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Code S - Flash and Solar last players to the Ro16

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August 21 2014 20:15 GMT
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_3/Code_S


It was a good day for fans of (T)Flash as he advanced to the round of 16 for the first time in nearly a year. (Z)Solar was the second man to advance, and despite having a rocky road there, dropping maps to both Dark and Avenge, in the end he proved himself the better player and joined Flash as the last player in one of the most stacked Ro16's the GSL has ever seen.

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The first game of the day was certainly the strangest with (Z)Solar facing off against (P)Avenge on Catallena. Avenge opted for a 7 gate phoenix attack that Solar held effortlessly with a force of roach hydra. With his back against the wall, Avenge decided to hide a 3rd while teching to colossus void ray. It looked good initially as he was able to break the contain holding him back and also harass Solar's economy with DT's. Solar's counter, a switch into muta corruptor and basetrade mode, caught Avenge off-guard and seemed to tilt him somewhat. Avenge decided to play along and went for a counter-attack, however he lost too much of his army by having it split off, and was unable to knock down extractors as fast as Solar was putting them up.
On Deadwing Avenge decided to go old school with a 3 gate off one base. The Samsung Zerg held well initially but was caught completely off guard by the dark templar transition. Solar counter-attacked but was unable to deal significant damage and had to tap out as DTs were ravaging his main.
Down to the wire, Avenge and Solar went for safer, standard openers on Overgrowth. Avenge chose to put on the heat with a 4 gate off two bases. It looked like Avenge was on the verge of breaking Solar, but when it became clear that the Samsung Zerg had stabilized, he transitioned into macro play with a third base and a forge. Avenge would still commit the fatal mistake of overstaying his welcome, losing half of his army. From there, Avenge would struggle to hold his 3rd for the rest of the game and, despite pulling some slick moves with a void ray snipe of Solar's gold base and a mass DT defense it was simply not enough as (Z)Solar took both the game and the series.

(T)Flash and (Z)Dark faced off on King Sejong in the second series of the day. Flash decided to cash in on his reputation as a compulsive macro player by going for cheese in the first game. While his double proxy rax wasn't scouted initially, good overlord placement spotted one of the building bunkers and allowed the SKT Zerg some reaction time. Dark canceled his gas and tried to overwhelm the rush with masses of lings, but he wasn't able to get a single bunker and tapped out immediately afterwards.
Down but not out Dark picked Overgrowth as his next map. The second time around Dark tried to take the initiative, first by trying to slow down the construction of Flash's CC with a 6 ling runby, and later on by transitioning into a big 1/1 roach attack. But with diligent scouting, Flash was able to preempt Dark by preparing perfectly, getting a siege tank on the back of triple CCs and double engineering bay macro. Dark quickly realized he couldn't break Flash, attempting to secure a late 3rd and transitioning into hydras and 2/2. Both players traded in the middle of the map a couple of times, however as Flash overextends and loses a big chunk of his army, Dark is allowed an opening to counter attack and gut the SCV line at the 3rd base. That is, without actually destroying the CC. With this blunder, Flash was given enough time to finish 3/3 and take a much better fight. Crushing the army of Dark outside his 4th base and then proceeds to destroy the reinforcing army and deny the gold base. Battered and broken Dark GG'd, sending (T)Flash into the winner's match.

(Z)Solar and (T)Flash kicked off the winner's match first game on Nimbus. Flash once again opened the series with aggression, mounting a scary marine/hellion attack backed by a medivac. To his credit, Solar did manage to hold the attack well enough to take a small lead due to Flash delaying his 3rd to make the attack work. However, the true capitalization on this advantage never really came, as both players were allowed to power up in peace, with Flash getting his 3rd and Solar his 4th. Soon enough, the players began trading in the middle of the map, where Flash's greater cost efficiency and unit retention trumped the 86 drone economy of Solar and allowed him to break the 4th of the Samsung Zerg. Solar tried to counter-attack with his mutalisks to force Flash back and allow his 5th to get up safely, but it was not to be. Flash once again traded brilliantly while slowly whittling down the muta count. Once the mutalisks were gone, he simply pushed to force the GG.
On Overgrowth Flash opted for another double proxy rax strategy (E/N: returning to the very roots of his success in Brood War with great results). However, his rax placement ended up squarely in the middle of of Solar's overlord scout. The Zerg, despite going for the direct counter, made the grave mistake of overextending with his lings before his speed could finish, allowing Flash to not only deny the nat but even setup a hard contain. Solar realized the situation he was in and GG'd out allowing (T)Flash to advance to the round of 16 in first place.

