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[Code S] Ro16 Group D Preview - Season 3

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[Code S] Ro16 Group D Preview - Season 3

Text byTrasko
Graphics byMeru
September 4th, 2014 17:03 GMT
2014 GSL Season 3

GSL Season Three
Code S



Group D Preview
soO, DongRaeGu, TRUE, Flash

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Group D:
And On the Seventh Day


by Trasko

The sheer amount of effort that goes into perfecting a StarCraft build is quite incredible. What differentiates a great StarCraft player from a good StarCraft player is often minuscule, yet key to victory: a split second decision, a perfectly executed timing, an incredible ability to read your opponent's next move. Failure is often caused by is real-life emotions along with your mindset going into the game. It's no coincidence Jaedong rarely showed emotion back in 2008-2009, around the time he was at his peak. In both his pre- and post-game interviews he insisted that as long as your mind was only focused on the game, you would achieve great things. Flash also showcased this sense of perfection at IEM Toronto. Not only did he bring out the ruler in order to set his keyboard, but he also perfectly executed his builds and reacted to what his opponents brought out.

What makes GSL and the WCS system so interesting is that both allocate long periods of time for their players to prepare. Some players excel at using these grace periods whilst others find it difficult. Naniwa was a great example of this. At the zenith of his career he would prepare a specific build for a weekend long tournament, stick with that build throughout the whole thing and dominate. He was also known for consistently being knocked out in the round of 32 in WCS EU; clearly this type of tournament structure was not his cup of tea.

By contrast, (Z)soO has proved he's more than capable of dealing with the GSL structure. He is the most successful zerg player in recent memory, being the only person to ever reach three consecutive GSL finals. That consistency is definitely no fluke but at the same time, folding under the sheer pressure so many times leaves an odd impression on soO’s legacy. After all, one would expect a bit more composure considering soO has been a professional since 2009. Despite remaining in top form soO won’t get a ticket to the quarterfinals by just showing up. He may be the only player in Group D with a realistic shot at Blizzcon, but 15th place is an awfully tenuous position at this time of the year. Such anxiety will only exacerbate how hard he’ll have to work to overcome Flash and TRUE. soO’s ubiquitous exposure may come back to bite him in the ass, as both aforementioned opponents are excellent at this preparation format. However, soO has SKT practice partners on his side and to be frank, we will likely see him move on to the next stage if he just continues to do what he does best.

It was no surprise (Z)DongRaeGu was the first player soO picked to be in his group. After dominantly defeating him in the round of 32, soO must be pretty confident that he’ll take the rematch as well. Although he has recovered from the harsh transition between Wings of Liberty and Heart of the Swarm, even sneaking in a couple of Ro8 finishes, DRG is nowhere close to his old prowess. Back in WoL DRG was a staple top zerg, winning 3 championships and 5 silver medals (and that’s only counting premier tournaments!). So far in HotS DRG has one major victory and two Ro16 appearances in six WCS seasons. It is unclear if his resurgence is imminent or likely at all, as he’s still looking rather shaky. Being a champion of the past is hard, especially from a time that seems rather bleak compared to today. Without a team to back him up, DRG will want to make this group count. Advancement to the next round could potentially be a selling point when advertising himself to future teams.

This will most likely be (Z)TRUE's last GSL. On August 25th, he announced his departure from Jin Air Green Wings and his desire to pursue his options overseas, perhaps participating in a different WCS region. This is, of course, presuming he finds a stable team that can support him. We've seen before how this type of transaction can play out. The pot will be further stirred as TRUE will be at Dreamhack Moscow in two weeks, giving the western scene a shot for the first time. Even though he made the semifinals last season, he will have a much more difficult run this time around. TRUE showed very impressive games against TY and Dear in the Ro32, yet Group D is one solely made up of past champions (or perpetual runner-ups in soO's case). Last season soO defeated TRUE in a relatively quick 4-1 series and if history repeats itself, TRUE might fall here as well. Being in the same pot as DRG, both of these two players have to put on their best game face and play like winners.

