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Note: This is a re-rendition of the Chinese translation from Korean. The quality may be lost even more. See original at + Show Spoiler +http://s.163.com/15/0202/15/AHF5UT0U00314Q8T.html
Q: How do you feel?
A: I thought it was impossible to win when down 1-3. But I ended up being very lucky.
Q: Why are you so lucky?
A: I should have won it 4-0, but I made a mistake of selecting all the army (shirnk:F2 Zerg?) when I need groups. I lost a lot of troops because of that.
Q: The 7th game was a proxy spawning, a big disadvantage to you.
A: I never play that map (Inferno Pools) on ladder because of the imbalance. I thought I was going to lose after knowing where he was. But he made mistakes and I won it.
Q: What kind of mistakes?
A: He didn't build the wall up, so my Zerglings could come in. Otherwise I wouldn't win it.
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It's ok to lose some games vs Maru, we won't judge you. You still won!
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He didn't build the wall up...how many games...jesus maru i thought u had this...
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Didn't win Maru win 2, 3 and 4 game?
How could Life have won 4-0 then...?
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Russian Federation80 Posts
On February 02 2015 19:10 sharkie wrote:
Didn't win Maru win 2, 3 and 4 game?
How could Life have won 4-0 then...?
He literally could've win the whole tournament without dropping a single map. He should've just being playing better on all maps. eZpZ :D
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Last map was massive fail by maru on those spawn possition unwinable for zerg if terran play safe. If i forgot first map too it was good finale.
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You know there is a problem with the map set when championship winners are making comments about it in interviews >.>
Obvious mistakes from Maru in the final unfortunately, but life played really really well with his army manipulation throughout.
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On February 02 2015 19:45 -Kyo- wrote:
You know there is a problem with the map set when championship winners are making comments about it in interviews >.>
Obvious mistakes from Maru in the final unfortunately, but life played really really well with his army manipulation throughout.
broodwar was full of map whining, it is part of the game
doesnt matter who says it, championship winner or not lol
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Life is good, but i doubt any zerg could 4-0 Maru right now
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On February 02 2015 20:31 tjtombo wrote:
Life is good, but i doubt any zerg could 4-0 Maru right now
life is the only zerg that could 4-0 him
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On February 02 2015 19:45 -Kyo- wrote:
You know there is a problem with the map set when championship winners are making comments about it in interviews >.>
Obvious mistakes from Maru in the final unfortunately, but life played really really well with his army manipulation throughout.
You also know there's something wrong with balance if champion caliber players say the widow mine is more imbalanced than broodlord infestor. Terran proceeded to have under 10% code S representation.
Sometimes (most times) pro players aren't objective.
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On February 02 2015 21:11 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 19:45 -Kyo- wrote:
You know there is a problem with the map set when championship winners are making comments about it in interviews >.>
Obvious mistakes from Maru in the final unfortunately, but life played really really well with his army manipulation throughout. You also know there's something wrong with balance if champion caliber players say the widow mine is more imbalanced than broodlord infestor. Terran proceeded to have under 10% code S representation. Sometimes (most times) pro players aren't objective.
We should have TaeJa be in charge of the game's balance. That would be glorious.
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Wow this is some real old school Zerg whine.
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Maru threw really hard, he should have won this 4-0
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On February 02 2015 19:10 sharkie wrote:
Didn't win Maru win 2, 3 and 4 game?
How could Life have won 4-0 then...?
If Life would have won those games, he would have 4-0ed Maru. Life felt he could have played well enough to not lose those games.
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Austria24417 Posts
I could be a pro player if I played perfectly!
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I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh.
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Canada2764 Posts
On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh.
They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play.
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On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play.
everyone loved Fighting Spirit back in BW, best map ever!
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this makes me not like life, lol
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Game 3 and 4 definitely harder to defend drop attacks, Life made mistakes of selecting all armies?
So did Maru for not walling properly and watching counter attacks. 1 mine planted in blind-spot areas is enough to at least warn an incoming ling run-by. Maru was too confident to let lings come in, even in games he won. He's used to defending ling run-by, other zerg would have been okay, but these are Life's lings, they are more deadly.
In all the games, they are all very fast paced, and almost no pause at all. Both of them surely made a lot of mistakes.
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On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. We could have 7x reskinned and rotated Overgrowth. As silly as it sounds that would be actually much better than anything we had last year.
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On February 03 2015 00:23 Tuczniak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. We could have 7x reskinned and rotated Overgrowth. As silly as it sounds that would be actually much better than anything we had last year.
Thanks to the awesome Map Editor Blizzard provided us you could only rotate Overgrowth 4 times though
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On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play.
