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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 22 2014 02:20 GMT
#241
Thinking about it, that gamer slang problem seems to only apply to English. I could be wrong in this, but we really don't use the French word for "rape" to say kinda the same thing in French. At least I don't think I've ever heard it from a French gamer, but it has been a long time since I've played anything online in French and people who I LAN with are too nice to trash talk like that so I wouldn't really know :D
We probably have other offensive terms though. Do you people know if other languages use their equivalent of the word "rape" as a substitute to "win in an overwhelming fashion in a game"?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 22 2014 02:22 GMT
#242
On November 22 2014 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 11:15 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:05 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
"Rape" is not a negative conotation in gaming and "nigga" is not a negative connotation in real life at least in alot of societies in the US. Proffessionals, specifically NBA and NFL players use "nigga" all the time. Kas knew he was far better than maddelisk and it was clearly a joke. Its definitely not worth a suspension. It should only be bannable offense if he were to use something more derogatory such as "pussy" or "faggot" in his tweets which is completely unacceptable. "Rape" is not really negative in gaming culture. Fragbite Masters admin were too harsh on this one.


White people don't say nigga. Gamers don't say "I'm gonna rape a girl".

are you being facetious? Both of those statements are demonstrably false

Are you completely disconnected from reality? You know that those statements are written as affirmations but they're actually basically guidelines or suggestions.

He's not saying that white people don't say nigga, he's saying that white people shouldn't much in the same way that gamers shouldn't say "I'm gonna rape a girl". You need to stop taking thing so literally =/
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5649 Posts
November 22 2014 02:27 GMT
#243
I find it hard to believe how anyone over 13 can find rape "jokes" funny, cool or appropriate, regardless of anyone's gender.

On November 22 2014 11:20 ZenithM wrote:
Do you people know if other languages use their equivalent of the word "rape" as a substitute to "win in an overwhelming fashion in a game"?

In Finnish yes, but mostly with "ass" attached to it.
don't wall off against random
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 22 2014 02:28 GMT
#244
On November 22 2014 11:22 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:15 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:05 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
"Rape" is not a negative conotation in gaming and "nigga" is not a negative connotation in real life at least in alot of societies in the US. Proffessionals, specifically NBA and NFL players use "nigga" all the time. Kas knew he was far better than maddelisk and it was clearly a joke. Its definitely not worth a suspension. It should only be bannable offense if he were to use something more derogatory such as "pussy" or "faggot" in his tweets which is completely unacceptable. "Rape" is not really negative in gaming culture. Fragbite Masters admin were too harsh on this one.


White people don't say nigga. Gamers don't say "I'm gonna rape a girl".

are you being facetious? Both of those statements are demonstrably false

Are you completely disconnected from reality? You know that those statements are written as affirmations but they're actually basically guidelines or suggestions.

He's not saying that white people don't say nigga, he's saying that white people shouldn't much in the same way that gamers shouldn't say "I'm gonna rape a girl". You need to stop taking thing so literally =/

I don't understand the purpose of stating those statements like that, then, since what you just said has been said 100 times over.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 22 2014 02:28 GMT
#245
On November 22 2014 11:20 ZenithM wrote:
Thinking about it, that gamer slang problem seems to only apply to English. I could be wrong in this, but we really don't use the French word for "rape" to say kinda the same thing in French. At least I don't think I've ever heard it from a French gamer, but it has been a long time since I've played anything online in French and people who I LAN with are too nice to trash talk like that so I wouldn't really know :D
We probably have other offensive terms though. Do you people know if other languages use their equivalent of the word "rape" as a substitute to "win in an overwhelming fashion in a game"?

Nah I've heard it in french streams too but it's probably less common than in english, that's true.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 02:30:09
November 22 2014 02:29 GMT
#246
On November 22 2014 11:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 11:22 Djzapz wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:15 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:05 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
"Rape" is not a negative conotation in gaming and "nigga" is not a negative connotation in real life at least in alot of societies in the US. Proffessionals, specifically NBA and NFL players use "nigga" all the time. Kas knew he was far better than maddelisk and it was clearly a joke. Its definitely not worth a suspension. It should only be bannable offense if he were to use something more derogatory such as "pussy" or "faggot" in his tweets which is completely unacceptable. "Rape" is not really negative in gaming culture. Fragbite Masters admin were too harsh on this one.


White people don't say nigga. Gamers don't say "I'm gonna rape a girl".

are you being facetious? Both of those statements are demonstrably false

Are you completely disconnected from reality? You know that those statements are written as affirmations but they're actually basically guidelines or suggestions.