(P)Avenge went up against (Z)Dark in the loser's match, with the first game being on Nimbus. Dark decided to gamble and went for a early pool, however Avenge went forge expand and had a wall off in time, denying any damage. Realizing how behind he had fallen, Dark opted to go for swarm hosts and win the war of attrition via cost efficiency. This prompted Avenge to turn up the heat and he struck down Dark with a relentless flurry of zealot and dark templar runbys. After crippling the economy of his opponent Avenge simply weathered the storm as he maxed out and went for the finishing blow.
Dark picked Overgrowth as the next map. Avenge decided that he wanted to end the game early and loaded up his Soul Train. To his credit, Avenge did his best to sell the idea of him expanding, but Parting's teammate Dark had seen it all and prepared for the push. Avenge postured continuously in Dark's territory, trying to force a mistake out of Dark but to no avail. This prompted Avenge to retreat, get a 3rd base and continue teching while adding more units. Dark, despite being up in tech, maxed out on a useless roach army, against Avenge's perfect anti-roach composition. His hand forced, Dark went for two massive burrowed roach attacks, managing to score several probe kills as well as destroy the 3rd of Avenge, buying himself enough time to transition into a better unit composition, at which point Avenge repaid the favor with harassment of his own. Before Dark's imminent and hidden BL switch could destroy him, Avenge caught on and started his signature DT harassment, sowing chaos in Dark's ranks and buying enough time for himself to barely get out the proper units to defend the ensuing attack. One miraculous hold and a strong counterattack put Avenge in the lead, only for him to squander it by misreading the situation and overpreparing for ultralisks while Dark in fact supplementing them with BLs. Avenge's final defense was valiant but, despite holding on for some time, not enough.

With everything on the line Avenge chose Deadwing to lull Dark into a false sense of security while proxying two gateways to take advantage of it. With composure born of practice a hundred Protoss teammates, Dark reacted perfectly. Hiding the morphing of three defensive spinecrawlers, buying time with his drones while also sending lings across the map to deny the mining in Avenge's main. Without any mining Avenge could only all-in and commit, but with the defense already set up he was unable to break the spine defense and had to tap out.

The final match between (Z)Solar vs (Z)Dark started in explosive fashion on Deadwing, with Dark opting for a speedling bane attack against Solar's hatch first. Despite scouting it late Solar mounted the perfect defense, building two spines and 5 queens to hold off the flood of lings. Realizing how far behind he was, Dark feigned a transition into a macro game while pooling lings and preparing to go for a bigger bust. Solar caught wind of this attack just in time for him to reatreat to his newly built defensive wall. With all his banes detonated on the wall and roaches pouring out Dark's attack fell flat.
Down again a game once again, Dark took the series to his favorite map, Overgrowth. Despite differing openings, nothing eventful would happen until both players decided to take their 3rds. Solar opted for the gold while Dark went for the regular 3rd. Dark knew that he could hit a powerful timing by skipping some upgrades and striking before the gold could really kick in for Solar. Managing to get a superior concave in the eventual engagement, Dark could easily trash Solar's roaches and tie the series.
Down the the wire, Solar decided to change things up by taking a page out of Dark's book and going for a ling/bane attack on Nimbus. Solar manages to punish the hatch first of Dark by destroying the expansion but was pushed back just before he could end the game. Still far ahead, Solar used his momentum to take his own natural while droning heavily. Sitting firmly in the driver's seat, Solar never once dropped the pressure, constantly staying one step ahead of Dark in economy, tech and map control until he had a large enough lead that his attack simply crushed Dark and allowed him passage into the round of 16.

