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http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/2015-world-championship-series-handbook-now-available
The 2015 WCS Player Handbook is available for download here and on our Handbook and Policies page. This document provides the format, rights, and responsibilities for all players that participate in the StarCraft II World Championship Series. The majority of the changes for 2015 have already been released in our announcement and follow-up articles, but this document formalizes those rule changes. A high level overview of important changes includes: - 2015 combined format included with all announced details on structure, residency requirements, and Global Event requirements.
- Player Code of Conduct expanded and clarified.
- New: the Premier League Champion will automatically retain a spot in Premier League for the next season. That player’s region will receive one less Challenger spot.
Download the handbook at: http://media.blizzard.com/wcs/wcs-player-handbook-v1.1.0.pdf
Aeromi's quest log: WCS Handbook released: 1/1 WCS S1 Finals venue revealed: 0/1 WCS S1 full schedule released: 0/1
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Hm not aeromi posting this, i am disappointed tbh
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On February 10 2015 11:33 The_Red_Viper wrote: Hm not aeromi posting this, i am disappointed tbh
Too busy reading
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"Player Code of Conduct expanded and clarified."
Anyone notice the differences?
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United States23454 Posts
Aeromi not awake to make this news post. So sad
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diverting attention from the real issues
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Better late than never, I suppose.
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2. Restricted Sponsor Categorie:
The following sponsor categories will not be allowed:
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f) Any company that is detrimental to Blizzard’s business (hacking, gold services, account selling, key sellers)
So I guess G2A is a no go as a sponsor, if you want to compete in WCS?
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Is this REAL LIFE?? Does this mean we can no longer use this as an excuse for things?
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Canada16217 Posts
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AEROMII <33 your time to shine
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Finally. Well there's nothing really unexpected.
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Canada8157 Posts
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your Country52793 Posts
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whoo! finally! the WCS handbook!
what day is it?
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Hell, it's about time.
Let's get a look at what's inside?
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The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?
Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that
EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is.
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They should have waited until Aeromi was awake to do this. SOMEONE GO WAKE HIM UP!
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I feel like I am missing something with Aeromi on this one.. ?
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On February 10 2015 12:35 UberNuB wrote: I feel like I am missing something with Aeromi on this one.. ? aeromi has spammed his twitter feed asking about this for 115ish days i think...he constantly asks about it..so psione and huk made a point to retweet it to him so he know that his work has finally paid off
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Daw... Nothing in the handbook can be used against NaNi's return
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IT'S OUT!
What's this search for Aeromi? What did he do? Aside from the spamming.
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On February 10 2015 12:44 geokilla wrote: IT'S OUT!
What's this search for Aeromi? What did he do? Aside from the spamming. oh...i didnt see that part at first..and there is where u trip me up and leave me speechless..cause i have no idea...
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On February 10 2015 12:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?
Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that
EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is.
There's only 31 Available Premier Spots therefore 62 Challenger Spots.
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So how will teams sponsored by key-selling sites work with this? Tape/cover over the offending sponsor patch or something like that?
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Aeromi surrendered his passion so that this handbook may live and see the light of day.
May we never forget his noble and proud sacrifice for the good of esports.
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On February 10 2015 12:57 CometNine wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 12:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?
Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that
EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is. There's only 31 Available Premier Spots therefore 62 Challenger Spots.
Yes but the handbook says 64 people. How do 64 people fight for 62 spots
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On February 10 2015 13:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 12:57 CometNine wrote:On February 10 2015 12:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?
Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that
EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is. There's only 31 Available Premier Spots therefore 62 Challenger Spots. Yes but the handbook says 64 people. How do 64 people fight for 62 spots
By the magic of typos I'm assuming
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United Kingdom31934 Posts
Somewhere in France, a sleeping Aeromi smiled.
