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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-05 00:25:26
July 05 2014 00:25 GMT
#41
Stork = I also feel that Blizzard doesn’t care about SC2. There were many things announced such as level up system and unit skins at the launch of Heart of the Swarm, but they haven’t developed anything new since then, or haven’t added much to the original system. Shortly after the release of Heart of the Swarm, Heroes of the Storm was announced and Hearthstone came out. I think SC2 is the only game that’s been pushed announced. I heard that the CEO’s most favorite game is StarCraft, but the treatment that it is currently receiving is the worst.


amen brother
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 05 2014 01:06 GMT
#42
On July 05 2014 09:21 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 08:55 Xiphos wrote:
On July 05 2014 08:52 ssxsilver wrote:
On July 05 2014 07:24 Xiphos wrote:
On July 05 2014 07:22 Superbanana wrote:
On July 05 2014 07:01 Xiphos wrote:
On July 05 2014 06:28 ssxsilver wrote:
On July 05 2014 06:03 xuanzue wrote:
A Stork = I also feel that Blizzard doesn’t care about SC2. There were many things announced such as level up system and unit skins at the launch of Heart of the Swarm, but they haven’t developed anything new since then, or haven’t added much to the original system. Shortly after the release of Heart of the Swarm, Heroes of the Storm was announced and Hearthstone came out. I think SC2 is the only game that’s been pushed announced. I heard that the CEO’s most favorite game is StarCraft, but the treatment that it is currently receiving is the worst.


blizzard in a nutshell

The "Blizzard doesn't care" mantra is a huge pet peeve of mine. You can criticize them for how they handled WCS, balance, Kespa/GOM, but don't parade that they don't care. SC2 is a huge charity case and if they were all about the $$$ then surely they'd pool all their resources into Hearthstone.


Then again, they've promised us that SC2 is a "ten years esport experiment" only to decrease their level of involvements after shit goes sour. Do they care about SC2? Absolutely! Do they care less about SC2! Definitely!

Maybe they aimed for more but the partial result for the experiment was evaluated as an sucess. They are trying to implement esports for both Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm after all.


But is it helping SC2 in any way? I think we all know the answer to that one.

If you have a utilitarian outlook, it's pretty dumb of them to even invest in the scene when they have bigger IPs/cash cows. So again, how does splitting resources onto other games equate to them not giving two shits about Starcraft?


On July 05 2014 06:28 ssxsilver wrote:
On July 05 2014 06:03 xuanzue wrote:
A Stork = I also feel that Blizzard doesn’t care about SC2. There were many things announced such as level up system and unit skins at the launch of Heart of the Swarm, but they haven’t developed anything new since then, or haven’t added much to the original system. Shortly after the release of Heart of the Swarm, Heroes of the Storm was announced and Hearthstone came out. I think SC2 is the only game that’s been pushed announced. I heard that the CEO’s most favorite game is StarCraft, but the treatment that it is currently receiving is the worst.


blizzard in a nutshell

The "Blizzard doesn't care" mantra is a huge pet peeve of mine. You can criticize them for how they handled WCS, balance, Kespa/GOM, but don't parade that they don't care. SC2 is a huge charity case and if they were all about the $$$ then surely they'd pool all their resources into Hearthstone.


Then again, they've promised us that SC2 is a "ten years esport experiment" only to decrease their level of involvements after shit goes sour. Do they care about SC2? Absolutely! Do they care less about SC2! Definitely!

If you want to get into semantics then Stork's original quote doesn't make the distinction ("less"), nor do the few people who've quoted it or the redditors who quote that one line and upvote it. Then there's the countless times this diatribe been repeated.


Then, I've never fully agreed with him.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 05 2014 01:27 GMT
#43
It might be the CEO's favorite game but it doesn't mean it's their money generator and at the end of the day it's all about the money. They've said it a hundred times and one of the reasons they still do RTS games is because it's a tribute.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12384 Posts
July 05 2014 02:06 GMT
#44
nice interview, I can see many bw fans are upset at stork stating sc2 is as fun as bw. haha
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 05 2014 03:31 GMT
#45
"I would like it more if I’m not his opponent in the finals when he wins" -Flash

LOL. Good interview overall. Seems like they recognize the problem facing SCII and I don't think having more K-pop will attract attention lol. Best way is to make the game more fun to play such as adding an OP unit for each race that balance each other out and reward micro at the same time. Other than that, free to play is also not a bad idea at all if they want the game to spread but I can't see Blizzard doing that until after LoTV is out at min.

On July 05 2014 11:06 ETisME wrote:
nice interview, I can see many bw fans are upset at stork stating sc2 is as fun as bw. haha

to each his own
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elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
July 05 2014 03:52 GMT
#46
Flash looks so gay in this picture LOL. That gesture.

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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 05 2014 04:00 GMT
#47
Really Stork ? More K-pop girl group ? That's your solution ?
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 05 2014 04:07 GMT
#48
On July 05 2014 13:00 Noocta wrote:
Really Stork ? More K-pop girl group ? That's your solution ?


