Musicus wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.


JD would probably lose to Naniwa.



Hahaha, oh shit, can't breathe, this is too funny, but yeah challenger is not that cool, groups would be better.

you act as though it hasnt happened...and that JD is actually good right now


Well, right now who knows, he is kinda still on vacation and moving between continents. But least year he performed really well outside of WCS and finished the year with a good series against Bomber at BlizzCon and top4 at IEM. Gotta keep the haters in check until his glorious return :p.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
February 11 2015 01:14 GMT
#91
On February 11 2015 03:48 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?


Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.


No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa.

But I agree, Challenger is stupid


I didn't pay super close attention to her DotA2 thread, but I thought Scarlett was supposed to come back to SC2 (or at least consider it) in a month or two?

Her goal is to make like a 6.5k mmr by the end of Feb. or she goes back to SC2.
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February 11 2015 01:22 GMT
#92
omg congrats Aeromi~ such passion

Now we just need the schedule ;_;
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February 11 2015 05:48 GMT
#93
On February 11 2015 10:22 eieio wrote:
omg congrats Aeromi~ such passion

Now we just need the schedule ;_;

And venue for the finals
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February 11 2015 06:22 GMT
#94
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote:
Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?

My theory on this: the "top 8" model would result in the WCS top 8 being mostly Korean by the end of season 2, which would virtually guarantee that no foreigners make top 16 for Blizzcon. Any Koreans in Premiere will make it to the top 8, so they would retain their spots every time. With everyone dropping down to a Bo5 challenger, at least there is a chance that a foreigner will upset a Korean in Challenger every so often, leaving space for the top foreigners to rack up points with repeat top 8 or top 4 performances.
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United States53 Posts
February 13 2015 07:00 GMT
#95
On February 11 2015 02:47 Makro wrote:
damn you need time to read this


innocent until proven guilty. lawyers protect the ignorant amirite?
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