The round of 16 group selections proved to be a blessing for (T)Flash. Innovation had a chance to create the ultimate group of death if he selected the KT terran, decided to go with Stats instead. Flash ended up the last player to be assigned and showed a sign of relief as he walked over to Group D, chuckling to himself as his chances of advancement significantly increased. Fast forward a week and he looks like the biggest threat in the group. Conquering IEM Toronto capped off an incredible month for Flash, one that has catapulted his reputation from meandering BW legend to (arguably) best terran competing today. This list we showed in the power rank earlier this week says it all.

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Flash 1-0 (P)PartinG
(T)Flash 2-0 (Z)hitmaN
(T)Flash 2-1 (T)Reality
(T)Flash 2-1 (T)GuMiho
(T)Flash 2-0 (P)Dear
(T)Flash 2-1 (T)Maru
(T)Flash 2-0 (Z)soO
(T)Flash 2-0 (T)Sorry
(T)Flash 0-2 (P)Zest
(T)Flash 2-1 (P)Classic
(T)Flash 2-0 (P)herO[jOin]
(T)Flash 2-0 (P)Pigbaby
(T)Flash 2-0 (T)Dream
(T)Flash 2-0 (P)Zoun
(T)Flash 2-0 (Z)EffOrt
(T)Flash 2-1 (Z)Soulkey
(T)Flash 2-0 (Z)Dark
(T)Flash 2-0 (Z)Solar
(T)Flash 1-2 (P)MC
(T)Flash 2-0 (Z)Scarlett
(T)Flash 2-0 (P)MC
(T)Flash 3-2 (Z)Snute
(T)Flash 3-1 (T)TaeJa
(T)Flash 4-1 (P)Zest


Over the weekend, Flash showed something close to perfection. If you remember Flash at his peak, you likely got nostalgic watching him dominate opponent and opponent. His macro and micro were spot on, and he only lost one series against MC. That series was quickly redeemed as he later swept MC in the deciding match of the group stage. Only facing zerg players tonight, Flash doesn’t need to worry about shenanigans like proxy stargates. With his newfound love of the Thor/Hellbat composition, Flash’s TvZ style has become very strong against opponents that take bad engagements. Combined with his incredible mechanics, he managed to reverse-sweep Snute at IEM by baiting early busts that didn’t straight-up kill him. If Flash keeps up this surge of dominance, it will only be a matter of time before he claims his first GSL championship. Additionally, Flash’s chances of attending Blizzcon have become somewhat realistic following his IEM victory. If he were to win this GSL, it would put him around rank 9-10 with the current standings. 7 days after he started his IEM run, there's still work to be done.

Overall Thoughts and Predictions:
Seeing as Flash is on top of his game at the moment, and that it would be rather funny to see soO be the runner up for a fourth time, this prediction is pretty easy. There's little to suggest DRG has the ability to take out these opponents as he still has a lot to improve on, especially in ZvZ. TRUE is good and perhaps even deserves the benefit of the doubt, but personally I don't think he's 'great' as of yet. As said earlier the difference between a good and a great StarCraft player is small, but it's always the small things that end up being the key to victory.

soO > DRG
TRUE < Flash
soO < Flash
DRG < TRUE
soO > TRUE

(T)Flash and (Z)soO advance to the quarter finals.

Writers: Trasko.
Graphics: Meru.
Photo: GOMeXP.
Editor: CosmicSpiral.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 04 2014 17:04 GMT
#2
TRUE and Flash for best Ro8 bracket
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 17:06:40
September 04 2014 17:06 GMT
#3
An early GSL preview? It's like walking out of your house and meeting an unicorn.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 04 2014 17:07 GMT
#4
so hard to decide between all of the non DRG members of the group
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 04 2014 17:08 GMT
#5
TRUEjwa over soOjwa plz
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
September 04 2014 17:08 GMT
#6
I will most likely watch the groupplay tomorrow. Because of Flash.
Havent seen him play in a very long time.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
September 04 2014 17:10 GMT
#7
I have the feeling that DongRaeGu will advance.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 04 2014 17:10 GMT
#8
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.
Jaedong <3
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 17:11:04
September 04 2014 17:10 GMT
#9
On September 05 2014 02:06 CosmicSpiral wrote:
An early GSL preview? It's like walking out of your house and meeting an unicorn.


