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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
September 25 2014 19:09 GMT
#101
OMG TOP. Now if only you can get hyperdub!
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
September 25 2014 19:23 GMT
#102
On September 26 2014 03:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 03:45 Cluster__ wrote:
Not sure if anyone noticed this but regarding Invasion-- they're streaming now http://www.twitch.tv/invasionesport


They should stream a picture of their bank account balance


well done!

hopefully they don't disappoint!

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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
September 25 2014 19:24 GMT
#103
On September 26 2014 03:49 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:27 boxerfred wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:22 Invasion-eSport wrote:
As we said earlier we are a brand new team on the pro scene, as we can see there is a lot of question about our funding which we find it interesting people are more preoccupied by our funding than our project in the esport. So due to the high demand i'm going to answer (if there is more questions we will be happy to talk about it) we are currently and for the past 4 months funded by a family office. You are going to ask us what is their interest in investing in esport, there is first of all the taxes reason and there is also the fact that they found compatible one of the brand they are managing with esport.
The team is created in 2 division one is the community made to have fun to meet nice people, the second part is the pro section where only pros are recruited.
After long negotiations, we have reached an agreement to go to the next level and got the funds to be able to hire high quality players. We are also in talking to be able to make them come in Europe.
Our structure is based as an organisation with 1 president and 5 board members. Those people take all the decisions concerning the pro roaster, recruitment, budget and sponsors.
We are now 12 people working for this organisation (7 players and 5 staffs). The board and the staff is working for now 4 months (holidays were there so during summer not much work was done). Our designers are working on the logo, the new website, clothes, while others are taking care of the players (looking for their needs, tournaments, booking flights, accommodation, gears, etc) and one is responsible to write future articles and is responsible of the communication of the team.
We opened a have a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/invasionesport and a twitter https://twitter.com/InvEsport.

Maybe revise that post and add it to the op? Clears some things up, but not too many. "family funded for tax reasons" - can you explain that a bit further?

Azubu style tax dodging? or wait, was that money laundering they were suspected of?


Ya, that line is pretty sketchy since "family funded" has always been code for "no real backers" in the past.

Anyways, given how little Top / Noblelesse have been playing lately I don't think this is all that much risk for them anyways (not sure how active Tails has been / how long he's been off MVP).

They've been around long enough, I hope they did a bit of shopping about with this. For all we know they could be on the team as a, "hey look who we have on our roster," kind of thing. Start up teams always come with their own caveats, especially when they are claiming to be paying players.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 25 2014 19:27 GMT
#104
Oh boy... another weird french team. It's been a while. Virus, Mistral, Alt-Tab, e-Sahara, Eclypsia... It's sad that the smaller legit hardworking teams (aAa, Nuit Blanche, Punchline) don't get the funds and recognition they deserve after years and years of work. It's unfair that the teams from the first group are better known than the ones from the latter.

And now another one... I mean, I don't accuse Invasion e-Sport of anything but the way they enter the SC2 scene is ridiculously similar to what did Eclypsia, LYGF, apex and teams like that. And that didn't end well as we all know. Plus, the recruitments seem soooo random. Noblesse, TAiLS and TOP ? They're probably cheap but good luck to attract sponsors with these kind of players.

I'm tired of shady teams that appear from nowhere and I'm angrier every time there's a new one.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
September 25 2014 19:40 GMT
#105
On September 26 2014 04:27 Boucot wrote:
Oh boy... another weird french team.


Germany and France taking turns creating shady teams. Are you even trying, rest of the world?
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2255 Posts
September 25 2014 19:45 GMT
#106
This is probably really shady and not going to turn out well. These players are not good enough to win big tournaments and yet good enough to deserve decent contracts, and i dont see this team paying those without sponsors or anything or that form. Probably a rip-off
Cogito, ergo Toss
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 25 2014 19:58 GMT
#107
On September 26 2014 04:27 Boucot wrote:
Oh boy... another weird french team. It's been a while. Virus, Mistral, Alt-Tab, e-Sahara, Eclypsia... It's sad that the smaller legit hardworking teams (aAa, Nuit Blanche, Punchline) don't get the funds and recognition they deserve after years and years of work. It's unfair that the teams from the first group are better known than the ones from the latter.