As far as individual leagues go this past year had not been kind for the man called God, as he had no good results in foreign tournaments and had struggled just to reach Code S up until 2014's final season. However, the month of August bore witness to the resurgence of Flash. He started out his crusade by successfully leading KT to victory over SKT, crushing PartinG and thus getting revenge on his Protoss rival. Afterwards Flash mounted one of the most impressive qualifier runs to date, defeating (T)Reality, (T)GuMiho, (P)Dear and (T)Maru in the Korean qualifier of IEM Toronto and slaying (Z)soO, (T)Sorry, (P)Classic, (P)herO and (P)Pigbaby, only dropping a series to his teammate, (P)Zest in the final Asian qualifier. Flash continued his crusade for glory in the KeSPA Cup qualifiers, defeating (T)Dream, (P)Zoun and (Z)EffOrt without dropping a single map before also slaying his old rival (Z)Soulkey. As he headed into this GSL group fans were eager, but cautious. Would (T)Flash's recent online success translate successfully to the offline stage? The answer was, perhaps long overdue, a resounding yes.

Important to note is that the popular GSL Group Selections will be returning for this season's Ro16, to air tomorrow on the normal timeslot.


Players in the Ro16 (16/16):
(P)sOs, (P)Stats, (P)Rain, (P)Zest, (P)PartinG
(Z)EffOrt, (Z)Soulkey, (Z)soO, (Z)DongRaeGu, (Z)TRUE, (Z)Solar
(T)Cure, (T)INnoVation, (T)Maru, (T)Reality, (T)Flash
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DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
August 21 2014 20:21 GMT
#2
Most balanced Ro16 in a long time (in terms of race)!
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
August 21 2014 20:23 GMT
#3
Super stacked Ro16
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Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
August 21 2014 20:25 GMT
#4
This group of 16 is great. My favorite players of all races. Great race distribution. The return of Innovation and DongRaeGu. The expectations to Flash (is this the time he will reach a finals or top 4?). And so different styles from the protoss players. I am really looking forward to this ! :D
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
August 21 2014 20:32 GMT
#5
Dude! Solar is a terran! holy shit TL, OP
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Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
August 21 2014 20:33 GMT
#6
Solar is listed in the Terran section for some reason
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 21 2014 20:34 GMT
#7
On August 22 2014 05:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
Dude! Solar is a terran! holy shit TL, OP


He told me he'd play Terran in the Ro16!
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
August 21 2014 20:39 GMT
#8
The RO16 roster is batshit insane.
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I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
113 Posts
August 21 2014 20:40 GMT
#9
An exciting Ro16
GaboMyung
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico4 Posts
August 21 2014 20:44 GMT
#10
Impressive, Flash is the only 1st place in this season advancing with a 4-0... Sorry Nietzsche but God is NOT dead
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 21 2014 21:01 GMT
#11
The number of tense changes in the Flash/Dark recap is painful.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
August 21 2014 21:03 GMT
#12
Very good recap of exciting games. The ro16 is mouth-watering !
spritzz
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada331 Posts
August 21 2014 21:06 GMT
#13
Pretty even RO16 racial distribution.

Also with regards to this group's result, close enough:
[image loading]
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Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
August 21 2014 21:09 GMT
#14
amazing games in the group today , sooo hyped for gsl this season!
Twine
Profile Joined June 2012
France246 Posts
August 21 2014 21:10 GMT
#15
4 letters:
OMFG

