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Nayth
Profile Joined May 2012
France17 Posts
May 15 2014 22:48 GMT
#1
Hi,

I've done a really short webcomic on starcraft a year ago but could not continue it beacause it took so much time to do :C

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I have a little update : I've been trying to do comic full time, and worked on the project again to make it edited here in France on paper (so I can get some little money ^^)


Here is the improved version of the project, and there will be no mention to starcraft though it is obviously based on RTS : p

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Thanks for any comments <3
Coca Cola Classic
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
266 Posts
May 15 2014 22:55 GMT
#2
This comic is amazing! Really well done!
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MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
May 15 2014 22:56 GMT
#3
I have to admit I'm impressed... I wouldn't be surprised to see this highlighted!
Interesting to notice how much study there was behind the drawings.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 15 2014 23:03 GMT
#4
i don't really know much about comics but this looks really good to me. probably would gain more support if your protagonist wasn't Naniwa though.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
May 15 2014 23:23 GMT
#5
On May 16 2014 08:03 Schelim wrote:
i don't really know much about comics but this looks really good to me. probably would gain more support if your protagonist wasn't Naniwa though.

What?
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
May 15 2014 23:33 GMT
#6
Well done.. I enjoyed this
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-15 23:47:12
May 15 2014 23:46 GMT
#7
Good to see that the good guy is terran and his evil opponent is protoss
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 15 2014 23:48 GMT
#8
Did I spot a wild ElkY in there?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 16 2014 00:13 GMT
#9
great work!
Inoshishi
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada29 Posts
May 16 2014 00:50 GMT
#10
Pretty cool, but shouldn't the previous champion already have a progaming license and therefore not be in the same tournament?
marigoldran
Profile Joined April 2014
219 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 00:54:26
May 16 2014 00:52 GMT
#11
Not bad, but one major problem: how do you fit in pretty girls into a comic about RTS gaming? I noticed that most of your characters are guys.

[The Japanese avoid this problem by making the game a dating simulation. Unfortunately you can't do that.]
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
May 16 2014 00:57 GMT
#12
This is sweet, really love the art, thanks for posting!
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
May 16 2014 01:36 GMT
#13
Really cool! :D
T P Z sagi
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 01:38:46
May 16 2014 01:37 GMT
#14
On May 16 2014 09:52 marigoldran wrote:
Not bad, but one major problem: how do you fit in pretty girls into a comic about RTS gaming? I noticed that most of your characters are guys.

[The Japanese avoid this problem by making the game a dating simulation. Unfortunately you can't do that.]


You could. Halo-style - the girl is AI!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana

/edit

I like the comic so far but its still a bit too realistic for my taste. We need Yu Gi Oh level of overexageration.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 16 2014 01:46 GMT
#15
I was doubtful at first but that was hella cool :D
thedongwinall
Profile Joined May 2014
10 Posts
May 16 2014 03:43 GMT
#16
This is great post! i think it is a good idea, and also include Jaedong he is best gamer world!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
May 16 2014 03:52 GMT
#17
i like Emi

cool work bro
this is a quote
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 16 2014 03:53 GMT
#18
On May 16 2014 10:37 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 09:52 marigoldran wrote:
Not bad, but one major problem: how do you fit in pretty girls into a comic about RTS gaming? I noticed that most of your characters are guys.

[The Japanese avoid this problem by making the game a dating simulation. Unfortunately you can't do that.]


You could. Halo-style - the girl is AI!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana

/edit

I like the comic so far but its still a bit too realistic for my taste. We need Yu Gi Oh level of overexageration.


No no we need YugiOh.

Also, this is awesome
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 16 2014 04:02 GMT
#19
And holy shit people have a lot of APM in this comic. Probably not Blizzard APMs though :D
Valon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States329 Posts
May 16 2014 05:14 GMT
#20
Awesome! I PMed you with specific feedback.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 16 2014 05:21 GMT
#21
ha, 420 APM
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
May 16 2014 05:51 GMT
#22
On May 16 2014 12:53 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 10:37 plogamer wrote:
On May 16 2014 09:52 marigoldran wrote:
Not bad, but one major problem: how do you fit in pretty girls into a comic about RTS gaming? I noticed that most of your characters are guys.

[The Japanese avoid this problem by making the game a dating simulation. Unfortunately you can't do that.]


You could. Halo-style - the girl is AI!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana

/edit

I like the comic so far but its still a bit too realistic for my taste. We need Yu Gi Oh level of overexageration.


No no we need YugiOh.