And now another one... I mean, I don't accuse Invasion e-Sport of anything but the way they enter the SC2 scene is ridiculously similar to what did Eclypsia, LYGF, apex and teams like that. And that didn't end well as we all know. Plus, the recruitments seem soooo random. Noblesse, TAiLS and TOP ? They're probably cheap but good luck to attract sponsors with these kind of players.

I'm tired of shady teams that appear from nowhere and I'm angrier every time there's a new one.

just wait until they start a MMC :D
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 25 2014 20:01 GMT
#108
Top is still ACTIVE?
Someone call down the Thunder?
ProBell
Profile Joined May 2012
Thailand145 Posts
September 25 2014 20:06 GMT
#109
LOL Last time I heard from Top = very first seasons of GSL. Nice addition tho.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 25 2014 20:18 GMT
#110
So much cynicism in the community, and sadly not without good reason ;;

gl to Top and Invasion!
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 25 2014 20:25 GMT
#111
On September 26 2014 03:49 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:27 boxerfred wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:22 Invasion-eSport wrote:
As we said earlier we are a brand new team on the pro scene, as we can see there is a lot of question about our funding which we find it interesting people are more preoccupied by our funding than our project in the esport. So due to the high demand i'm going to answer (if there is more questions we will be happy to talk about it) we are currently and for the past 4 months funded by a family office. You are going to ask us what is their interest in investing in esport, there is first of all the taxes reason and there is also the fact that they found compatible one of the brand they are managing with esport.
The team is created in 2 division one is the community made to have fun to meet nice people, the second part is the pro section where only pros are recruited.
After long negotiations, we have reached an agreement to go to the next level and got the funds to be able to hire high quality players. We are also in talking to be able to make them come in Europe.
Our structure is based as an organisation with 1 president and 5 board members. Those people take all the decisions concerning the pro roaster, recruitment, budget and sponsors.
We are now 12 people working for this organisation (7 players and 5 staffs). The board and the staff is working for now 4 months (holidays were there so during summer not much work was done). Our designers are working on the logo, the new website, clothes, while others are taking care of the players (looking for their needs, tournaments, booking flights, accommodation, gears, etc) and one is responsible to write future articles and is responsible of the communication of the team.
We opened a have a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/invasionesport and a twitter https://twitter.com/InvEsport.

Maybe revise that post and add it to the op? Clears some things up, but not too many. "family funded for tax reasons" - can you explain that a bit further?

Azubu style tax dodging? or wait, was that money laundering they were suspected of?


Ya, that line is pretty sketchy since "family funded" has always been code for "no real backers" in the past.


Deimos didn't have real backers throughout its entire existence, but it was managed properly, didn't scam anyone, and made great content for the community before it disbanded under completely understandable circumstances. Invasion appears to be pretty much the same thing, just in French.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
September 25 2014 20:26 GMT
#112
On September 26 2014 05:25 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 03:49 Wuster wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:44 ThomasjServo wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:27 boxerfred wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:22 Invasion-eSport wrote:
As we said earlier we are a brand new team on the pro scene, as we can see there is a lot of question about our funding which we find it interesting people are more preoccupied by our funding than our project in the esport. So due to the high demand i'm going to answer (if there is more questions we will be happy to talk about it) we are currently and for the past 4 months funded by a family office. You are going to ask us what is their interest in investing in esport, there is first of all the taxes reason and there is also the fact that they found compatible one of the brand they are managing with esport.
The team is created in 2 division one is the community made to have fun to meet nice people, the second part is the pro section where only pros are recruited.
After long negotiations, we have reached an agreement to go to the next level and got the funds to be able to hire high quality players. We are also in talking to be able to make them come in Europe.
Our structure is based as an organisation with 1 president and 5 board members. Those people take all the decisions concerning the pro roaster, recruitment, budget and sponsors.
We are now 12 people working for this organisation (7 players and 5 staffs). The board and the staff is working for now 4 months (holidays were there so during summer not much work was done). Our designers are working on the logo, the new website, clothes, while others are taking care of the players (looking for their needs, tournaments, booking flights, accommodation, gears, etc) and one is responsible to write future articles and is responsible of the communication of the team.
We opened a have a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/invasionesport and a twitter https://twitter.com/InvEsport.