He's not saying that white people don't say nigga, he's saying that white people shouldn't much in the same way that gamers shouldn't say "I'm gonna rape a girl". You need to stop taking thing so literally =/

I don't understand the purpose of stating those statements like that, then, since what you just said has been said 100 times over.

Maybe he didn't read the rest of the thread. I don't really care, either way.

On November 22 2014 11:28 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 11:20 ZenithM wrote:
Thinking about it, that gamer slang problem seems to only apply to English. I could be wrong in this, but we really don't use the French word for "rape" to say kinda the same thing in French. At least I don't think I've ever heard it from a French gamer, but it has been a long time since I've played anything online in French and people who I LAN with are too nice to trash talk like that so I wouldn't really know :D
We probably have other offensive terms though. Do you people know if other languages use their equivalent of the word "rape" as a substitute to "win in an overwhelming fashion in a game"?

Nah I've heard it in french streams too but it's probably less common than in english, that's true.

What, "je t'ai violé"? Really? That'd be odd.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 22 2014 02:40 GMT
#247
On November 22 2014 11:29 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 11:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:22 Djzapz wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:15 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:05 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
"Rape" is not a negative conotation in gaming and "nigga" is not a negative connotation in real life at least in alot of societies in the US. Proffessionals, specifically NBA and NFL players use "nigga" all the time. Kas knew he was far better than maddelisk and it was clearly a joke. Its definitely not worth a suspension. It should only be bannable offense if he were to use something more derogatory such as "pussy" or "faggot" in his tweets which is completely unacceptable. "Rape" is not really negative in gaming culture. Fragbite Masters admin were too harsh on this one.


White people don't say nigga. Gamers don't say "I'm gonna rape a girl".

are you being facetious? Both of those statements are demonstrably false

Are you completely disconnected from reality? You know that those statements are written as affirmations but they're actually basically guidelines or suggestions.

He's not saying that white people don't say nigga, he's saying that white people shouldn't much in the same way that gamers shouldn't say "I'm gonna rape a girl". You need to stop taking thing so literally =/

I don't understand the purpose of stating those statements like that, then, since what you just said has been said 100 times over.

Maybe he didn't read the rest of the thread. I don't really care, either way.

Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 11:28 Boucot wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:20 ZenithM wrote:
Thinking about it, that gamer slang problem seems to only apply to English. I could be wrong in this, but we really don't use the French word for "rape" to say kinda the same thing in French. At least I don't think I've ever heard it from a French gamer, but it has been a long time since I've played anything online in French and people who I LAN with are too nice to trash talk like that so I wouldn't really know :D
We probably have other offensive terms though. Do you people know if other languages use their equivalent of the word "rape" as a substitute to "win in an overwhelming fashion in a game"?

Nah I've heard it in french streams too but it's probably less common than in english, that's true.

What, "je t'ai violé"? Really? That'd be odd.

No, more like a caster would say "il s'est fait complètement violer" when a player gets 2-0'd. But it's been a while since I have heard it for the last time.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
November 22 2014 02:43 GMT
#248
Man, Swedes are the most overly sensitive people on earth...
If you don't like it, you can quit.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
November 22 2014 02:51 GMT
#249
On November 22 2014 11:20 ZenithM wrote:
Do you people know if other languages use their equivalent of the word "rape" as a substitute to "win in an overwhelming fashion in a game"?


In Russian it is more used not the direct equivalent of the word "rape", but the equivalent of the word "fuck" (ебать).
Basically, there are two main words "ебать" (fuck) and "хуй" (cock), using only these two words you can speak Russian insult anyone anyhow.

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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 22 2014 02:52 GMT
#250
On November 22 2014 10:41 RuiBarbO wrote:
So is political correctness the best straw man argument or what?


Seems to be unfortunately.100% respect lost for Kas hope he never shows up in public again afaic. I'm not exaggerating, just have some standards for human behavior.
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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
November 22 2014 02:53 GMT
#251
On November 22 2014 11:52 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 10:41 RuiBarbO wrote:
So is political correctness the best straw man argument or what?


Seems to be unfortunately.100% respect lost for Kas hope he never shows up in public again afaic. I'm not exaggerating, just have some standards for human behavior.

That's going too far, Kas has apologized, in what seems to a very sincere manner.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46426 Posts
November 22 2014 02:55 GMT
#252
On November 22 2014 11:43 Iodem wrote:
Man, rape victims and people who are concerned with rape and rape culture are the most overly sensitive people on earth...