Hahah... The group isn't starting for another 15h 50mins. You should have held off for at least another 15 hours.
why?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 04 2014 17:10 GMT
#10
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


Maybe you weren't around when Sniper was
AdministratorBreak the chains
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 04 2014 17:11 GMT
#11
On September 05 2014 02:10 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


Maybe you weren't around when Sniper was


I was! and I stopped liking him after that Code S.
Jaedong <3
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 04 2014 17:13 GMT
#12
On September 05 2014 02:11 Trasko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:10 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


Maybe you weren't around when Sniper was


I was! and I stopped liking him after that Code S.


Then how dare you equate TRUE to him D:
AdministratorBreak the chains
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 04 2014 17:14 GMT
#13
The pot will be further stirred as as TRUE


Oops. My bad. :D
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 04 2014 17:15 GMT
#14
On September 05 2014 02:13 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:11 Trasko wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


Maybe you weren't around when Sniper was


I was! and I stopped liking him after that Code S.


Then how dare you equate TRUE to him D:


RorO works too. :D
Jaedong <3
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
September 04 2014 17:17 GMT
#15
On September 05 2014 02:04 Zealously wrote:
TRUE and Flash for best Ro8 bracket


Yup in that order please!
Don Jimbo
Profile Joined August 2014
70 Posts
September 04 2014 17:17 GMT
#16
SoO is definitely the best player in the group. It's difficult to pick the second best.
When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
September 04 2014 17:25 GMT
#17
*sigh* Not impressed with the write up on Flash in this one, can we get a real fanboy to do that part next time, nothing pisses me off more then an article that dosent properly hype Flash. (no sarcasm in this)
BW4LIFE
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 04 2014 17:28 GMT
#18
On September 05 2014 02:25 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
*sigh* Not impressed with the write up on Flash in this one, can we get a real fanboy to do that part next time, nothing pisses me off more then an article that dosent properly hype Flash. (no sarcasm in this)


Feel free to write your own preview if you feel like we didn't properly cover the things you think are interesting about your favorite player!
AdministratorBreak the chains
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
September 04 2014 17:34 GMT
#19
On September 05 2014 02:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:25 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
*sigh* Not impressed with the write up on Flash in this one, can we get a real fanboy to do that part next time, nothing pisses me off more then an article that dosent properly hype Flash. (no sarcasm in this)


Feel free to write your own preview if you feel like we didn't properly cover the things you think are interesting about your favorite player!


if only i could express in words my feelings sadly i was born with no such talents
BW4LIFE
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
September 04 2014 17:34 GMT
#20
Poor DRG :[
:3
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 04 2014 17:37 GMT
#21
On September 05 2014 02:34 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:28 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:25 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
*sigh* Not impressed with the write up on Flash in this one, can we get a real fanboy to do that part next time, nothing pisses me off more then an article that dosent properly hype Flash. (no sarcasm in this)


Feel free to write your own preview if you feel like we didn't properly cover the things you think are interesting about your favorite player!


if only i could express in words my feelings sadly i was born with no such talents


Tough luck, then. We've praised Flash an awful lot recently, and I'm pretty sure we'll be doing so after he advances tomorrow as well
AdministratorBreak the chains
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 04 2014 17:38 GMT
#22
Go Soo! 4th consecutive 2nd place would be amazing and dreadful at the same time.
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
September 04 2014 17:51 GMT
#23
On September 05 2014 02:37 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:34 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:28 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:25 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
*sigh* Not impressed with the write up on Flash in this one, can we get a real fanboy to do that part next time, nothing pisses me off more then an article that dosent properly hype Flash. (no sarcasm in this)


Feel free to write your own preview if you feel like we didn't properly cover the things you think are interesting about your favorite player!


if only i could express in words my feelings sadly i was born with no such talents


Tough luck, then. We've praised Flash an awful lot recently, and I'm pretty sure we'll be doing so after he advances tomorrow as well


no i agree, im just playing the part of overly annoying flash fanboy
BW4LIFE
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 04 2014 17:52 GMT
#24
On September 05 2014 02:51 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:37 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:34 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:28 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:25 CrayonPopChoa wrote:
*sigh* Not impressed with the write up on Flash in this one, can we get a real fanboy to do that part next time, nothing pisses me off more then an article that dosent properly hype Flash. (no sarcasm in this)


Feel free to write your own preview if you feel like we didn't properly cover the things you think are interesting about your favorite player!


if only i could express in words my feelings sadly i was born with no such talents


Tough luck, then. We've praised Flash an awful lot recently, and I'm pretty sure we'll be doing so after he advances tomorrow as well


no i agree, im just playing the part of overly annoying flash fanboy


That's the only kind of Flash fanboy!
AdministratorBreak the chains
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 04 2014 17:53 GMT
#25
On September 05 2014 02:38 Nirel wrote:
Go Soo! 4th consecutive 2nd place would be amazing and dreadful at the same time.