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United States32432 Posts
they couldn't punish aeromi directly but they punished his kin in quebec
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TL should have had a pact not to post this. Aeromi deserves this one
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Aeromi will party for seven whole days without stopping to celebrate this
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
On February 10 2015 14:39 Yorkie wrote: TL should have had a pact not to post this. Aeromi deserves this one
BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME
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United States32432 Posts
Locations and schedules still aren't released -- Aeromi's heart still bleeds
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On February 10 2015 13:45 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 13:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:On February 10 2015 12:57 CometNine wrote:On February 10 2015 12:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: The handbook says challenger is played out with 64 people with 31 from qualifiers and 31 from premier but 31+31 is 62 not 64. Where do the extra 2 people come from?
Also pretty weird that only the champion remains in premier, I'm not sure I like that
EDIT: Also is match considered a game or a boX? The handbook says you can switch race after every match but doesn't (unless I'm missing it) clearly define what a match is. There's only 31 Available Premier Spots therefore 62 Challenger Spots. Yes but the handbook says 64 people. How do 64 people fight for 62 spots By the magic of typos I'm assuming
Because 62 people fight for last 31 spots you can't have 64 if the champion is already seeded back into the Premier League.
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On February 10 2015 11:42 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +2. Restricted Sponsor Categorie:
The following sponsor categories will not be allowed:
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f) Any company that is detrimental to Blizzard’s business (hacking, gold services, account selling, key sellers) So I guess G2A is a no go as a sponsor, if you want to compete in WCS? G2A and Kinguin are the big two right now. Is that just for individual players or for organizations?
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United States32432 Posts
On February 10 2015 14:52 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 11:42 Musicus wrote:2. Restricted Sponsor Categorie:
The following sponsor categories will not be allowed:
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f) Any company that is detrimental to Blizzard’s business (hacking, gold services, account selling, key sellers) So I guess G2A is a no go as a sponsor, if you want to compete in WCS? G2A and Kinguin are the big two right now. Is that just for individual players or for organizations?
I assume they're just gonna force them to take off the patches/cover them up when competing in WCS?
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Poland543 Posts
Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator. Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad
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Well now that the OP has been transferred to Aeromi the first comment looks weird as fuck >.> edit : I really dislike that rule about only the champion getting back into Premier tbh. It would have been nice if Challenger had been groups, but with the shitty single Bo5 format it makes it so random... edit² : there are some typos as well, are you serious Blizzard
Repeated warnings may lead to directly to disqualification.
edit^3 : oh hey guys, maybe NSSL will bring some cool maps next season as well :D Hahaha and apparently a WCS Tier 1 event needs free 720p but nothing about WCS, GSL and NSSL. Good one, Blizz.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 10 2015 15:19 MorDka wrote:Show nested quote +Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator. Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad
Purview is a word that kinda works in the context, I don't think it's a typo
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22271 Posts
probably paid TL to edit their work
ha ha ha
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United States32432 Posts
On February 10 2015 15:19 MorDka wrote:Show nested quote +Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator. Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad purview is a real word yo
On February 10 2015 15:30 lichter wrote: probably paid TL to edit their work
ha ha ha I laughed and cried
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On February 10 2015 15:36 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 15:19 MorDka wrote:Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator. Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad purview is a real word yo I knew this WCS handbook would have something to teach me
On another note, nice that its finally out =D
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Once more Aeromi proves he's a force to be reckoned with.
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omg this handbook looks like it was created via microsoft word...
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France9034 Posts
On February 10 2015 16:50 Aeromi wrote: Hell it's about time.
Finally! 'gratz!
Now onto venue + schedule.:>
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I seriously don't understand treating the two regions of this supposedly global league so differently. It's not enough that formats and scheduling are different between the two regions, but now even map pools will probably be different? wtf?
http://i.imgur.com/dy0CdmS.png
edit: On top of that, even the Global events will be forced to use ladder map pool. =/
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Does anyone know where in this handbook I can get a handjob?
User was warned for this post
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The handbook is ok but there is two mistakes, there is no ForGG rule and we don't know if games are played on normal or faster in game.