Fixed that for you.

Sometimes it's good to be sensitive about things.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 22 2014 02:56 GMT
#253
On November 22 2014 11:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 11:22 Djzapz wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:15 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:05 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
"Rape" is not a negative conotation in gaming and "nigga" is not a negative connotation in real life at least in alot of societies in the US. Proffessionals, specifically NBA and NFL players use "nigga" all the time. Kas knew he was far better than maddelisk and it was clearly a joke. Its definitely not worth a suspension. It should only be bannable offense if he were to use something more derogatory such as "pussy" or "faggot" in his tweets which is completely unacceptable. "Rape" is not really negative in gaming culture. Fragbite Masters admin were too harsh on this one.


White people don't say nigga. Gamers don't say "I'm gonna rape a girl".

are you being facetious? Both of those statements are demonstrably false

Are you completely disconnected from reality? You know that those statements are written as affirmations but they're actually basically guidelines or suggestions.

He's not saying that white people don't say nigga, he's saying that white people shouldn't much in the same way that gamers shouldn't say "I'm gonna rape a girl". You need to stop taking thing so literally =/

I don't understand the purpose of stating those statements like that, then, since what you just said has been said 100 times over.


I'm not sure if English is your first language or w/e but in that context I'm not literally saying "white people don't ever say nigga". I made the post in specific rebuttal to another post.
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
November 22 2014 03:00 GMT
#254
This is a prime example of why Twitter should be purged from the internet.
Don't be asshats
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
November 22 2014 03:01 GMT
#255
On November 22 2014 12:00 Roachu wrote:
This is a prime example of why Twitter should be purged from the internet.


because people are too stupid to not say things like these in public?
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Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
November 22 2014 03:03 GMT
#256
On November 22 2014 12:01 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 12:00 Roachu wrote:
This is a prime example of why Twitter should be purged from the internet.


because people are too stupid to not say things like these in public?

Yeah because Kas would say this in public. Don't pretend like an internet message board is the same as real life.
Don't be asshats
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 03:05:15
November 22 2014 03:04 GMT
#257
On November 22 2014 12:03 Roachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 12:01 graNite wrote:
On November 22 2014 12:00 Roachu wrote:
This is a prime example of why Twitter should be purged from the internet.


because people are too stupid to not say things like these in public?

Yeah because Kas would say this in public. Don't pretend like an internet message board is the same as real life.

Hey Roachu, 1990 wants its paradigm back. Twitter is as "public" as it gets.
Roachu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden692 Posts
November 22 2014 03:06 GMT
#258
On November 22 2014 12:04 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 12:03 Roachu wrote:
On November 22 2014 12:01 graNite wrote:
On November 22 2014 12:00 Roachu wrote:
This is a prime example of why Twitter should be purged from the internet.


because people are too stupid to not say things like these in public?

Yeah because Kas would say this in public. Don't pretend like an internet message board is the same as real life.

Hey Roachu, 1990 wants its paradigm back. Twitter is "public".

It's still a glorified message board. Unless you're new to the internet you would know the difference between posting a message on your computer compared to standing in a public square shouting. Give me a fucking break...
Don't be asshats
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2663 Posts
November 22 2014 03:07 GMT
#259
On November 22 2014 11:20 ZenithM wrote:
Thinking about it, that gamer slang problem seems to only apply to English. I could be wrong in this, but we really don't use the French word for "rape" to say kinda the same thing in French. At least I don't think I've ever heard it from a French gamer, but it has been a long time since I've played anything online in French and people who I LAN with are too nice to trash talk like that so I wouldn't really know :D
We probably have other offensive terms though. Do you people know if other languages use their equivalent of the word "rape" as a substitute to "win in an overwhelming fashion in a game"?


It doesn't happens in spanish either, at least in latinamerican casts, actually we're really mild in latinamerica, we barely say any bad words now that I think about it
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46426 Posts
November 22 2014 03:09 GMT
#260
On November 22 2014 12:03 Roachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 12:01 graNite wrote:
On November 22 2014 12:00 Roachu wrote:
This is a prime example of why Twitter should be purged from the internet.


because people are too stupid to not say things like these in public?

Yeah because Kas would say this in public. Don't pretend like an internet message board is the same as real life.


Welcome to 2014. Please don't think that writing something on social media is any different than saying it in real life. Twitter isn't even anonymous, so this is far from some random internet message board. You're in for a rude awakening when your future boss, company, or sponsor lets you go because of unfiltered social media statements.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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