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YoDa and First leave TCM.

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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 20:50:23
December 13 2014 20:40 GMT
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TCM-Gaming would like to announce the official release of both Byeong Hyun 'YoDa' Choi and Hyun Woo 'First' Kang from the TCM StarCraft 2 division.

During their four months with TCM-Gaming Byeong Hyun 'YoDa' CHoi finished as the Runner-Up of the 2014 European WCS Season 3 and finished 4th at the MSI Beat IT 2014. Hyun Woo 'First' Kang finished in 5th place as the 2014 DreamHack Open: Winter tournament. In addition to that both of the players walked out victorious from a series of online tournaments including the GFINITY, ESL and ZOTAC cups.


Jim Maguire - Managing Director of TCM-Gaming

"Due to the recent changes imposed by Blizzard both Yoda and First have been forced to return to their native country to continue their gaming carriers. They have both represented TCM at the highest level in Europe and we wish them well in their futures in Korea. Our involvement in the StarCraft scene has also had to change from a European to a more global perspective and we look forward to announcing our continued support of StarCraft very soon."

- See more at: http://www.tcm-gaming.net/articles/News/StarCraft-II/1158/TCM-Gaming-releases-First-YoDa/#sthash.rivvPqIC.dpuf
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Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
December 13 2014 20:42 GMT
#2
Wow, that's a shocker.
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Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
December 13 2014 20:43 GMT
#3
Was really surprised to read this when I saw it in the sidebar, but the reason makes much sense. It was a pretty good set of months for both First & Yoda, and I hope both the team and the players can build on this success.
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GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
December 13 2014 20:44 GMT
#4
Sad but understandable. Nice that they are still gonna do stuff in sc2 though ^^
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
December 13 2014 20:45 GMT
#5
Blizzard's killing eSport

Good luck to them.
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
December 13 2014 20:45 GMT
#6
"couriers" should be *careers. Well, somewhat predictable news – good luck to both YoDa and First as well as TCM though!
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mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel323 Posts
December 13 2014 20:45 GMT
#7
People are gonna jump into conclusions. I suggest adding "because blizz" to the title.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 13 2014 20:46 GMT
#8
Err I guess that was going to happen. Maybe one of them will go to DP? Because I don't really see PL teams getting new players now that PL is about to begin.
It's pretty cool to see that they still want to invest in SC2 though
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 13 2014 20:46 GMT
#9
Well since they can't play WCS premiere it makes sense. I'm sure they enjoyed their 4 months with TCM and it's good to know TCM stil plans to do starcraft in the future. Good luck to all of them!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
December 13 2014 20:47 GMT
#10
Glad they're still going to support Starcraft
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 13 2014 20:47 GMT
#11
should put this part in bold


"Due to the recent changes imposed by Blizzard both Yoda and First have been forced to return to their native country to continue their gaming couriers. They have both represented TCM at the highest level in Europe and we wish them well in their futures in Korea. Our involvement in the StarCraft scene has also had to change from a European to a more global perspective and we look forward to announcing our continued support of StarCraft very soon."


Unfortunate they couldn't get the same deal that ForGG did. Wonder why?
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
December 13 2014 20:49 GMT
#12
On December 14 2014 05:47 ROOTiaguz wrote:

Unfortunate they couldn't get the same deal that ForGG did. Wonder why?

Because YoDa and First were playing GSL in 2013 whereas ForGG was in Europe in 2012
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 13 2014 20:50 GMT
#13
On December 14 2014 05:47 ROOTiaguz wrote:
should put this part in bold


"Due to the recent changes imposed by Blizzard both Yoda and First have been forced to return to their native country to continue their gaming couriers. They have both represented TCM at the highest level in Europe and we wish them well in their futures in Korea. Our involvement in the StarCraft scene has also had to change from a European to a more global perspective and we look forward to announcing our continued support of StarCraft very soon."


Unfortunate they couldn't get the same deal that ForGG did. Wonder why?

Because they came 2 years later.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 13 2014 20:55 GMT
#14
Not very unssuspectet. TCM doesnt have any roots or connections to kor, where they gonna play now ( and maybe have a harder time then in Europe ).
I wonder if TCM will really support Starcraft from now on, because if you change it to a more "global perspective", you dont have to kick out koreans who will likely take planes to every event they get invited.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 13 2014 20:55 GMT
#15
On December 14 2014 05:47 ROOTiaguz wrote:
should put this part in bold


"Due to the recent changes imposed by Blizzard both Yoda and First have been forced to return to their native country to continue their gaming couriers. They have both represented TCM at the highest level in Europe and we wish them well in their futures in Korea. Our involvement in the StarCraft scene has also had to change from a European to a more global perspective and we look forward to announcing our continued support of StarCraft very soon."


Unfortunate they couldn't get the same deal that ForGG did. Wonder why?

ForGG lived in Europe for way longer. From what I read, ForGG could have got a 'proper' visa if he took some French lessons but he decided not to because he wanted to live in Germany with his girlfriend instead.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 13 2014 21:01 GMT
#16
On December 14 2014 05:47 ROOTiaguz wrote:
should put this part in bold


"Due to the recent changes imposed by Blizzard both Yoda and First have been forced to return to their native country to continue their gaming couriers. They have both represented TCM at the highest level in Europe and we wish them well in their futures in Korea. Our involvement in the StarCraft scene has also had to change from a European to a more global perspective and we look forward to announcing our continued support of StarCraft very soon."


Unfortunate they couldn't get the same deal that ForGG did. Wonder why?

Same reason MC/Hyun/Jaedong/all the Koreans who competed in WCS EU/AM but were based in Korea couldn't. ForGG is the Polt of EU, minus the visa.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 13 2014 21:02 GMT
#17
Maybe if we ask blizz nicely YoDa and First will also get a special rule like ForGG
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 13 2014 21:03 GMT
#18
:-(
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 13 2014 21:04 GMT
#19
Makes sense, hopefully good teams will pick them up!
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 21:07:06
December 13 2014 21:05 GMT
#20
On December 14 2014 05:55 Clonester wrote:
Not very unssuspectet. TCM doesnt have any roots or connections to kor, where they gonna play now ( and maybe have a harder time then in Europe ).
I wonder if TCM will really support Starcraft from now on, because if you change it to a more "global perspective", you dont have to kick out koreans who will likely take planes to every event they get invited.


Since they seem to be focused on the foreign scene, presumably they'll sign a foreigner who has a chance to do well in WCS next year? Though there's not a lot of high level teamless foreigners out there... best two are probably Happy and Neeb? And there's also viOLet who is Korean but allowed to play in WCS, maybe he's the best candidate.

And to be clear on the "ForGG rule" for competing in WCS: you have to have already been living outside of Korea as of *January 1, 2013*. The only players anyone's thought of that this might apply to is ForGG himself and possibly StarDust (and Polt and viOLet who don't need it because they have legal U.S. residency.
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