True, but it'd at least filter out shit-tier maps like Inferno Pool. And of course, since it went to the final game, they were required to play on this map which should just have never been made. The very least IEM could do is eliminate close spawns on it... Expedition Lost isn't really that good of a map either, but it's still better than Inferno Poo.
And while there may not be universal like or dislike towards a map, it can be safely removed from the map pool if it completely favors any one race over another. Unlike Proleague maps, where it's actually okay to have racial imbalance against one race (usually not two), a set map pool like IEM's should never have that kind of map in there.
It seems they were just sticking with ladder maps probably due to some BS agreement with Blizzard, but it's just sort of sad that a DECIDING map was played on Inferno Pools, and there were close spawns with a Zerg playing...
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On February 03 2015 00:43 Blargh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. True, but it'd at least filter out shit-tier maps like Inferno Pool. And of course, since it went to the final game, they were required to play on this map which should just have never been made. The very least IEM could do is eliminate close spawns on it... Expedition Lost isn't really that good of a map either, but it's still better than Inferno Poo. And while there may not be universal like or dislike towards a map, it can be safely removed from the map pool if it completely favors any one race over another. Unlike Proleague maps, where it's actually okay to have racial imbalance against one race (usually not two), a set map pool like IEM's should never have that kind of map in there. It seems they were just sticking with ladder maps probably due to some BS agreement with Blizzard, but it's just sort of sad that a DECIDING map was played on Inferno Pools, and there were close spawns with a Zerg playing...
Why eliminate close spawns only? You realize that crosspawns is literally just as broken in zergs favor as the close spawns are in terrans. And if you take out both those spawns, you might as well just remove the map.
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On February 03 2015 00:47 gillon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 00:43 Blargh wrote:On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. True, but it'd at least filter out shit-tier maps like Inferno Pool. And of course, since it went to the final game, they were required to play on this map which should just have never been made. The very least IEM could do is eliminate close spawns on it... Expedition Lost isn't really that good of a map either, but it's still better than Inferno Poo. And while there may not be universal like or dislike towards a map, it can be safely removed from the map pool if it completely favors any one race over another. Unlike Proleague maps, where it's actually okay to have racial imbalance against one race (usually not two), a set map pool like IEM's should never have that kind of map in there. It seems they were just sticking with ladder maps probably due to some BS agreement with Blizzard, but it's just sort of sad that a DECIDING map was played on Inferno Pools, and there were close spawns with a Zerg playing... Why eliminate close spawns only? You realize that crosspawns is literally just as broken in zergs favor as the close spawns are in terrans. And if you take out both those spawns, you might as well just remove the map.
I would never argue that cross spawns were that favored for Zerg. I'd even say that the cross spawns are often the most balanced ones, really. But close spawns pretty much force the Zerg to do an all-in of some sort. Which is exactly what happened, but it turned out to work infinitely better for Life than he had planned. It was actually a pretty humorous loss, and no doubt one of the shittiest deciding games for a big tournament.
And I WOULD like for the map to just be removed. I think it's awful regardless of position... Hell, Maru could have just floated his natural CC to the island and probably won the game even after taking so much damage from first lings. Why are there island bases on maps?? Ever?
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Maru should've ended it in game 5 instead of messing around
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Netherlands4511 Posts
On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play.
im pretty sure 99% of players dislike inferno pools & maybe secret springs. also foxtrot was universally disliked
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United States97276 Posts
On February 03 2015 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Maru should've ended it in game 5 instead of messing around
didnt you read the thread title? Maru was lucky to even get to game 5 /s
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United States15275 Posts
On February 02 2015 23:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I could be a pro player if I played perfectly!
Nah, you have too much personality.
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"Q: The 7th game was a proxy spawning, a big disadvantage to you.
A: I never play that map (Inferno Pools) on ladder because of the imbalance. I thought I was going to lose after knowing where he was. But he made mistakes and I won it."
Life dropping the truth bomb right there.
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On February 02 2015 20:33 A_Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 20:31 tjtombo wrote:
Life is good, but i doubt any zerg could 4-0 Maru right now life is the only zerg that could 4-0 him
well he clearly didnt....
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On February 03 2015 02:07 Liquid`Ret wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. im pretty sure 99% of players dislike inferno pools & maybe secret springs. also foxtrot was universally disliked
Yet Foxtrot didn't produce particularly boring games and had balanced stats.
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On February 03 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 02:07 Liquid`Ret wrote:On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. im pretty sure 99% of players dislike inferno pools & maybe secret springs. also foxtrot was universally disliked Yet Foxtrot didn't produce particularly boring games and had balanced stats.
Foxtrot was my favorite map from last season. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks this though.