I think this would be the one of the most funny things to happen in StarCraft
Jaedong <3
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
September 04 2014 17:55 GMT
#26
On September 05 2014 02:13 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:11 Trasko wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


Maybe you weren't around when Sniper was


I was! and I stopped liking him after that Code S.


Then how dare you equate TRUE to him D:

yah Sniper is god compared to this scrub named true.
this is a quote
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 04 2014 18:07 GMT
#27
On September 05 2014 02:53 Trasko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:38 Nirel wrote:
Go Soo! 4th consecutive 2nd place would be amazing and dreadful at the same time.


I think this would be the one of the most funny things to happen in StarCraft

Unless you're Soo...
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 04 2014 18:09 GMT
#28
On September 05 2014 03:07 Nirel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:53 Trasko wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:38 Nirel wrote:
Go Soo! 4th consecutive 2nd place would be amazing and dreadful at the same time.


I think this would be the one of the most funny things to happen in StarCraft

Unless you're Soo...


no no no. That's when he laughs and says "I did this all on purpose" and eventually ends up winning Blizzcon and retires afterwards.
Jaedong <3
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 04 2014 18:17 GMT
#29
On September 05 2014 03:09 Trasko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 03:07 Nirel wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:53 Trasko wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:38 Nirel wrote:
Go Soo! 4th consecutive 2nd place would be amazing and dreadful at the same time.


I think this would be the one of the most funny things to happen in StarCraft

Unless you're Soo...


no no no. That's when he laughs and says "I did this all on purpose" and eventually ends up winning Blizzcon and retires afterwards.

lol maybe
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
September 04 2014 18:20 GMT
#30
Okay, so to clear things out; DRG is the only guy in this group with a GSL, and what about good players picking "easy" opponents, only to ultimately look real silly? Also, DRG cope extremely well with opponents that are on a tear(remember DRG - Innovation?)
Ultimately I think it is kinda faithless to disregard DRG in this group. It will definately be difficult, but nowhere near impossible. And I will look forward to seeing him not go 0-2 in matches.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
September 04 2014 18:34 GMT
#31
Guaranteed 2z, 3p, 2t in RO8, +1z or t. Seems nicely balanced.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 04 2014 18:38 GMT
#32
All signs point to it not happening, but for some reason I have a good feeling about DRG. soO and Flash both have good records against him and TRUE is just a strong ZvZ player. Furthermore, DRG has no team...still though I'm betting on the Dong.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 04 2014 18:40 GMT
#33
I'd be saying Teamless fighting, but this is GSL. soO doesn't lose GSLs until the finals.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 04 2014 18:46 GMT
#34
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


nuh uh! TRUE is actually fun to watch.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
September 04 2014 18:51 GMT
#35
This should be an easy one to bring home for Flash; he's on fire at the moment.

And he's got the best TvZ in the world.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 04 2014 19:23 GMT
#36
On September 05 2014 02:55 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:13 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:11 Trasko wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


Maybe you weren't around when Sniper was


I was! and I stopped liking him after that Code S.


Then how dare you equate TRUE to him D:

yah Sniper is god compared to this scrub named true.

Sniper won more GSLs than Jaedong, Flash, Jangbi, and Fantasy combined
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 04 2014 19:27 GMT
#37
On September 05 2014 04:23 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:55 goody153 wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:13 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:11 Trasko wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


Maybe you weren't around when Sniper was


I was! and I stopped liking him after that Code S.


Then how dare you equate TRUE to him D:

yah Sniper is god compared to this scrub named true.

Sniper won more GSLs than Jaedong, Flash, Jangbi, and Fantasy combined

Shit, that's so painful to read.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 04 2014 19:38 GMT
#38
On September 05 2014 04:23 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:55 goody153 wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:13 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:11 Trasko wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Zealously wrote:
On September 05 2014 02:10 Trasko wrote:
TRUE sucks guys. He's just another wanna-be Sniper.