Maybe revise that post and add it to the op? Clears some things up, but not too many. "family funded for tax reasons" - can you explain that a bit further?

Azubu style tax dodging? or wait, was that money laundering they were suspected of?


Ya, that line is pretty sketchy since "family funded" has always been code for "no real backers" in the past.


Deimos didn't have real backers throughout its entire existence, but it was managed properly, didn't scam anyone, and made great content for the community before it disbanded under completely understandable circumstances. Invasion appears to be pretty much the same thing, just in French.

I think most people are perfectly happy to hope that's the case. Like I said, people just want to be sure, given how history has treated this kind of startup.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
September 25 2014 20:34 GMT
#113
And here we go again..."family funded sponsor", "to be announced soon" Ah c'mon...we heard that stuff before. Poor players though.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 25 2014 20:37 GMT
#114
ZUBUUUUUU
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 25 2014 21:02 GMT
#115
I'd like to be optimistic, but considering past experiences I wouldn't bet my life on this team lasting more than 6 months. I would love to be wrong though. Also, go TOP!
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
September 25 2014 21:08 GMT
#116
This has to be an organ collector or something..
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
September 25 2014 21:11 GMT
#117
Who joins a team like this that Noone has heard of and doesnt have it's website or mgmt in place yet? After the other fiascos recently? And since when is top alive ? So many questions..
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
MediKing
Profile Joined January 2014
United States153 Posts
September 25 2014 21:13 GMT
#118
This is really cool!!! Hopefully we can see TOP reach his former self one day. Congrats Invasion!! Treat em and grow em right
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
September 25 2014 21:17 GMT
#119
Funny that the team is so unknown the title of this post didn't even bother to mention the name of the team
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
September 25 2014 21:18 GMT
#120
On September 26 2014 01:22 Invasion-eSport wrote:
As we said earlier we are a brand new team on the pro scene, as we can see there is a lot of question about our funding which we find it interesting people are more preoccupied by our funding than our project in the esport. So due to the high demand i'm going to answer (if there is more questions we will be happy to talk about it) we are currently and for the past 4 months funded by a family office. You are going to ask us what is their interest in investing in esport, there is first of all the taxes reason and there is also the fact that they found compatible one of the brand they are managing with esport.
The team is created in 2 division one is the community made to have fun to meet nice people, the second part is the pro section where only pros are recruited.
After long negotiations, we have reached an agreement to go to the next level and got the funds to be able to hire high quality players. We are also in talking to be able to make them come in Europe.
Our structure is based as an organisation with 1 president and 5 board members. Those people take all the decisions concerning the pro roaster, recruitment, budget and sponsors.
We are now 12 people working for this organisation (7 players and 5 staffs). The board and the staff is working for now 4 months (holidays were there so during summer not much work was done). Our designers are working on the logo, the new website, clothes, while others are taking care of the players (looking for their needs, tournaments, booking flights, accommodation, gears, etc) and one is responsible to write future articles and is responsible of the communication of the team.
We opened a have a facebook page https://www.facebook.com/invasionesport and a twitter https://twitter.com/InvEsport.

We don't want to know your company structure, business plan, staff, or inner workings.

We want to know that the investors are not "private investors that wish to stay anonymous". In the past, we've witnessed many players get burned by teams whose private investors/owners have simply vanished without a goodbye, or teams mismanaged into the grave.

You must understand the ecosystem of this industry. We do not have a big organization monitoring the inner workings of the teams and players (i.e. NHL and NHLPA), so the community and fans need to do this ourselves.

When we hear of another team popping under the premise of a rich private investor that wants to invest into e-sports, but wishes to stay anonymous, well we put our guard up. The last thing we want in this budding industry is another team screwing over the progamers we have grown to love and appreciate.

This is a unique situation. We, the fans, have to be the watch dogs to ensure the SC2 community thrives. If we are not cautious, another shark will come and bite a chunk off, hoping to feed off this young industry.

What we want to know is, who are your investors? The brand you mentioned, in what way does it relate to this industry?

What are your long term goals? How large of a team are you willing to create? Are you going to invest into non-Korean players?

What specifically are the "tax reasons"? To be frank, I can interpret that as "money laundering".

I don't care so much how the company is run, I care about how legitimate are you, your team, and your investors.
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