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your Country52797 Posts
On February 03 2015 03:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:On February 03 2015 02:07 Liquid`Ret wrote:On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. im pretty sure 99% of players dislike inferno pools & maybe secret springs. also foxtrot was universally disliked Yet Foxtrot didn't produce particularly boring games and had balanced stats. Foxtrot was my favorite map from last season. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks this though.
I really liked foxtrot too, probably more than anything except King Sejong Station.
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On February 03 2015 03:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:On February 03 2015 02:07 Liquid`Ret wrote:On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. im pretty sure 99% of players dislike inferno pools & maybe secret springs. also foxtrot was universally disliked Yet Foxtrot didn't produce particularly boring games and had balanced stats. Foxtrot was my favorite map from last season. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks this though.
it was creative, but instead we kept overgrowth...
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On February 03 2015 04:46 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 03:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On February 03 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:On February 03 2015 02:07 Liquid`Ret wrote:On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. im pretty sure 99% of players dislike inferno pools & maybe secret springs. also foxtrot was universally disliked Yet Foxtrot didn't produce particularly boring games and had balanced stats. Foxtrot was my favorite map from last season. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks this though. it was creative, but instead we kept overgrowth...
And to fill the role of creative map we got Inferno. What a trade...
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On February 03 2015 00:31 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +Q: What kind of mistakes?
A: He didn't build the wall up, so my Zerglings could come in. Otherwise I wouldn't win it. People forgetting to build walls or forgetting to put Zealots on hold position or leaving a depot down seems to be the reason Life wins most of his games, to be fair =P
Yet strangely no other Zerg can imitate this and when I try this on ladder I just die. I dont know how he does it. No matter what game he plays or the caliber of his opponents, his lings ALWAYS get in. If this was NA ladder he'd be in the GM hacker thread in no time. Life is just on another level versus everyone else. It's unreal.
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On February 03 2015 05:14 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 00:31 SatedSC2 wrote:Q: What kind of mistakes?
A: He didn't build the wall up, so my Zerglings could come in. Otherwise I wouldn't win it. People forgetting to build walls or forgetting to put Zealots on hold position or leaving a depot down seems to be the reason Life wins most of his games, to be fair =P Yet strangely no other Zerg can imitate this and when I try this on ladder I just die. I dont know how he does it. No matter what game he plays or the caliber of his opponents, his lings ALWAYS get in. If this was NA ladder he'd be in the GM hacker thread in no time. Life is just on another level versus everyone else. It's unreal.
in those cases its life knowing the timings of people's builds - reactor swap timings, usual timing to send units out and lower depot/move zealot (he knows these timings so well vs T and P), situational timings where he baits a lower/move out then runs in.
in the inferno case he expected maru to wall and was just checking it
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United States1032 Posts
Life has the right mindset here, which is basically 'I made mistakes that's why it was close'.
The alternative mindset is more poisonous for a pro-player and that is 'He made mistakes and that's why it was close', which shows a lack of confidence in one's abilities.
It may look arrogant to some and I can see how it would appear that way, but I think it is still the mindset that pro-players should have. Maru has the same.
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That last game, Life was in spawn positions that favored Terran so heavily I thought he was dead from the start. but then maru made the very strange mistake of leaving a hole in his wall and it cost him
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On February 03 2015 03:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:On February 03 2015 02:07 Liquid`Ret wrote:On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. im pretty sure 99% of players dislike inferno pools & maybe secret springs. also foxtrot was universally disliked Yet Foxtrot didn't produce particularly boring games and had balanced stats. Foxtrot was my favorite map from last season. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks this though.
spectator wise was really entertaining.
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everyone should use f2. But Zerg can make the most use of it, which doesn't mean it is to useful.
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On February 03 2015 09:11 FeyFey wrote:
everyone should use f2. But Zerg can make the most use of it, which doesn't mean it is to useful. LOL sure !!!
Let me know how using the F2 button is benefitial for Protoss after having a beautifully spread out ring of observers just stacked on top of one another...
I really think that the only race which mildly benefits from using F2 is Zerg, since their pre-engagement micro is revolved around setting your units to sandwish the opponent, but once this is done, then F2 all the way.
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United States33175 Posts
he didn't say he used F2 
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On February 03 2015 00:08 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2015 00:00 Soularion wrote:On February 02 2015 23:41 Blargh wrote:
I think we all know that the inferno map sucks massive balls. Tournaments should feel so ashamed for having it in the map pool.
I've always thought tournaments would just be so much better if they asked pros which maps they wanted and picked the ones that all races were okay with...
Maru absolutely had the final game won just from map spawns, so I don't feel too bad about Life winning it in the way he did. Either way it was sort of like a coinflip, heh. They do. The problem is there's at least a hundred pros and they all carry styles that apply to different maps as a result. There is no map that is universally liked by every single pro or universally disliked, and it's not just a matter of races. It's just an inherit problem with maps, really. You'll never have a map pool where everyone likes every map, both in competitive play and casual play. everyone loved Fighting Spirit back in BW, best map ever!