Maybe you weren't around when Sniper was


I was! and I stopped liking him after that Code S.


Then how dare you equate TRUE to him D:

yah Sniper is god compared to this scrub named true.

Sniper won more GSLs than Jaedong, Flash, Jangbi, and Fantasy combined


If I had disposable income, I would give this post TL+.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
September 04 2014 19:43 GMT
#39
This group has the potential to be the most epic of the Ro16, but also to be the most boring depending on how well DRG and TRUE are going to play.

So I ll cheer for DRG cause if qualifies in first place, the loosers game and the deciding game will be crazy
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
September 04 2014 19:49 GMT
#40
Nani isnt good at the GSL structure?? All those Ro8 appearances would beg to differ...
Liquid Fighting
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 04 2014 19:51 GMT
#41
On September 05 2014 04:49 Survivor61316 wrote:
Nani isnt good at the GSL structure?? All those Ro8 appearances would beg to differ...


That was so 2012
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 04 2014 19:54 GMT
#42
On September 05 2014 04:49 Survivor61316 wrote:
Nani isnt good at the GSL structure?? All those Ro8 appearances would beg to differ...


To be fair, preparation doesn't really come into play until the Ro8, and he lost there both times (although he made it close).
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
September 04 2014 20:01 GMT
#43
I liked this writeup, especially since it predicted Flash winning.
Flash | Mvp
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
September 04 2014 20:13 GMT
#44
Flash plz
T P Z sagi
TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
September 04 2014 20:27 GMT
#45
On September 05 2014 04:49 Survivor61316 wrote:
Nani isnt good at the GSL structure?? All those Ro8 appearances would beg to differ...


T=Z=P>T=Z?
Are you kidding me?!?
More like
T>Z allllllll day son
Man, I miss how dominant seige tanks were in SC1. Wish they would bring that back in SC2
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
September 04 2014 20:43 GMT
#46
Poor Flash, to be in the same group as DongRaeGu
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odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
September 04 2014 20:43 GMT
#47
lets hope the predictions are on spot this time soon O_O
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 04 2014 21:07 GMT
#48
On September 05 2014 05:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Poor Flash, to be in the same group as DongRaeGu

The one person to say that haha.

Anyways go soO and TRUE! Please dismantle the Flash train!
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Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
September 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#49
DRG has dis.

DRG and Flash to the RO8.
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Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
September 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#50
Hoping on some insane DRG games, just like those gameas against innovation (?) where DRG suddenly looked amazing again.

I want DRG to win, but more than that I want DRG to play some amazing ZvT.
We know nothing.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 04 2014 21:41 GMT
#51
Flash soO finals please

Or not, I can't bare soO losing another one, nor Flash losing it
Refer to my post.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 04 2014 21:52 GMT
#52
This preview is hideously incorrect btw, drg is going to advance both first and second.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 04 2014 21:54 GMT
#53
Also flash vs drg better not be two 2 raxes, that would be such a let down.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 04 2014 22:10 GMT
#54
On September 05 2014 06:54 bo1b wrote:
Also flash vs drg better not be two 2 raxes, that would be such a let down.

I expect Innovation vs DRG quality.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 04 2014 22:21 GMT
#55
On September 05 2014 07:10 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 06:54 bo1b wrote:
Also flash vs drg better not be two 2 raxes, that would be such a let down.

I expect Innovation vs DRG quality.


Watch as Flash wins with 2 hellions + medivac drops.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 04 2014 22:23 GMT
#56
so much DRG hype for someone so easy. I expect DRG to finish last in this group
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 22:31:51
September 04 2014 22:31 GMT
#57
On September 05 2014 07:10 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 06:54 bo1b wrote:
Also flash vs drg better not be two 2 raxes, that would be such a let down.

I expect Innovation vs DRG quality.

this is to be expected, Flash and DRG produced beautiful games in pro league when they played each other (btw even if you think he sucks, you have to root for DRG as he is only non-KeSPA player in GSL. INnoVation does not count cause he is going back to KeSPA, if he was on acer, then power to him...but he left )
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
September 04 2014 22:32 GMT
#58
soO and TRUE Fighting!
Vasacast always in my <3
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
September 04 2014 22:43 GMT
#59
Come on DRG. I still believe!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
September 04 2014 22:51 GMT
#60
On September 05 2014 02:53 Trasko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 02:38 Nirel wrote:
Go Soo! 4th consecutive 2nd place would be amazing and dreadful at the same time.


