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XPA
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany242 Posts
November 11 2014 14:28 GMT
#221
I played six TvTs on Akilon in the last two days. Five times my opponent goes for 8-8-8 (two times i went for the same build) then in the six game I scout no gas (yay!) just to find out that he has gone for proxy rax with Marines.
And I thought Akilon is one of the games were you maybe can play a macro game... But somehow these games are really funny at the Moment. But I don´t know if it will be funny in two weeks, when my only Macro games are always TvZ on Ohana and Shakuras.
duck.fit
Profile Joined October 2008
United States241 Posts
November 11 2014 14:33 GMT
#222
hah this should be fun...
kinda wish Planet S got another shot
Purple and red and yellow and on fire
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 11 2014 14:38 GMT
#223
Fun? At least zotac and go4sc2 remains with mappool from previous season. This idea with mappool voting looked promising, until we got it.
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
November 11 2014 15:30 GMT
#224
On November 11 2014 23:38 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Fun? At least zotac and go4sc2 remains with mappool from previous season. This idea with mappool voting looked promising, until we got it.

Yeah,blizzard should've let the masters+ players vote,not the B-S-G players who play with mouse only and qq constantly.
Courage is doing what you are afraid to do.There can be no courage if there is no fear.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
November 11 2014 17:28 GMT
#225
On November 11 2014 23:28 XPA wrote:
I played six TvTs on Akilon in the last two days. Five times my opponent goes for 8-8-8 (two times i went for the same build) then in the six game I scout no gas (yay!) just to find out that he has gone for proxy rax with Marines.
And I thought Akilon is one of the games were you maybe can play a macro game... But somehow these games are really funny at the Moment. But I don´t know if it will be funny in two weeks, when my only Macro games are always TvZ on Ohana and Shakuras.



Well there is obviously a tendency that goes like "oh old maps I m gonna cheese the crap out of them hrhrhrhr" but once they will be constantly countered these players will realize that they'll need to think a bit more than this...

(seriously having your opponent 8-8-8 in TvT is kinda a free win no?)
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
November 11 2014 18:42 GMT
#226
On November 12 2014 02:28 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 23:28 XPA wrote:
I played six TvTs on Akilon in the last two days. Five times my opponent goes for 8-8-8 (two times i went for the same build) then in the six game I scout no gas (yay!) just to find out that he has gone for proxy rax with Marines.
And I thought Akilon is one of the games were you maybe can play a macro game... But somehow these games are really funny at the Moment. But I don´t know if it will be funny in two weeks, when my only Macro games are always TvZ on Ohana and Shakuras.



Well there is obviously a tendency that goes like "oh old maps I m gonna cheese the crap out of them hrhrhrhr" but once they will be constantly countered these players will realize that they'll need to think a bit more than this...

(seriously having your opponent 8-8-8 in TvT is kinda a free win no?)


not at the lower leagues

i've been 8-8-8-8'ing and i've won most of my tvt ganes
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-11 19:00:36
November 11 2014 18:59 GMT
#227
On November 11 2014 23:26 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Now I realised that our dreampool is a trash which ruined ladder games with massive allins with almost no possibilties to macro* up just like the season before **

*But that's just not true, the chosen maps give you possibilities to play macro, even some of them where disliked for the amount of easily takeable bases they had (Akilon!), Cloud Kingdom, Daybreak, hell even Shakuras DO allow you to play macro games, the cheese you are facing is mostly because players ALWAYS cheese the most at the start of a new season because the meta hasn't adapted to the new maps.

** What? you had freaking Deadwing(!) in the map pool, Overgrowth, Catallena, Nimbus, even MerryGoRound DO allow you to play long games on them.
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 11 2014 19:30 GMT
#228
On November 12 2014 03:59 Uvantak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 23:26 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Now I realised that our dreampool is a trash which ruined ladder games with massive allins with almost no possibilties to macro* up just like the season before **

*But that's just not true, the chosen maps give you possibilities to play macro, even some of them where disliked for the amount of easily takeable bases they had (Akilon!), Cloud Kingdom, Daybreak, hell even Shakuras DO allow you to play macro games, the cheese you are facing is mostly because players ALWAYS cheese the most at the start of a new season because the meta hasn't adapted to the new maps.

** What? you had freaking Deadwing(!) in the map pool, Overgrowth, Catallena, Nimbus, even MerryGoRound DO allow you to play long games on them.


