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WCS Replay Pack Released w/ Visual Builds

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Kibbelz
Profile Joined March 2012
United States31 Posts
May 16 2014 19:17 GMT
#1
Hey TeamLiquid!

This is just a pretty simple message to let you know we've published a Replay Pack that includes WCS Season 1, and last season's Global Finals. In addition, we've created some Visual Builds to help break the ice and let you try some pro-builds right away!

We're also totally interested in your feedback, whether it addresses the replays themselves or the visuals we've accompanied them with. Thanks for always being so great, and I'll get back to my lurking now

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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
May 16 2014 19:34 GMT
#2
Worth the wait? Worth the wait, the visuals are awesome!
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Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
May 16 2014 19:37 GMT
#3
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[
Progamer
WiggyB
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom103 Posts
May 16 2014 19:53 GMT
#4
Awesome
Ever noticed you can type "Starcraft" with just your keyboard hand?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 16 2014 20:00 GMT
#5
Cool beans!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
May 17 2014 01:17 GMT
#6
wow thats a lot of content! awesome
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Defessus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States164 Posts
May 17 2014 01:21 GMT
#7
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[


I think if people are practicing and improving with these builds, it is worth it.
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
May 17 2014 01:29 GMT
#8
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

What do they need to do differently in order to explain them correctly?
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 01:32:32
May 17 2014 01:31 GMT
#9
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

ppl will figure with time you know learning by doing
great stuff guys, thanks for that
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 01:39:50
May 17 2014 01:38 GMT
#10
is there something wrong with Zest's +1 zealot??
Forge, Cannon, Gateway, Pylon and THEN nexus? wtf
Or is this cannon rush into macro xD

+ Show Spoiler +
or am i just really stupid
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 17 2014 01:53 GMT
#11
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

Thanks for taking the time to correctly explain it. Oh wait.
Refer to my post.
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
May 17 2014 01:57 GMT
#12
On May 17 2014 10:53 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

Thanks for taking the time to correctly explain it. Oh wait.

not my job? lol u go ahead and do that but when u die to a single oracle you will see why
Progamer
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
May 17 2014 03:14 GMT
#13
It is a basic visual guide for a build. Not a full on TL strat guide that does the same thing, then goes on about all the if statements. If you that much about it, maybe recommend to add a few words about the Oracle timing. Visual guide isn't meant to show every possible disruption and counter.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
May 17 2014 04:12 GMT
#14
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[


To be fair that's often a normal response when an oracle enters the base even if you do have some marines nearby.
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Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
May 17 2014 05:51 GMT
#15
Yeah, I don't think they're really meant to be incredibly detailed, perfect build orders/guides and stuff. Just seems like a nice thing that Blizzard included with the replays, to get a general idea about the builds used in the matches. It's hard to really account for everything in a visual like that.
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
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vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
May 17 2014 06:55 GMT
#16
Like the fact that you give the replays, but I love, absolutely love, the visual build orders.
As a casual player and avid watcher I'm inspired to play!
It's fantastic, guys. More, please
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Creo
Profile Joined January 2013
France5 Posts
May 17 2014 10:55 GMT
#17
We clearly need more of that type of graphics!! Great job and thanks for the replays!
QuietEnvoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Portugal21 Posts
May 17 2014 12:48 GMT
#18
Blizzard is a surprising company. Well Done.
Cortza
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa328 Posts
May 17 2014 12:54 GMT
#19
Nice to have some input from blizzard at this level. Thanks.
Axxis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States133 Posts
May 17 2014 13:05 GMT
#20
This is awesome! It's all organized and labeled as well. I already had a few of these but this was great. I hope they do this more often.
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Psione
Profile Joined March 2014
United States45 Posts
May 17 2014 15:07 GMT
#21
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

Hey Major! If you have any feedback on ways we can improve these to make them more clear or useful, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Feel free to message me or Kibbelz if you have any specific points you'd like share.
Community Manager - StarCraft II - Twitter: @PsioneBlizzard
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 16:52:16
May 17 2014 16:48 GMT
#22
On May 17 2014 10:57 MajOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 10:53 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

Thanks for taking the time to correctly explain it. Oh wait.

not my job? lol u go ahead and do that but when u die to a single oracle you will see why


It is really easy to find a thousand people who can tell you what is wrong with the world. But incredibly hard to find one person who will help you fix it.

You coming here and saying that isn't anything special Major, it is the normal course of action of cynics, pessimists and naysayers. You helping him would be.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
May 17 2014 16:59 GMT
#23
I second some of the concerns with the build orders; even when cannon rushing you aren't supposed to go forge/cannon/gate/nexus, which is just a horrible build all around (easily updated with actual openings, see the PvZ guide we wrote last year). Other than that, nice job
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
May 17 2014 19:27 GMT
#24
I think the visual presentations are nifty! I'm going to build 9,000 roaches now vs P, T and Z! Watch it!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
May 18 2014 08:30 GMT
#25
so the build orders listed are not the same as the ones in the actual games?


am dling now but cant imagine the first one i look at will be a good example
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
May 18 2014 10:19 GMT
#26
I don't know wether they are, but if Zest when forge/cannon/gate/pylon/nexus then it's definitely not a standard build so i wouldn't follow that part. Other than that, at least the PvZ one looks cool. The TvP build is also reasonable but as Iaguz and Major pointed out it's not the best idea to move out blindly because of protoss early game tech (dt's/oracles etc).
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
-HuShang-
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada393 Posts
May 18 2014 14:59 GMT
#27
Im pretty sure they made the builds for bronze players/new players to the game. Overly safe forge expand guide isnt the worst thing ever? If they're in a higher league they probably know about team liquid anyway and can find real guides.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 18 2014 16:19 GMT
#28
Really cool, thanks a lot .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
WiggyB
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 00:35:12
May 19 2014 00:29 GMT
#29
On May 18 2014 00:07 Psione wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 04:37 MajOr wrote:
but your builds arent even correctly explained :[ ppl gonna be real mad whe nthey move out at 7.15 and 1 oracle flys in and kill em :[

Hey Major! If you have any feedback on ways we can improve these to make them more clear or useful, we'd love to hear your thoughts. Feel free to message me or Kibbelz if you have any specific points you'd like share.


I love how major got a well written, polite response to that complete molestation of the English language.

Naughty troll major!

I think you guys are reading to much into these pictures. They are nice BTW. These are clearly designed as a rough guide for newer players.
Head over to imba builds. They have at least two pages of writing for one build order. How are you going to fit all that into one picture?
These are quite nice I think, my friend is just starting starcraft (after years of telling him red alert is shit and starcraft is way better) I'll be giving him these.
Ever noticed you can type "Starcraft" with just your keyboard hand?
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
May 19 2014 10:12 GMT
#30
This sounds amazing, downloading
pro toez
MatKay
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany30 Posts
May 20 2014 08:12 GMT
#31
Nice effort with the build order sheets, but rather learn the builds from replays its easier imo
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