I think this would be the one of the most funny things to happen in StarCraft


Funniest potential thing to happen this GSL would be Cure 3-1 Solar, 4-0 INno and 4-2 Rain. soO taking another 2nd would be, funnily enough, the 2nd funniest thing to potentially happen this GSL (in my opinion, at least).
Writermaru pls
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 04 2014 23:10 GMT
#61
On September 05 2014 07:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 07:10 The_Templar wrote:
On September 05 2014 06:54 bo1b wrote:
Also flash vs drg better not be two 2 raxes, that would be such a let down.

I expect Innovation vs DRG quality.


Watch as Flash wins with 2 hellions + medivac drops.

Nothing would be a more drg esque loss then losing to a marauder hellion push lol
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
September 04 2014 23:20 GMT
#62
I got a feeling Flash and TRUE will advance.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
TeamBanished
Profile Joined September 2011
United States301 Posts
September 04 2014 23:22 GMT
#63
Was hoping for a Flash vs TRUE grand final. So I hope they both get through.
For Aiur
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 04 2014 23:23 GMT
#64
On September 05 2014 07:23 Shellshock wrote:
so much DRG hype for someone so easy. I expect DRG to finish last in this group

The bait is real
Refer to my post.
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
September 04 2014 23:30 GMT
#65
DRG>Soo
Flash>True
DRG>Flash
Soo>True
Flash>Soo

I believe!
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
September 04 2014 23:31 GMT
#66
On September 05 2014 08:30 isaachukfan wrote:
DRG>Soo
Flash>True
DRG>Flash
Soo>True
Flash>Soo

I believe!

...I'll take it, DRG donger best donger
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 04 2014 23:36 GMT
#67
If Flash doesn't advance, I'll be very sad. I want to see how far he can go, but that has to be at least the finals :D
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
September 04 2014 23:49 GMT
#68
DRG and soo will advance.

i feel it in my balls.
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
September 05 2014 00:06 GMT
#69
DRG the last of a dying breed

I pray to the old gods and the new that he advances and shows some beautiful ZvT
For the Swarm * DRG *
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
September 05 2014 00:11 GMT
#70
Fuck I love drg and I'm keen to see flash desimate
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
cookiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Burma181 Posts
September 05 2014 00:46 GMT
#71
Thank you TL..
IM_MVP | DRG (<ゝω·)☆
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
September 05 2014 01:17 GMT
#72
Setting my alarm clock for 5AM to watch this!!
www.twitch.tv/jornada28 Master Protoss. Follow me on Twitter for SC2 Updates https://twitter.com/#!/elelvlent
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2014 02:02 GMT
#73
im surprised no one has reported this preview for blasphemy yet
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Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
September 05 2014 02:03 GMT
#74
DRG to cruise through in 1st. Expect a 0/1 ling all in vs soO.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 03:21:32
September 05 2014 02:52 GMT
#75
On September 05 2014 11:02 lichter wrote:
im surprised no one has reported this preview for blasphemy yet

Who ranks highest on the lichter scale and why is it drg?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 03:19:24
September 05 2014 03:09 GMT
#76
On September 05 2014 11:52 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 11:02 lichter wrote:
im surprised no one has reported this preview for blasphemy yet

Who ranks highest on the lichter scale and why is it drg?

Templar's adjusted scale of how much he likes certain progamers (Average score is probably about 4.5, maximum is 10)
Flash: 6.2
TRUE: 5.7
DRG: 5.5
soO: 4.9

Therefore, Flash and TRUE advance.
Edit: Why did I think Solar was in this group...
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Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
September 05 2014 03:18 GMT
#77
On September 05 2014 05:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Poor Flash, to be in the same group as DongRaeGu

IIRC, DRG didn't seem terribly happy once Innovation picked Stats.
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2014 03:21 GMT
#78
On September 05 2014 11:52 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 11:02 lichter wrote:
im surprised no one has reported this preview for blasphemy yet

Who ranks highest on the lichter scale and why is it drg?