Seriously ? Any of these players could end up winning the whole thing that it wouldn't surprise me.
I have to root for flash tho ! GOGO FLASH !!!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 21 2014 21:15 GMT
#16
This Ro16 is pretty awesome
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 21 2014 21:25 GMT
#17
It will be amazing if flash wins iem, the kespa cup, gsl and blizzcon!! I'm hoping for that to happen!
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
August 21 2014 21:29 GMT
#18
Hadn't seen the first game of Avenge - Solar, just watched it on GOM eXP Youtube channel. It was sloppy, but God was it exciting. Highly recommended.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 21 2014 21:38 GMT
#19
Nice recap guys!
jyisvip
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada209 Posts
August 21 2014 21:38 GMT
#20
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 21:49:16
August 21 2014 21:48 GMT
#21
OMG... Effort, Soulkey, Flash, Rain, Maru, Innovation and Solar in Ro16! All players are really good like every group is group of Death.
This is going to be insane!
Only need Jaedong to fullfill my dream lineup.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
August 21 2014 21:50 GMT
#22
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.

Go Innovation and DRG!

I must admit, this Ro16 is probably the best there has ever been. I honestly think every group (except for maybe 1) will end up looking like a Group of Death. It's a shame Innovation hasn't been playing up to par recently. Fortunately Flash has really stepped up his game and is playing absolutely phenomenal. Would love to see Flash do well, because we all know he should!
SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
August 21 2014 22:03 GMT
#23
FLASH PLZ! Make it happen <3!
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 21 2014 22:10 GMT
#24
Flash played so well today. Makes me really glad to see.

I think the only one who disliked the group selections was Mr Chae. I wonder if he secretely wished that Parting hadn't advanced, so there wouldn't be an insane group of death again...

Also wonder what made him return the group selection system.
Flash | Mvp
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:16:37
August 21 2014 22:12 GMT
#25
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.

Are you counting Maru or Innovation? I'm assuming Inno but I ask because DRG and Maru are the only guys that were around before the switch (non-elephants)

Edit: nvm forgot parting lol
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 21 2014 22:16 GMT
#26
On August 22 2014 07:12 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.

Are you counting Maru or Innovation? I'm assuming Inno but I ask because DRG and Maru are the only guys that were around before the switch (non-elephants)

Parting was around too.
Flash | Mvp
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 21 2014 22:21 GMT
#27
On August 22 2014 07:12 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.

Are you counting Maru or Innovation? I'm assuming Inno but I ask because DRG and Maru are the only guys that were around before the switch (non-elephants)


poor Parting :p . Would be surprised if Kespa would have less spots. The organization controlling Korea with maybe around 80% of Korea Koreans under their flag should get those spots or they would be doing something wrong.
Taco87
Profile Joined February 2012
Norway72 Posts
August 21 2014 22:26 GMT
#28
Group A : Innovation, Flash, Maru and soO :D

Would be crazy !!
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
August 21 2014 22:32 GMT
#29
only one thing can derail flash now... the dreaded group selection stage
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
August 21 2014 22:34 GMT
#30
You know its stacked when you can picture every single one of the players as GSL champions (Not hard to do when a good chunk of them were already)
Shaoer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States60 Posts
August 21 2014 22:36 GMT
#31
Guys where can I find VODs to these matches?
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gneGne
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands697 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:47:33
August 21 2014 22:46 GMT
#32
This ro16 is insane... can't even name a "weaker" player.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10099 Posts
August 21 2014 23:14 GMT
#33
3 KT players in that lineup for RO16. BRING IT HOME KT :D
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
August 21 2014 23:14 GMT
#34
Flash just crushed this group, he has very solid results lately, I expect him to go far this season!

+ Show Spoiler +
2014-08-21 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–0 [image loading][image loading]Solar
2014-08-21 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–0 [image loading][image loading]Dark
2014-08-18 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–1 [image loading][image loading]Soulkey
2014-08-18 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–0 [image loading][image loading]EffOrt
2014-08-18 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–0 [image loading][image loading]Zoun
2014-08-18 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–0 [image loading][image loading]Dream
2014-08-12 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–0 [image loading][image loading]Pigbaby
2014-08-12 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–0 [image loading][image loading]herO
2014-08-12 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–1 [image loading][image loading]Classic
2014-08-12 Flash[image loading][image loading] 0–2 [image loading][image loading]Zest
2014-08-12 Flash[image loading][image loading] 2–0 [image loading][image loading]soO
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
August 21 2014 23:35 GMT
#35
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.


