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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
December 13 2014 21:21 GMT
#21
Blizz's choice in this, is just going to widen the gap between the skill of pro-players in EU/NA and KR.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
December 13 2014 21:24 GMT
#22
On December 14 2014 06:21 fruity. wrote:
Blizz's choice in this, is just going to widen the gap between the skill of pro-players in EU/NA and KR.

That's one of the biggest issues.

snute, Bunny, VortiX and the othere good foreigner are that strong 'cause they have koreans in their servers.

Dividing Korean and foreigner scenes the gap will be bigger and bigger.
Vasacast always in my <3
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
December 13 2014 21:28 GMT
#23
Wonder if the global perspective means picking up foreigners or higher level koreans.

Soulkey started following TCMs twitter not too long ago.
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
December 13 2014 21:29 GMT
#24
On December 14 2014 06:28 Talionis wrote:
Soulkey started following TCMs twitter not too long ago.


ç___ç
Vasacast always in my <3
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 13 2014 21:32 GMT
#25
Wow, that was quick... understandable though
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 21:33:58
December 13 2014 21:33 GMT
#26
So if YoDa and First wont be able to play for SPL, why not keep them for their new "global perspective" as well? While not the best players in the world, I could see either of them do quite well in Korea and weekend tournaments.

Best of luck to them both, hopefully they find a new team soon enough!
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TargA
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway204 Posts
December 13 2014 21:34 GMT
#27
On December 14 2014 06:28 Talionis wrote:
Wonder if the global perspective means picking up foreigners or higher level koreans.

Soulkey started following TCMs twitter not too long ago.



wow, kick koreans cause they cant play wcs eu -> pick up korean player?
ProgamerOn October 26 2013 00:10 Nerchio wrote: Shoutout to Targa, best zerg in europe || http://twitter.com/#!/TargA01
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 13 2014 21:37 GMT
#28
On December 14 2014 06:34 TargA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 06:28 Talionis wrote:
Wonder if the global perspective means picking up foreigners or higher level koreans.

Soulkey started following TCMs twitter not too long ago.



wow, kick koreans cause they cant play wcs eu -> pick up korean player?

Well I imagine they'd take Soulkey over First or YoDa

but yeah that's still weird
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
December 13 2014 21:41 GMT
#29
YoDa must finish his gaming Carriers truly protoss is the master race. we're playing on our carriers
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ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
December 13 2014 21:42 GMT
#30
Assuming TCM was willing to maintain their contracts if they stayed in Europe for 2015 and considering how hard competition is in Korea, wouldn't be worth to move to Europe and compete in DHs, IEM, Gfinity, etc and forfeit WCS (perhaps they could play it in 2016)?

anyway ... "Our involvement in the StarCraft scene has also had to change from a European to a more global perspective and we look forward to announcing our continued support of StarCraft very soon." at least this is good news.
The other race is OP
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 13 2014 21:42 GMT
#31
Well that didn't last too long. Good luck to them
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TargA
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway204 Posts
December 13 2014 22:04 GMT
#32
On December 14 2014 06:37 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 06:34 TargA wrote:
On December 14 2014 06:28 Talionis wrote:
Wonder if the global perspective means picking up foreigners or higher level koreans.

Soulkey started following TCMs twitter not too long ago.



wow, kick koreans cause they cant play wcs eu -> pick up korean player?

Well I imagine they'd take Soulkey over First or YoDa

but yeah that's still weird


hmm, yoda is terran though :O
ProgamerOn October 26 2013 00:10 Nerchio wrote: Shoutout to Targa, best zerg in europe || http://twitter.com/#!/TargA01
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 13 2014 22:11 GMT
#33
Not surprising, they are going back to Korea next year.
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 13 2014 22:40 GMT
#34
It's a large loss for EU ladder, especially Yoda was very strong over there.
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-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
December 13 2014 22:45 GMT
#35
Yo I am not gonna lie I totally thought First was still on a korean team >.>...
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FrodoAntheSlobSticks
Profile Joined December 2014
United States40 Posts
December 13 2014 22:53 GMT
#36
Next news to be is the at hat "First and Yoda jump off a bridge off a bride gotthet" Lol alwya snews to be like them togetht or not ever since IM days
Too Nervous. Can't think of quote ><
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1215 Posts
December 13 2014 23:07 GMT
#37
So how many Korean players are left in Europe? ForGG, StarDust, anyone else?
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 13 2014 23:12 GMT
#38
As long as no Team is able to pay the players enough for a worker visa, yes, these are the players left in EU.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
December 14 2014 00:17 GMT
#39
On December 14 2014 08:07 [16thSq] Kuro wrote:
So how many Korean players are left in Europe? ForGG, StarDust, anyone else?

What? It's known that StarDust is going to play WCS EU ?
ForGG. 29/11/2014
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
December 14 2014 00:20 GMT
#40
On December 14 2014 05:42 Clubfan wrote:
Wow, that's a shocker.

"shocker"
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