1. TRUE is the handsomest motherfucker
2. soO got the most swag + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

3. Flash is ok
4. DRG is fat
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Dubag
Profile Joined March 2006
Australia82 Posts
September 05 2014 03:52 GMT
#79
The front page news headlines needs to change from 'Group C Preview' to Group D.

Looking forward to this, Flash and DRG and not a Protoss in sight. Probably be the 1st SC I've watched in over a year.
DRG | MC | Gumiho | Soulkey | Effort
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 05 2014 05:28 GMT
#80
On September 05 2014 02:06 CosmicSpiral wrote:
An early GSL preview? It's like walking out of your house and meeting an unicorn.

It's the Flash effect. Day9 even did an SC2 daily
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 05 2014 05:31 GMT
#81
On September 05 2014 12:21 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 11:52 bo1b wrote:
On September 05 2014 11:02 lichter wrote:
im surprised no one has reported this preview for blasphemy yet

Who ranks highest on the lichter scale and why is it drg?


1. TRUE is the handsomest motherfucker
2. soO got the most swag + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

3. Flash is ok
4. DRG is fat


I can actually agree with this. But all of these traits don't win you games
Jaedong <3
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 05 2014 06:24 GMT
#82
I have a feeling I'll just watch until the winner's match. The zergs all look the same to me. Once Flash 4-0s this group I don't need to bother anymore.
Meh
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
September 05 2014 06:34 GMT
#83
DRG makes it out first 4-0, always my prediction
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
September 05 2014 06:40 GMT
#84
omg my 2 favourite players playing today ;A;
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
September 05 2014 07:11 GMT
#85
Soo 4th 2nd place
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 07:18:16
September 05 2014 07:18 GMT
#86
FlaSh and soO!
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2014 07:21 GMT
#87
On September 05 2014 16:11 covetousrat wrote:
Soo 4th 2nd place


Stats vs soO finals, Stats wins GSL is the dream
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
September 05 2014 07:27 GMT
#88
True and Flash!
True because he still reminds me of JinAir a bit and makes me proud, Flash because he rapes nerds ezpz
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
September 05 2014 07:40 GMT
#89
On September 05 2014 16:21 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 16:11 covetousrat wrote:
Soo 4th 2nd place


Stats vs soO finals, Stats wins GSL is the dream


At this point, if I went into the finals vs soO, I'd go ahead and party and celebrate my championship in the days before the event.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 05 2014 08:27 GMT
#90
On September 05 2014 12:21 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 11:52 bo1b wrote:
On September 05 2014 11:02 lichter wrote:
im surprised no one has reported this preview for blasphemy yet

Who ranks highest on the lichter scale and why is it drg?


1. TRUE is the handsomest motherfucker
2. soO got the most swag + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

3. Flash is ok
4. DRG is fat

The worst lichter scale ever. You suck.
Efane
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation49 Posts
September 05 2014 13:01 GMT
#91
I feel kinda happy
And pray there is intelligent life somewhere out in space coz there is bugger all down here on Earth
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 05 2014 13:05 GMT
#92
On September 05 2014 22:01 Efane wrote:
I feel kinda happy

It's a little bit surprising yet fairly satisfying to see DRG move through! Good on him
Jaedong <3
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
September 05 2014 14:22 GMT
#93
On September 05 2014 05:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Poor Flash, to be in the same group as DongRaeGu

YESSS I fucking knew it! Am I MajOr 2.0???
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Zeriel
Profile Joined April 2014
4 Posts
September 05 2014 16:05 GMT
#94
On September 05 2014 22:05 Trasko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 22:01 Efane wrote:
I feel kinda happy

It's a little bit surprising yet fairly satisfying to see DRG move through! Good on him


I was recently saying in another thread that people really aren't giving DRG enough credit of late. He just won one of the Redbull tournaments against some serious names including Solar. I was a little worried he would flunk out here because DitzRaeGue, but damn, that series was amazing.