Who are not Kespa players in Ro16?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10667 Posts
August 21 2014 23:45 GMT
#36
Flash for the win!
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
August 21 2014 23:50 GMT
#37
I sort of wonder how many of the players from WCS EU or NA would have cracked the Ro16 for Code S in KR region
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 21 2014 23:54 GMT
#38
Wow Flash tore this group to shreds.
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Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
August 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#39
On August 22 2014 08:50 LighT. wrote:
I sort of wonder how many of the players from WCS EU or NA would have cracked the Ro16 for Code S in KR region

Maybe Jaedong when he is in shape and has a good day. Except for that I think none.
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worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
August 22 2014 00:38 GMT
#40
Flash just had to make it back to ro16 when group selections were back... hope people arent too mean to him this time... again...
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 22 2014 00:38 GMT
#41
Flash killed it. Geez he always looks so damn focused
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
August 22 2014 00:49 GMT
#42
Flash hypuuu!!!
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
August 22 2014 00:56 GMT
#43
Flash looked insane last night
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
August 22 2014 01:21 GMT
#44
On August 22 2014 07:36 Shaoer wrote:
Guys where can I find VODs to these matches?


You can watch the first game of each series on the GOM youtube page. https://www.youtube.com/user/exp/videos
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jyisvip
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada209 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 01:22:38
August 22 2014 01:21 GMT
#45
On August 22 2014 07:12 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.

Are you counting Maru or Innovation? I'm assuming Inno but I ask because DRG and Maru are the only guys that were around before the switch (non-elephants)

Edit: nvm forgot parting lol


Yeah that's true.. I was referring to Kespa players RIGHT now, so I was counting out DRG and Inno, but Inno is from STX while parting and maru werent' kespa before the switch. So I guess 3 non-Kespa with DRG.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
August 22 2014 01:44 GMT
#46
this is a really strong (and balanced!) round of 16. should be good times

also GROUP SELECTION SHOW HYPE
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
August 22 2014 02:14 GMT
#47
On August 22 2014 06:06 spritzz wrote:
Pretty even RO16 racial distribution.

Also with regards to this group's result, close enough:
[image loading]

hahahahah "Close enough" took me a while to get what you were referring to! Nice!
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
August 22 2014 02:40 GMT
#48
If you guys aren't following this season you're doing it wrong
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Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
August 22 2014 02:57 GMT
#49
God is back with a vengeance. Great balance too. Nice to not read the usual endless Code S posts complaining about the lack of Terran and how Protoss is OP.
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
August 22 2014 03:02 GMT
#50
Trying to be realistic in my expectations of Flash, but failing pretty hard. Although I'm annoyed he beat Parting, in Proleague, I really hope he wins Code S. Just such an amazing Broodwar player and often incredible in SC2 as well.

Go Flash!
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
August 22 2014 03:09 GMT
#51
What I'm seeing is a Flash that's learning how to dictate the metagame, which was arguably his scariest trait in Brood War days. From now on every zerg he faces is going be thinking "What if he's 2raxing?"
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
August 22 2014 03:17 GMT
#52
On August 22 2014 12:09 Gaskal wrote:
What I'm seeing is a Flash that's learning how to dictate the metagame, which was arguably his scariest trait in Brood War days. From now on every zerg he faces is going be thinking "What if he's 2raxing?"


Maru cheeses zerg, protoss, terran and always come out ahead.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
August 22 2014 03:34 GMT
#53
Flash is a legend, but today he just was outclassing anyone, very impressed and brand-new fan of Flash.
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
August 22 2014 04:13 GMT
#54
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.

The distinction is pretty irrelevant at this point, IMO.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 22 2014 05:34 GMT
#55
wow Flash finally made it past group stages!