Its the last resort to make SC2 more popular in Korea.
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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
July 05 2014 04:36 GMT
#49
I like their honest answers, even though they seem to picture a grim future for SC2. That seems to be the truth and we can only hope to prolong it as much as possible.
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McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
July 05 2014 07:31 GMT
#50
I actually belive that bringing K-pop girls has some semblence of reason. Why? The popularity of girl groups, boybands and idols in Korea is so massive that it would without fail give SC2 gigatic exposure due to the sheer amount of new eyeballs watching the event.
That's why girl groups themselves mean nothing. It's what hey bring to the table and that is a potential new fanbase orders of magnitudes bigger that Starctaft's
LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
July 05 2014 08:34 GMT
#51
I hope Avilo gets some good return one of these days. Seems like Koreans say the same thing in sc2 why mech is weak atm. Love flash and his style.
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
July 05 2014 08:48 GMT
#52
Nice interview, it's cute to imagine them cheering for each other in individual leagues
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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
July 05 2014 09:52 GMT
#53
On July 05 2014 06:28 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 06:03 xuanzue wrote:
A Stork = I also feel that Blizzard doesn’t care about SC2. There were many things announced such as level up system and unit skins at the launch of Heart of the Swarm, but they haven’t developed anything new since then, or haven’t added much to the original system. Shortly after the release of Heart of the Swarm, Heroes of the Storm was announced and Hearthstone came out. I think SC2 is the only game that’s been pushed announced. I heard that the CEO’s most favorite game is StarCraft, but the treatment that it is currently receiving is the worst.


blizzard in a nutshell

The "Blizzard doesn't care" mantra is a huge pet peeve of mine. You can criticize them for how they handled WCS, balance, Kespa/GOM, but don't parade that they don't care. SC2 is a huge charity case and if they were all about the $$$ then surely they'd pool all their resources into Hearthstone.


was wcs badly handled? yeah, but not that much

and the balance issues are more a map problem IMO. I disagree with you , and gonna say that balance seems to be like the unique area where blizzard cares. They bring a balance patch every 4 months!. On the other hand they don't bring any kind of patch to improve the gameplay, interface, performance.

DOTA had 4 patches improving the fps of the game in the las year, for any pc, with any video card. if anyone has one patch of blizzard saying they improved the performance of the game please link me it.

blizzard could improve the spectator experience, to the best example like dotatv, but here we are, 2 years later after the TI2 with dotatv and blizzard simply doesn't care about this. blizzard brought some few things in the release of hots, and then, they simply say "not my job". the day they add this will be too late.

http://www.stormcraft.com/en/news/19275-dustin-browder-confirms-lost-vikings

StormCraft: From what I know Heroes of the Storm and StarCraft II use the same engine, right? Does this mean that a similar feature could be added to StarCraft II?

Dustin: I cannot promise you when that will happen, but yes – it definitely enables that feature. It would have to be developed, though, and currently nobody is working on it.


blizzard acts pretty slow if compared with valve / riot. in terms of improve the game. this is an armsrace and blizzard doesn't care.
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laaaaaaaamee
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia95 Posts
July 05 2014 10:11 GMT
#54
Stork is right guys, Qualifying through Korean qualifyers is indeed similar to a camel passing through the eye of the needle

This was a great post, seeing the greats in flash and stork say that they care for sc2 alot, immediately makes me care more aswell
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
July 05 2014 10:39 GMT
#55
Great interview. I think Stork is a tad bit reaching with needing K-POP girls to improve SC2's popularity in Korea. But desperate times for for desperate measures I figure. It could work, but the SC2 boom basically ended around early 2012 after 2011 being such a peak year and we'll probably see even levels of it now. LotV will bring interest back, and after several months it will wane yet again since Blizzard just doesn't give SC2 the care it deserves.

As for Flash, it kind of concerns me that he just wants to gut through his wrist issues again. I think he may be on borrowed time, he could always go for another surgery in the future. But even though it's a different condition, I hope it doesn't dehabilitate him so much it's gets as painful as MVP's own injury. I'm not saying Flash should just retire when his wrist pains get too bad, but it may be for the best in the end.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
July 05 2014 12:14 GMT
#56
the end is near... RIP SC2 on 2018
i honestly believe that sc2 nowadays are bland...
lots of hype but no impact...
storylines are lack luster...

i cant only blame blizzard on this...
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
July 05 2014 12:33 GMT
#57
On July 05 2014 13:00 Noocta wrote:
Really Stork ? More K-pop girl group ? That's your solution ?


Since the community and the players can't make core design changes to the game, yes it is.
rly ?
Yora
Profile Joined March 2013
United States35 Posts
July 05 2014 13:17 GMT
#58
On July 05 2014 21:14 riyanme wrote:
the end is near... RIP SC2 on 2018
i honestly believe that sc2 nowadays are bland...
lots of hype but no impact...
storylines are lack luster...

i cant only blame blizzard on this...


Yeahh I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I could be off in my opinion but I think the biggest part of what makes SC2 lackluster to watch is how much easier they actually made the game to play.

With a standard amount of practice, players can reach near-perfect macro, max out very quickly, and utilize that maxed out army in as few as 1 control groups. This is why I think the game is so stagnant, it's made so much harder to shine in.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-05 13:31:53
July 05 2014 13:31 GMT
#59
So fashionaburu.

Edit: Flash that is.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 05 2014 14:04 GMT
#60
good interview

gl sc2
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