Really hoping he can bottle lightning and clown Innovation again. He did it once when Terran bio was at its height of insanity, so...
phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
September 05 2014 17:15 GMT
#95
Well that's good. Now Zest doesn't need to worry about if he needs to throw another final to help his friend out.
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
September 05 2014 17:29 GMT
#96
On September 06 2014 01:05 Zeriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 22:05 Trasko wrote:
On September 05 2014 22:01 Efane wrote:
I feel kinda happy

It's a little bit surprising yet fairly satisfying to see DRG move through! Good on him


I was recently saying in another thread that people really aren't giving DRG enough credit of late. He just won one of the Redbull tournaments against some serious names including Solar. I was a little worried he would flunk out here because DitzRaeGue, but damn, that series was amazing.

Really hoping he can bottle lightning and clown Innovation again. He did it once when Terran bio was at its height of insanity, so...

Meh
I saw his zvt against flash, not impressed one bit.

Especially game 2, flash fucked it up.
Game 3 was some idk, nothing spectacular from drg atleast..

You hype him up good tho.
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
September 06 2014 11:22 GMT
#97
With the kind of momentum he has right now, Rain is gonna win GSL Championship this season.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 06 2014 11:28 GMT
#98
Game 2 vs flash no one knows what would have happened lol, the only game we know drg outplayed flash involved a super sloppy game from both sides. idk atm I don't think he's going to win against innovation again, not without a serious overhaul.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 00:39:50
September 06 2014 20:59 GMT
#99
Holy mackerel DRG with 760 APM.

788..

[image loading]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 07 2014 04:41 GMT
#100
On September 07 2014 05:59 usethis2 wrote:
Holy mackerel DRG with 760 APM.

788..

[image loading]

While drg's mechanics are just about unmatched, thats more a case of building 50 zerglings straight after having 500 non spam apm (like creep spread or something)
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 12 2014 07:38 GMT
#101
How much APM does making 50 zerglings at once add? Out of curiosity.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 12 2014 09:05 GMT
#102
On September 12 2014 16:38 usethis2 wrote:
How much APM does making 50 zerglings at once add? Out of curiosity.

Hold down a button in a txt file for one minute and then count how many characters were made to see the apm that sort of thing sustains.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 12 2014 18:06 GMT
#103
Hmm.. so if only 50 zerglings are made in a given minute, that's 50 APM there? Of course I am aware that more of them are made in next larva cycles.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 12 2014 18:10 GMT
#104
On September 13 2014 03:06 usethis2 wrote:
Hmm.. so if only 50 zerglings are made in a given minute, that's 50 APM there? Of course I am aware that more of them are made in next larva cycles.

the thing is that SC2 doesn't calculate apm per minute, it looks more like it counts how many actions you did in the past 2 seconds or so and then multiplies by 30 to give you APM, so if you make 50 zerglings (which would be 25 actions, since zerglings are built in pairs) in 2 seconds just by holding the button then that would count as 750 APM if SC2 is counting it over the past 2 seconds like I suspect
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
September 12 2014 18:12 GMT
#105
^ - Assuming you meant 100 zerglings, 50 zergling eggs, yes, that would be a contribution of 50 apm.

I might add that while in SC2 just holding down z gives you insane apm, brood war had no such mechanic and JulyZerg hit 818apm http://pds7.egloos.com/pds/200805/10/51/f0038051_48258706320d1.png

Even with the 1.38 time difference that's still 601apm SC2 time, without holding down keys. So it's certainly not unheard of for players to spike that high even without button-holding mechanic.
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 12 2014 18:36 GMT
#106
That is two different interpretation and I don't know who is correct. Die4Ever says that the game will extrapolate APM from the zergling production and yubo56 says otherwise. Are you guys both sure?
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 18:47:57
September 12 2014 18:39 GMT
#107
I am guessing yubo56 is correct because obviously players do other things than making one type of units in games? I don't know for sure. Does the game "project" APM or does it calculate with what has been already done?

I guess I am going to test it out, yay. I don't play Zerg but I suppose it shouldn't be too hard!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 18:52:38
September 12 2014 18:49 GMT
#108
On September 13 2014 03:39 usethis2 wrote:
I am guessing yubo56 is correct because obviously players do other things than making one type of units in games? I don't know for sure. Does the game "project" APM or does it calculate with what has been already done?

I just think the current APM changes too fast in the game that it has to be extrapolated. Open up the game, build up a ton of larva and money, sit for a minute doing nothing (0 APM), then hold down z to build as many lings as you can. Open up the replay and watch your APM tab. Just watch how quickly the current APM adjusts to what you're currently doing.
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