Deadwing allows u to play at least 4 bases easily, Shakuras gives me 2 bases PvZ allin and still its pretty hard to execute due to a single path at the middle of the map where i can easy get into a huge cancave

Interesting fact that I faced like 8 of 10 times Swarmhosts at PvZ, combined with current mappool makes me think that I'm going to play Heroes of the Storm till next season :D
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
XPA
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany242 Posts
November 11 2014 20:58 GMT
#229
On November 12 2014 02:28 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2014 23:28 XPA wrote:
I played six TvTs on Akilon in the last two days. Five times my opponent goes for 8-8-8 (two times i went for the same build) then in the six game I scout no gas (yay!) just to find out that he has gone for proxy rax with Marines.
And I thought Akilon is one of the games were you maybe can play a macro game... But somehow these games are really funny at the Moment. But I don´t know if it will be funny in two weeks, when my only Macro games are always TvZ on Ohana and Shakuras.



Well there is obviously a tendency that goes like "oh old maps I m gonna cheese the crap out of them hrhrhrhr" but once they will be constantly countered these players will realize that they'll need to think a bit more than this...

(seriously having your opponent 8-8-8 in TvT is kinda a free win no?)



I got myself into Masters on NA with only 8-8-8 in all matchups a while ago, macro play didn´t get me much higher (400 points more on EU), but people got better at defending over time.
But I have to admit i still lose against this like one out of ten times, when I fail with my micro.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 11 2014 21:12 GMT
#230
Shakuras has actually been fun! In PvZ I can just double expand to the closest spawn position and hold my MSC between natural and third, and overcharge appropriately. Then just spam colossi or HT, depending on how late in the day it is and how much APM I have available.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 11 2014 21:14 GMT
#231
On November 12 2014 04:30 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 03:59 Uvantak wrote:
On November 11 2014 23:26 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Now I realised that our dreampool is a trash which ruined ladder games with massive allins with almost no possibilties to macro* up just like the season before **

*But that's just not true, the chosen maps give you possibilities to play macro, even some of them where disliked for the amount of easily takeable bases they had (Akilon!), Cloud Kingdom, Daybreak, hell even Shakuras DO allow you to play macro games, the cheese you are facing is mostly because players ALWAYS cheese the most at the start of a new season because the meta hasn't adapted to the new maps.

** What? you had freaking Deadwing(!) in the map pool, Overgrowth, Catallena, Nimbus, even MerryGoRound DO allow you to play long games on them.


Deadwing allows u to play at least 4 bases easily, Shakuras gives me 2 bases PvZ allin and still its pretty hard to execute due to a single path at the middle of the map where i can easy get into a huge cancave

Interesting fact that I faced like 8 of 10 times Swarmhosts at PvZ, combined with current mappool makes me think that I'm going to play Heroes of the Storm till next season :D

Lately I've found myself using the warp prism more and more. Luckily in plat there's not a lot of people that protect their infestation pit.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
November 12 2014 00:49 GMT
#232
Tried a little bit. Well, I will probably not play this season. Such a bad idea to have one whole season like this.
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States766 Posts
November 12 2014 04:58 GMT
#233
Is anyone else getting cheesed EVERY SINGLE GAME???
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 05:03:05
November 12 2014 05:02 GMT
#234
Heavily enjoying the dreampool so far.

Except Akilon Wastes.
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 05:52:04
November 12 2014 05:51 GMT
#235
A waste of a season. Nothing else. The most stupid thing blizzard ever came up with.
I'm not having fun playing on ugly maps that are compeletely out of meta.
I have fun improving. Which is greatly limited atm.
I want my money back blizzard.
Less is more.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 12 2014 06:05 GMT
#236
On November 12 2014 13:58 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
Is anyone else getting cheesed EVERY SINGLE GAME???

Yeah it's a fucking cheesefest so far...and it's sad :/
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12909 Posts
November 12 2014 06:08 GMT
#237
Cheese are already nerfed compared to what they were.
At least there is the low ground destructable rocks and no warp in on high ground
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 12 2014 06:28 GMT
#238
On November 12 2014 14:51 insitelol wrote:
A waste of a season. Nothing else. The most stupid thing blizzard ever came up with.
I'm not having fun playing on ugly maps that are compeletely out of meta.
I have fun improving. Which is greatly limited atm.
I want my money back blizzard.

you want your money back for software you bought a year and a half ago because they temporarily changed the free online content you get with it?
TL+ Member
PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
November 12 2014 06:36 GMT
#239
I'm having a good time as Terran. Reactor hellion is still a good build, and other than auto-countering blink on Cloud Kingdom and going reaper expo into a stim timing on Metalopolis I can play vs. Protoss the same way. And TvT hasn't changed at all; it would have been hard for people to play more aggressively.
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
November 12 2014 06:44 GMT
#240
On November 12 2014 15:28 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 14:51 insitelol wrote:
A waste of a season. Nothing else. The most stupid thing blizzard ever came up with.
I'm not having fun playing on ugly maps that are compeletely out of meta.
I have fun improving. Which is greatly limited atm.
I want my money back blizzard.

you want your money back for software you bought a year and a half ago because they temporarily changed the free online content you get with it?

Exactly. Refund please.
Less is more.
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