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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 26 2014 13:26 GMT
#161
So this was it ? Can't watch at work
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 26 2014 13:39 GMT
#162
On September 26 2014 22:26 FFW_Rude wrote:
So this was it ? Can't watch at work


It was an hour long so I couldn't watch the entire thing to confirm, but it certainly looked familiar in the parts I went through. And I saw a nuke or two
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 26 2014 14:47 GMT
#163
I'll watch it tonight then thx
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
September 26 2014 15:54 GMT
#164
On September 26 2014 17:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 17:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On September 26 2014 16:57 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On September 26 2014 04:40 SinCitta wrote:
On September 26 2014 04:27 Boucot wrote:
Oh boy... another weird french team.


Germany and France taking turns creating shady teams. Are you even trying, rest of the world?

Dude Canadians have Quantic, that quite notably seriously fucked over Hyun. France may have more failed teams, but Canada has one of the worst failures so far in history.

Name another team that went away with a bigger bang than Quantic.

edit: However, if I am not mistaken, Quantic was being run by a French Canadian, so maybe we can take 50/50 credit for Quantic


Slayers ? And god I loved this team....

Slayers? I loved them also, but how can you compare Quantic and Slayers?


Well, the original question was "Which team went away with a bigger bang than Quantic?", and Slayers came to mind. Depends on what you call a big bang, but the one Slayers made was pretty damn big I'd say.
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 26 2014 17:25 GMT
#165
On September 26 2014 22:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 22:26 FFW_Rude wrote:
So this was it ? Can't watch at work


It was an hour long so I couldn't watch the entire thing to confirm, but it certainly looked familiar in the parts I went through. And I saw a nuke or two


From this point the next few minutes are the ones that everyone remembers the game for.

LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 26 2014 18:10 GMT
#166
If we want new teams and investment in sc2 we have to accept that the investors (and sponsors) will be taking a bet that might not work out. That this team has investors rather than sponsors behjnd it atm is not shady in and of itself; it just means some people are betting money they can make it work. If their bet fails, they didn't do the community wrong; in fact we should thank them. If anyone gets mad if their bet fails, the only issue is that you had false hopes as to the viability of SC2 business ventures. Considering the long term trend of sc2 viewership numbers, we should be kissing the feet of anyone willing to invest money and try to make their business sustainable. And having a couple Joe Schmoes on the forum grill them about their finances is not going to accomplish anything productive other than hopefully harden them to the ungrateful nature of the community.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
September 26 2014 19:31 GMT
#167
On September 27 2014 00:54 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 17:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On September 26 2014 17:17 Ragnarork wrote:
On September 26 2014 16:57 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On September 26 2014 04:40 SinCitta wrote:
On September 26 2014 04:27 Boucot wrote:
Oh boy... another weird french team.


Germany and France taking turns creating shady teams. Are you even trying, rest of the world?

Dude Canadians have Quantic, that quite notably seriously fucked over Hyun. France may have more failed teams, but Canada has one of the worst failures so far in history.

Name another team that went away with a bigger bang than Quantic.

edit: However, if I am not mistaken, Quantic was being run by a French Canadian, so maybe we can take 50/50 credit for Quantic


Slayers ? And god I loved this team....

Slayers? I loved them also, but how can you compare Quantic and Slayers?


Well, the original question was "Which team went away with a bigger bang than Quantic?", and Slayers came to mind. Depends on what you call a big bang, but the one Slayers made was pretty damn big I'd say.

Ah, I guess its just a matter of interpretation.

I should have used another term than "bigger bang", maybe "bigger mess".
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 26 2014 20:18 GMT
#168
The old guy is back! GSL Open forever
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 20:26:15
September 26 2014 20:25 GMT
#169
On September 27 2014 02:25 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 22:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 26 2014 22:26 FFW_Rude wrote:
So this was it ? Can't watch at work


It was an hour long so I couldn't watch the entire thing to confirm, but it certainly looked familiar in the parts I went through. And I saw a nuke or two


From this point the next few minutes are the ones that everyone remembers the game for.

http://youtu.be/SAv0XIxOZk4?t=58m6s


I miss best match (TvT)
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 20:51:58
September 26 2014 20:35 GMT
#170
On September 27 2014 03:10 Doodsmack wrote:
If we want new teams and investment in sc2 we have to accept that the investors (and sponsors) will be taking a bet that might not work out. That this team has investors rather than sponsors behjnd it atm is not shady in and of itself; it just means some people are betting money they can make it work. If their bet fails, they didn't do the community wrong; in fact we should thank them. If anyone gets mad if their bet fails, the only issue is that you had false hopes as to the viability of SC2 business ventures. Considering the long term trend of sc2 viewership numbers, we should be kissing the feet of anyone willing to invest money and try to make their business sustainable. And having a couple Joe Schmoes on the forum grill them about their finances is not going to accomplish anything productive other than hopefully harden them to the ungrateful nature of the community.

I agree its a gamble to invest into an SC2 team, and I don't want to see them fail. Far from it, I want to see every team achieve success, but Invasion's success is not a blind gamble dependant on random factors. Their success is dependant on themselves. Did they sign the right players? Is the team efficiently managed? Is the expectations of the board members reasonable?

And if they failed, I would show appreciation only if they tried earnestly, honestly, and with transparency. If they failed because they followed in the footsteps of Quantic and Alloy, well fuck them.

But I will not be "kissing the feet of anyone willing to invest money". Just because an organization throws some money at a few players, we need to grovel at them and thank them like beggars? Are we, the audience, that desperate to resort to grovelling appreciation? Fuck no! Sure the viewership is dismal, but that is no excuse to debase oneself.

And yes, giving them the 20 questions is counter-productive, but is asking a few questions about the company unreasonable? All I asked was to give us an introduction to who they are. I don't want to know their finances; see their ledgers; or speak to their accountants. I don't want to know who are the board members.

As well, perhaps before they forayed into the wild west SC2 esports scene, they should have done some research as to the state of this niche industry.

I will give them the benefit of the doubt, but I will not give them my trust. I will remain jaded and suspicious, until Invasion can prove otherwise.

edit: Will this thread, and the community's approach to new teams, harden Invasion? I don't care. If they can't take our questions, they don't deserve our attention. They should use this thread as feedback on how to approach the community, not as an indication of how we are ungrateful.

And please don't use the word "ungrateful". I am full of grate for people like TotalBiscuit and Alexander Garfield. These are the guys that know how to run a team and company.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
September 26 2014 21:06 GMT
#171
On September 26 2014 20:36 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 20:03 OtherWorld wrote:
Except mYi was funded by legit sponsors and not mysterious anonymous investors?


everyone questioned who the f "bison" were (and are :D)

Aren't they an IT company?
Rathwirt
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
September 27 2014 19:00 GMT
#172
I'm sorry this happened to you again, TOP.
NanakiSc2
Profile Joined January 2012
France30 Posts
September 27 2014 23:31 GMT
#173
♪ mi mi mi mi mi ♪


:D
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
September 28 2014 13:17 GMT
#174
I am confused, your team is funded by family for 'tax reasons'... but companies are only taxed on profits. Your company is taking a loss right now, so you would owe 0 taxes. Kind of ridiculous logic if you ask me
Terran it up.
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
September 30 2014 18:04 GMT
#175
ToToRo drops!

:D
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
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