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On February 10 2015 17:14 Aeromi wrote: The handbook is ok but there is two mistakes, there is no ForGG rule and we don't know if games are played on normal or faster in game.
Well now that you ve said it, let s see if they fix it. What is the ForGG rule though? (Sorry I m ignorant). As for game speed, it is a valid point you are raising: it should be in the rules! Go Aeromi for president/wcs head admin!
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ForGG rule, is the rule that makes it possible for ForGG to compete in WCS EU, where it (apparantly) isn't possible for others like ; First, Yoda etc, which was living in the EU since */*/2013 *
*iirc
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On February 10 2015 14:44 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 14:39 Yorkie wrote: TL should have had a pact not to post this. Aeromi deserves this one BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME
Awesome
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Canada11355 Posts
. Gambling – Players are not allowed to place or attempt to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, for any Blizzard title.
uh oh pinnacle
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On February 10 2015 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +. Gambling – Players are not allowed to place or attempt to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, for any Blizzard title. uh oh pinnacle
For comparison, in 2014 handbook the rule was "Gambling – Players are not allowed to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, the World Championship Series."
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Is this a new thing for the '15 seasons? Or has it been there before? Have any players been requested to do this so far?
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United States32432 Posts
On February 10 2015 19:23 Azhrak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:. Gambling – Players are not allowed to place or attempt to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, for any Blizzard title. uh oh pinnacle For comparison, in 2014 handbook the rule was "Gambling – Players are not allowed to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, the World Championship Series."
that's fine -- rotterdam isn't a player :D
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Canada11355 Posts
Yeah no I'm not so smart players aren't who are betting...
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China6271 Posts
THE FUCK WHO KIDNAPPED MY THREAD SFDSGSHH =D
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On February 10 2015 15:19 MorDka wrote:Show nested quote +Players are required to be ready and check in at their game station at the time designated by the tournament organizer, but not exceeding 120 minutes before the match starts, and complete game preparations including PC setup. If the player requires additional time after setup has completed, additional time is at the purview of the tournament administrator. Found a typo, Good job Blizzrad Purview is a visual method specially adapted for kittens, so that sentence implies that the tournament administrator will be of a feline persuasion, probably slightly increasing the administration quality compared to previous tournaments. + Show Spoiler +
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On February 10 2015 19:33 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 19:23 Azhrak wrote:On February 10 2015 19:05 Fecalfeast wrote:. Gambling – Players are not allowed to place or attempt to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, for any Blizzard title. uh oh pinnacle For comparison, in 2014 handbook the rule was "Gambling – Players are not allowed to place wagers on any matches or actions in, or around, the World Championship Series." that's fine -- rotterdam isn't a player :D Dude he made ro64 in the qualifier and almost beat Xenocider with the rotti builds. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_WCS_Season_1/Qualifier/America ) Just as his career started to peak they put in this rule to specifically counter him.
Good work Aeromi love that quest log xD
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On February 10 2015 15:00 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 14:52 Daralii wrote:On February 10 2015 11:42 Musicus wrote:2. Restricted Sponsor Categorie:
The following sponsor categories will not be allowed:
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f) Any company that is detrimental to Blizzard’s business (hacking, gold services, account selling, key sellers) So I guess G2A is a no go as a sponsor, if you want to compete in WCS? G2A and Kinguin are the big two right now. Is that just for individual players or for organizations? I assume they're just gonna force them to take off the patches/cover them up when competing in WCS?
I guess that would be a fair compromise to avoid trouble. They can't just ban all the Liquid players .
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On February 10 2015 19:26 fruity. wrote:Is this a new thing for the '15 seasons? Or has it been there before? Have any players been requested to do this so far?
All players would be required for future games, but it's a pretty moot requirement as it wasn't in place for the qualifiers.
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Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d:
F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
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I'm so happy for Aeromi, also glad that Blizzard finally released this. Is it possible for all the changes to be highlighted somewhere?