I liked it in sc2 as well.
Now there was a map that died too young 
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On February 03 2015 09:00 Redrot wrote:
Life uses F2? o.O
No, the OP just added that in. The translation went from Kr -> Chinese -> english and i doubt life uses f2 (Based on the youtube vids of Life's first person view games).
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On February 03 2015 00:31 SatedSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +Q: What kind of mistakes?
A: He didn't build the wall up, so my Zerglings could come in. Otherwise I wouldn't win it. People forgetting to build walls or forgetting to put Zealots on hold position or leaving a depot down seems to be the reason Life wins most of his games, to be fair =P
Maybe these players we think are good are not really that good. Maybe Life has seen through charlatans like Maru and Zest and has won his games by taking advantage of these noobs who can't raise depots and put zeolots on hold.
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I was still cheering for life when he was down 1-3...knew he could pull it off ! Life!
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Pretty much the same thing from life again and again. It happend against Taeja, now Maru. all he did was mass lings/banes and bombed the terran when they wanted to play a long macro game. I cant believe it worked for him this well.
If you are to face life, you need to apply the pressure from the beginning. Then he will try bombing you. Build a wall and keep harassing and finish the game with drop plays. Maru was on point most of the time but stupid mistakes cost him the series.
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On February 05 2015 04:08 cpower wrote:
Pretty much the same thing from life again and again. It happend against Taeja, now Maru. all he did was mass lings/banes and bombed the terran when they wanted to play a long macro game. I cant believe it worked for him this well.
If you are to face life, you need to apply the pressure from the beginning. Then he will try bombing you. Build a wall and keep harassing and finish the game with drop plays. Maru was on point most of the time but stupid mistakes cost him the series.
Life ain't exactly a one trick pony you know :D
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I saw two players, both of whom had the potential to win if EITHER fucked up even slightly in the first 5 minutes. Despite the fact that one would inevitably win, it was never easy and they had to remain on top of pressuring the other or it would equalize again very quickly.
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On February 09 2015 21:21 sAsImre wrote:
dodged the rematch.
Life didn't find a way :/
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I don't watch any proleague games.. but I watched this one between Life and Maru from beginning to end.. and I'm sure its not possible.. but are these games in anyway rigged or fixed ? Like Maru was told to lose the game ? In games 2 and 3... it really seemed like Maru outclassed Life. Than the rest of the games, it felt like Maru was holding back .
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On February 13 2015 21:30 anonymous4 wrote:
I don't watch any proleague games.. but I watched this one between Life and Maru from beginning to end.. and I'm sure its not possible.. but are these games in anyway rigged or fixed ? Like Maru was told to lose the game ? In games 2 and 3... it really seemed like Maru outclassed Life. Than the rest of the games, it felt like Maru was holding back .
No.
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On February 13 2015 21:30 anonymous4 wrote:
I don't watch any proleague games.. but I watched this one between Life and Maru from beginning to end.. and I'm sure its not possible.. but are these games in anyway rigged or fixed ? Like Maru was told to lose the game ? In games 2 and 3... it really seemed like Maru outclassed Life. Than the rest of the games, it felt like Maru was holding back .
Not only you might be breaking some of these forums rules, but also you most certainly break comon sense and basic inteligence laws 
but you're just a troll anyway so who cares?
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On February 13 2015 21:30 anonymous4 wrote:
I don't watch any proleague games.. but I watched this one between Life and Maru from beginning to end.. and I'm sure its not possible.. but are these games in anyway rigged or fixed ? Like Maru was told to lose the game ? In games 2 and 3... it really seemed like Maru outclassed Life. Than the rest of the games, it felt like Maru was holding back .
People really need to stop accusing professional players of match fixing.
Seriously stop it
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On February 13 2015 23:07 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2015 21:30 anonymous4 wrote:
I don't watch any proleague games.. but I watched this one between Life and Maru from beginning to end.. and I'm sure its not possible.. but are these games in anyway rigged or fixed ? Like Maru was told to lose the game ? In games 2 and 3... it really seemed like Maru outclassed Life. Than the rest of the games, it felt like Maru was holding back . People really need to stop accusing professional players of match fixing. Seriously stop it
Accusing professional players of match fixing out of spite or jealousy or personal vendettas, yea stop doing that because that's being an asshole.
Questioning professional players of match fixing from an observation, seems to me like if there's due cause you should be encouraging it, often it's just the dedicated fans watching who unearth this sort of shit. Remember when the speed was set wrong on a Parting vs Life game and fans were the ones who noticed?
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