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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 15 2014 08:36 GMT
#21
Great article, very well written
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
December 15 2014 14:17 GMT
#22
On December 15 2014 17:30 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 10:25 Jazzman88 wrote:
On December 15 2014 08:23 sparklyresidue wrote:
I want some good zerg strategy articles that aren't simply: "play like Life"


What you're waiting for is... A Comprehensive Look at How To Take Second Place: The play of soO, Because Let's Face It, Any Zerg Not Named Life Taking a Title is Nigh-Incomprehensible Right Now.



Have you heard about a guy named Solar?


So in this case, you want the follow up article: How to find yourself on the opposite side of the bracket to soO
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 15 2014 16:04 GMT
#23
i never thought it would be possible to write such a thing from a boX

awesome
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rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
December 15 2014 16:39 GMT
#24
Awesome article, I've read the whole OP.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 15 2014 20:32 GMT
#25
On December 15 2014 17:30 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 10:25 Jazzman88 wrote:
On December 15 2014 08:23 sparklyresidue wrote:
I want some good zerg strategy articles that aren't simply: "play like Life"


What you're waiting for is... A Comprehensive Look at How To Take Second Place: The play of soO, Because Let's Face It, Any Zerg Not Named Life Taking a Title is Nigh-Incomprehensible Right Now.



Have you heard about a guy named Solar?

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pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 20:55:24
December 15 2014 20:55 GMT
#26
Great and detailed analysis.

Off-topic(@TheDwf): Why do you always refer to Innovation as Bogus (his old name)?
ProBell
Profile Joined May 2012
Thailand145 Posts
December 15 2014 21:19 GMT
#27
Avilo would be proud.
Exitor45
Profile Joined August 2012
United States72 Posts
December 15 2014 22:57 GMT
#28
Solid write up!
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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
December 15 2014 23:07 GMT
#29
really nice, but i feel if life had a couple weeks to practice vs this style he would have crushed forgg
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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 16 2014 08:41 GMT
#30
On December 15 2014 09:00 NexT_SC2 wrote:
Air ForGG One XD


YES. X-D

I about lost it at the game graph, lol:

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HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
December 16 2014 09:44 GMT
#31
Hope this guide was approved by the mayor of Mech City , Mr. Avilo.
Dan26
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia239 Posts
December 16 2014 11:40 GMT
#32
On December 16 2014 18:44 HomeWorld wrote:
Hope this guide was approved by the mayor of Mech City , Mr. Avilo.


lol. http://i.imgur.com/sFpMflR.jpg
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
December 16 2014 15:09 GMT
#33
I am a bit surprised to not see a greater mention of ForGG's viking/banshee play because that seemed to me like the most innovative part of how he did it. Vikings sniped overseers and Banshees then reked everything else. Or is this a less important part of what he did in comparison to economy management?
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
December 16 2014 15:31 GMT
#34
That income graphs looks about right for all my games LOL, yet I still get destroyed pretty often for having such horrendous micro.

Regardless, maps are pretty much the only deciding factor on whether to go Mech or not. Last week I played a TvZ on Akilon (never really played mech before) at the low masters level, and I still won despite making up my build order on the fly. It's disgustingly easy to camp just ONE area which protects 4 easy bases, spread out siege tanks a bit, position thors appropriately, make a ton of turrets and orbitals, then mass the raven/viking ball for the win.

I honestly have to say ForGG played unnecessarily aggressive in game 3; he had HUGE leads at points in the game, but he always overextended and small mech forces were cleaned up by roach/ling/hydra, which should almost NEVER happen.
Bohemond
Profile Joined May 2012
United States163 Posts
December 16 2014 15:34 GMT
#35
Great read. As usual from Mr. dwf.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 16 2014 17:28 GMT
#36
Of course this wasnt approved by Avilo, it involves attacking and just generally playing aggressively...
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Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 18:22:39
December 16 2014 18:22 GMT
#37
This was infact inspired happys style as diablos stated earlier. You could try to dig out some replays from him too. He beats some extremely high level zergs aswell.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
December 16 2014 20:36 GMT
#38
On December 17 2014 02:28 Teoita wrote:
Of course this wasnt approved by Avilo, it involves attacking and just generally playing aggressively...

Well, if that's so, this guide is pretty much useless. No one in his right mind will ever go aggro while playing mech, unless: he can afford a loss/desperate situation (lol mind games)/god damn god-like top first unit control(situation awareness).
All in all, mech, as it is right now (played correctly) isn't meant to be played aggressively, or go FullNA against any opponent. I dare to say that, mech is pretty much a sure win in every MU if employed correctly(even in TvP lol, barely). But you don't know that ofc. Wonder why.
Big question to you, why there are no koreans playing mech (disregard the once in a century attempts successful attempts or not). The answer is quite simple. Patience.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 16 2014 20:44 GMT
#39
On December 17 2014 05:36 HomeWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 02:28 Teoita wrote:
Of course this wasnt approved by Avilo, it involves attacking and just generally playing aggressively...

Well, if that's so, this guide is pretty much useless. No one in his right mind will ever go aggro while playing mech, unless: he can afford a loss/desperate situation (lol mind games)/god damn god-like top first unit control(situation awareness).
All in all, mech, as it is right now (played correctly) isn't meant to be played aggressively, or go FullNA against any opponent. I dare to say that, mech is pretty much a sure win in every MU if employed correctly(even in TvP lol, barely). But you don't know that ofc. Wonder why.
Big question to you, why there are no koreans playing mech (disregard the once in a century attempts successful attempts or not). The answer is quite simple. Patience.

TIL ForGG isn't Korean, isn't in his right mind, and you are have better knowledge of how to play mech than progamers.
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Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
December 16 2014 21:37 GMT
#40
So, is it determined that ForGG originally intentionally left his fifth unused at first? I had wondered that originally, since he expanded so fast he might not be able to win a drawn out battle. However, as the article stated, he did forget about the expansion for several minutes. While in double digits supply vs Llife's triple digits supply, such as at 35' couldn't he have secured a victory faster? Or am I missing something here?
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