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Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever?
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On February 11 2015 00:42 KingofdaHipHop wrote: I'm so happy for Aeromi, also glad that Blizzard finally released this. Is it possible for all the changes to be highlighted somewhere? Literally one and two posts above yours d:
On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?
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damn you need time to read this
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On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d: Show nested quote + F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose)
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On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d: F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose) What exactly did lillekanin do?
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On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d: F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose) I'm pretty sure turtling in a corner of the map with vikings/ravens/CC and displaying 0 APM would be considered as not competing to the best of one's ability. Much like a Zerg (Miniraiser?) was DQ'ed from that British tournament because he wasn't trying to win the game. It also applies to match-fixing obviously, but I feel it's not the only reason.
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On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d: F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose) What exactly did lillekanin do?
Didn't he basically take his hands off the keyboard and like walk around or something? Like very obviously not playing the game
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On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format?
Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.
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On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d: F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose) What exactly did lillekanin do? Played several qualifiers displaying a mech/mass raven turtling style that made up for very long games, delaying the entire brackets (did one of his game beat the Mana vs Firecake record? I don't remember). And by turtling style I mean turtling style, not trying to win at all. However that did not led to him being DQ'ed because there was no rule about that by then ; what got him DQ'ed was checking Twitter/Twitch chat while in game, walking out of his chair and being literally AFK during the game, as well as writing "I'm a terrorist. Jihad" at the end of the game when Seeker Missile'ing his own Raven fleet.
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On February 11 2015 03:41 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d: F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose) What exactly did lillekanin do? Played several qualifiers displaying a mech/mass raven turtling style that made up for very long games, delaying the entire brackets (did one of his game beat the Mana vs Firecake record? I don't remember). And by turtling style I mean turtling style, not trying to win at all.
I didn't see the game but from what I read it was more than just a turtling style, he set up to turtle and at least in one game started browsing the internet and chatting outside of the game instead of playing but wouldn't leave the game.
Though I blame swarm hosts for at least 50% of this.
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On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format? Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity.
No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa.
But I agree, Challenger is stupid
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On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format? Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity. No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa. But I agree, Challenger is stupid Judging from Naniwa's stream I'm not so sure about that d: And there is also Stardust to take into account.
On February 11 2015 03:43 Yakikorosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:41 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d: F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose) What exactly did lillekanin do? Played several qualifiers displaying a mech/mass raven turtling style that made up for very long games, delaying the entire brackets (did one of his game beat the Mana vs Firecake record? I don't remember). And by turtling style I mean turtling style, not trying to win at all. I didn't see the game but from what I read it was more than just a turtling style, he set up to turtle and at least in one game started browsing the internet and chatting outside of the game instead of playing but wouldn't leave the game. Though I blame swarm hosts for at least 50% of this. Yep, I edited my post.
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scarlett will be back... to take the trophy from Jaedong
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On February 11 2015 03:41 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:37 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 11 2015 03:36 Lexender wrote:On February 10 2015 23:05 OtherWorld wrote:Interesting that this part is new. I guess it's called the Lillekanin rule? (or the Swarm Host rule I guess) d: F. Cheating - Players must compete to the best of their ability at all times.
I don't see how that rule has much to do with Lillekanin games, that part obviously refers to match fixing (competing to the best of their ability -> to not throw matches on purpose) What exactly did lillekanin do? Played several qualifiers displaying a mech/mass raven turtling style that made up for very long games, delaying the entire brackets (did one of his game beat the Mana vs Firecake record? I don't remember). And by turtling style I mean turtling style, not trying to win at all. However that did not led to him being DQ'ed because there was no rule about that by then ; what got him DQ'ed was checking Twitter/Twitch chat while in game, walking out of his chair and being literally AFK during the game, as well as writing "I'm a terrorist. Jihad" at the end of the game when Seeker Missile'ing his own Raven fleet. thats fucked up
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On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format? Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity. No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa. But I agree, Challenger is stupid
I didn't pay super close attention to her DotA2 thread, but I thought Scarlett was supposed to come back to SC2 (or at least consider it) in a month or two?