... except there's another round of group stages
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styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
August 22 2014 05:40 GMT
#56
damn this GSL has to be the best in awhile, both in terms of players, and the race distribution. Can't wait till the Finals!
Ares[S2000] West Op AresClan 난 요환이가 한번은 우승할거라고 믿어!
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
August 22 2014 08:14 GMT
#57
Woah group selection back
Give us our snipe back - Ghost
nicknack
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia189 Posts
August 22 2014 08:28 GMT
#58
Flash rocked up, killed some nerds, flipped his table over and left, what a baller.
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
August 22 2014 08:53 GMT
#59
The last so balanced Code S was almost 2 years ago, when Life became champion, this is a good news again for the whole society. It's almost the middle of the season, but I'm already missing it, cause it's the last for this year.
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
August 22 2014 11:45 GMT
#60
Not the strongest group in this round but Flash made it through in 1st place. I have to say, despite losses and disappointments over the last couple years, this guy really is one of the best in the world. I know he still doesn't have a major win and he's nowhere near his dominant BW form but Flash is one player that I'm continually impressed with. I can't help but to be like the fanboys anticipating his first GSL championship. (never was a fan honestly) I don't know if he'll ever get it done but you can't help to keep your eye on him.
What we obtain too cheaply; we esteem too lightly. It is in dearness only that gives everything it's value.
DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 11:50:56
August 22 2014 11:50 GMT
#61
That balance *cough* thanks Blizz!

Almost any one of those players would be a worthy champion. I want Maru though as he held the banner up for all Terrans in the dark ages.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
August 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#62
Wow first GSL Ro16 I am interested in in a very long while, will watch!
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 12:44:04
August 22 2014 12:43 GMT
#63
On August 22 2014 13:13 Ryncol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.

The distinction is pretty irrelevant at this point, IMO.


It's still relevant IMO. Because when the big bw to sc2 switch happened nobody could really say if the bw players would actually taking over the top level sc2 scene (even if of course quite some expected it).

And slowly but surely we are witnessing that before the big switch we may haven't seen the highest stacked skill of sc2 so far.


PS: to the question 'who is not a kespa player' (meaning: who was commited to sc2 before the big switch)
--> only DRG, PartinG & Maru afaik
Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
August 22 2014 14:48 GMT
#64
Maru commited to sc2 what a surprise :p u want korean pple to strat playing at pro level before 13 years old?
DRG was a bw player but just not a good one
I remember more the war w3/bw players(grubbbyyy!!)


So glad that God has now time for wcs, final maru vs flash ?

Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2950 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 18:49:43
August 22 2014 18:44 GMT
#65
On August 22 2014 23:48 Cazimirbzh wrote:
Maru commited to sc2 what a surprise :p u want korean pple to strat playing at pro level before 13 years old?
DRG was a bw player but just not a good one
I remember more the war w3/bw players(grubbbyyy!!)


So glad that God has now time for wcs, final maru vs flash ?



Well... but how many of the current Top KeSPA-players were really top class BW-players? Serious question, because I didn't really follow the BW scene and only know the really famous players. And players like Cure seem rather young to be a former top class BW-player. :-P
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
August 22 2014 18:59 GMT
#66
On August 22 2014 21:43 odem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 13:13 Ryncol wrote:
On August 22 2014 06:38 jyisvip wrote:
Just realized 14/16 in GSL ro16 are Kespa players.

The distinction is pretty irrelevant at this point, IMO.


It's still relevant IMO. Because when the big bw to sc2 switch happened nobody could really say if the bw players would actually taking over the top level sc2 scene (even if of course quite some expected it).

And slowly but surely we are witnessing that before the big switch we may haven't seen the highest stacked skill of sc2 so far.


PS: to the question 'who is not a kespa player' (meaning: who was commited to sc2 before the big switch)
--> only DRG, PartinG & Maru afaik


It's not a fair comparison because the non-Kespa Korean teams are broke. Late WoL and early HoTs were more appropriate to compare to the sides and they were somewhat equal.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Loccstana
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States833 Posts
August 22 2014 19:02 GMT
#67
you do not beat god
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beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
August 22 2014 19:08 GMT
#68
Thanks for the interview.

I'll be honest, I haven't been keeping up with SC2 lately, but given Flash's hot streak, I plan to at least watch this GSL. Yes, I'm an avid Flash fan = O Anyway, I have a couple questions, if anyone would mind entertaining them...

Is SC2 progressing or regressing? Is the skill cap being raised? What basis is blizzard making balance changes on?

Is it worth getting started on the ladder this late? I didn't feel that the game was rewarding in 2011, last I played.

In regards to the interview, what kind of bashing is Parting participating in? At face value, I find it absurd that some average pro is shitting on flash, the best RTS player of all time.
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 23:13:35
August 22 2014 23:11 GMT
#69
That's a metric frick-ton-bunch of players I'd love to follow. Should be an incredible Code S. O.O

On August 23 2014 04:08 beachbeachy wrote:
Is it worth getting started on the ladder this late? I didn't feel that the game was rewarding in 2011, last I played.


I'm getting back onto Ladder lately. Never a dull moment on Ladder.

It depends completely on your interest in the game. Don't think about "rewards" via Ladder; play for pure fun. :-D
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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
August 23 2014 17:33 GMT
#70
Well... but how many of the current Top KeSPA-players were really top class BW-players?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players
and Cure is not really a top sc2 player^^ broken tvp helped him a lot that's the reason why we have so many terran in gsl

Is SC2 progressing or regressing? Is the skill cap being raised?
sc2 environnement is now quite stable, we're still waiting for some changes to improve the ability of the scene to make it to the new level^^

Is the skill cap being raised?
yes, pple in master league are supposed to know how to play after 4 years :p, BO and meta is more ez now that's settled.

What basis is blizzard making balance changes on?
broken tvp, some new units will be introduced with legacy of the voyd

Is it worth getting started on the ladder this late?
Ladder is for noobs with no friends or skills, dont go to NA there is no level here, however i dont understand what u meant by "rewarding"
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
August 23 2014 17:49 GMT
#71
@Cazimirbzh

Nothing wrong with ladder, that is the only comment you made that was a bit silly. It's a good way to get yourself started and learn the ropes and meet people, if you don't already have RL friends who play.

Additionally ladder is in fact good for practice if you don't have an established group to play with. Also very good for new players to play on, if ladder was totally useless no pro would ever get on it.
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Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 02:42:32
August 24 2014 02:38 GMT
#72
there are plenty of pple that can help you to pratice "adopt a noob" for example, a lot of of fun teams can be contacted trough bliizzard forum and i dont even count the numerous fanclub when u can meet tons of pple or even here :p

if you want to be good at sc2, you need first to have strong BO. If as a terran, you cannot keep scv production and are supplyblock often there is really no point in ladder^^ scrapbook / custom trainers(tl trainer :p ) are good tools. take 4m BO
Now that you have a strong BO and you can understand why do you're doing what you're doing (reaper vs cheesy, helion vs creep/ovepoprlings, mines and marines split to engage), u'll be able to adapt your BO according to the situation and what you scout, (produce tank vs roach 1A/speed, build ebay before racks if u scout late gas from zerg. and that for every MU^^
“Details make perfection, and perfection is not a detail.” LDV

My point is the only way to have a strong BO is to spam it.
"perfection is approachable through repetition" IAM

On ladder, u'll meet different races so every time you will drastically disrupt your mechanics and so your skills/mechanics will increase very slowly compared to what you can achieve by having to find only 3 pple (1 zerg 1 terran 1 protoss) and spend time to play with them and perhaps become friends.

But of course the choice is all yours

ps: NA is dead and KR is not the place where you'll meet the korean pros.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
August 24 2014 02:49 GMT
#73
Would (T)Flash's recent online success translate successfully to the offline stage?


Find out in the next exciting episode of Dragon Ball Z!
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