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On February 11 2015 03:48 Yakikorosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format? Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity. No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa. But I agree, Challenger is stupid I didn't pay super close attention to her DotA2 thread, but I thought Scarlett was supposed to come back to SC2 (or at least consider it) in a month or two?
The belligerent pessimist in me really doubts it. We'll see her back for LotV of we're lucky
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On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format? Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity. JD would probably lose to Naniwa.
Hahaha, oh shit, can't breathe, this is too funny, but yeah challenger is not that cool, groups would be better.
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On February 11 2015 05:43 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format? Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity. JD would probably lose to Naniwa. Hahaha, oh shit, can't breathe, this is too funny, but yeah challenger is not that cool, groups would be better. you act as though it hasnt happened...and that JD is actually good right now
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On February 11 2015 05:48 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 05:43 Musicus wrote:On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format? Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity. JD would probably lose to Naniwa. Hahaha, oh shit, can't breathe, this is too funny, but yeah challenger is not that cool, groups would be better. you act as though it hasnt happened...and that JD is actually good right now
Well, right now who knows, he is kinda still on vacation and moving between continents. But least year he performed really well outside of WCS and finished the year with a good series against Bomber at BlizzCon and top4 at IEM. Gotta keep the haters in check until his glorious return :p.
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On February 11 2015 03:48 Yakikorosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 03:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 11 2015 03:41 Yakikorosu wrote:On February 11 2015 00:47 OtherWorld wrote:On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? Well, isn't it way funnier to make everyone go back to Challenger considering it's a single Bo5 format and not a group format? Well Challenger in WCS AM/EU was Bo5 last year too... anyway I don't mind that much I just wonder if this is good for the WCS tournament. The result of dropping everyone but champion to Challenger where they could be eliminated in a single Bo5 is a lot more churn in the tournament meaning a lot more likely that fan favorites could be eliminated. For example let's assume NaNiwa (a player I dislike but who is very popular with foreign fans) has an amazing run this season of WCS and ends up in the finals where he happens to lose. Next season he's straight back to Challenger where he might get matched up against Scarlett or Jaedong or some unknown player who cheeses him out? I question the wisdom of the decision for WCS' popularity. No chance of seeing Scarlett in WCS next season and honestly, JD would probably lose to Naniwa. But I agree, Challenger is stupid I didn't pay super close attention to her DotA2 thread, but I thought Scarlett was supposed to come back to SC2 (or at least consider it) in a month or two? Her goal is to make like a 6.5k mmr by the end of Feb. or she goes back to SC2.
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omg congrats Aeromi~ such passion
Now we just need the schedule ;_;
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On February 11 2015 10:22 eieio wrote: omg congrats Aeromi~ such passion
Now we just need the schedule ;_; And venue for the finals
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On February 11 2015 00:42 Yakikorosu wrote: Wait so ONLY the champion is auto-seeded into Premier next season? The other 31 players all drop to Challenger? Formerly in WCS America/Europe you auto-qualified for Premier just for making it to Ro16, which I thought was too many people, but just the champion seems too few. What's wrong with the "top 8" model GSL's been using forever? My theory on this: the "top 8" model would result in the WCS top 8 being mostly Korean by the end of season 2, which would virtually guarantee that no foreigners make top 16 for Blizzcon. Any Koreans in Premiere will make it to the top 8, so they would retain their spots every time. With everyone dropping down to a Bo5 challenger, at least there is a chance that a foreigner will upset a Korean in Challenger every so often, leaving space for the top foreigners to rack up points with repeat top 8 or top 4 performances.
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On February 11 2015 02:47 Makro wrote: damn you need time to read this
innocent until proven guilty. lawyers protect the ignorant amirite?
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