Also, this is awesome


To be more detailed, I was imagining the human-body shapes for Y G O. That level of uberexaggeration.
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
May 16 2014 05:57 GMT
#23
I admit I skimmed a bunch, but its a cool idea.

Remember Death Note, light vs L? Especially the tennis match. That's sort of what makes me think this idea could work.
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Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
May 16 2014 06:29 GMT
#24
Would read for sure!
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Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines399 Posts
May 16 2014 06:38 GMT
#25
Nice well done! Will support the project surely
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 06:46:46
May 16 2014 06:46 GMT
#26
On May 16 2014 14:51 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 12:53 lichter wrote:
On May 16 2014 10:37 plogamer wrote:
On May 16 2014 09:52 marigoldran wrote:
Not bad, but one major problem: how do you fit in pretty girls into a comic about RTS gaming? I noticed that most of your characters are guys.

[The Japanese avoid this problem by making the game a dating simulation. Unfortunately you can't do that.]


You could. Halo-style - the girl is AI!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana

/edit

I like the comic so far but its still a bit too realistic for my taste. We need Yu Gi Oh level of overexageration.


No no we need YugiOh.

Also, this is awesome


To be more detailed, I was imagining the human-body shapes for Y G O. That level of uberexaggeration.


To be more detailed, I was imagine a dating sim starring YugiOh trying to impress Eve

spoiler alert he has his heart broken and retires
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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
May 16 2014 07:03 GMT
#27
On May 16 2014 15:46 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 14:51 plogamer wrote:
On May 16 2014 12:53 lichter wrote:
On May 16 2014 10:37 plogamer wrote:
On May 16 2014 09:52 marigoldran wrote:
Not bad, but one major problem: how do you fit in pretty girls into a comic about RTS gaming? I noticed that most of your characters are guys.

[The Japanese avoid this problem by making the game a dating simulation. Unfortunately you can't do that.]


You could. Halo-style - the girl is AI!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana

/edit

I like the comic so far but its still a bit too realistic for my taste. We need Yu Gi Oh level of overexageration.


No no we need YugiOh.

Also, this is awesome


To be more detailed, I was imagining the human-body shapes for Y G O. That level of uberexaggeration.


To be more detailed, I was imagine a dating sim starring YugiOh trying to impress Eve

spoiler alert he has his heart broken and retires


Ok, comic script is perfect nao. E-sports is saved!
BurningRanger
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany303 Posts
May 16 2014 07:17 GMT
#28
Very nice comic! Keep it coming.
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KTP_TV
Profile Joined October 2013
France42 Posts
May 16 2014 07:28 GMT
#29
This is really good work man. I'd gladly read this. Good luck
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
May 16 2014 07:38 GMT
#30
Looks good! You should think about adding some female characters who aren't reduced to love interests, but otherwise the story seems enticing. : )
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 16 2014 07:42 GMT
#31
nice comic!!
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Creo
Profile Joined January 2013
France5 Posts
May 16 2014 07:56 GMT
#32
Hello,

Drawings and shades are good looking, which makes the reader able to enter easily in the story.

I will follow you but I hope it won't be too linear or Manichean because we could already understand the full story. He will win this set of games without following his coach orders. He will be shy about the girl and will never get her. He will grow strong in the scene but will have to endure defeats that will prove he needs to improve with obvious captions about "never surrender, be the best beat the rest".

Anyways, amaze us, make us dream, poor noobs who have dreamed at some points to be pros :p
GLHF!
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 16 2014 08:34 GMT
#33
On May 16 2014 08:23 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 08:03 Schelim wrote:
i don't really know much about comics but this looks really good to me. probably would gain more support if your protagonist wasn't Naniwa though.

What?

tell me that guy doesn't look like Naniwa
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
May 16 2014 08:37 GMT
#34
Pretty awesome! I've had ideas for comics like this too, with a whole plot thought out too. But never had the art skills/motivation to do this. So glad you're doing it though!
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Nayth
Profile Joined May 2012
France17 Posts
May 16 2014 10:01 GMT
#35
Thanks everyone for your comments, the difficulty of making comic work is to be motivated to stay steady, and you are really keeping my spirit up : D

Creo> My original plan for the story is as follow :
The hero will lose his first match due to poor fundamental skills, he will then get picked up by an amator clan and his mentor will teach him from zero. This arc will explain how to improve in RTS game : p as the hero will go through several different internet cafe of different district of the town, each district will have a specific speciality in strategy ^^

The second arc will focus on the hero getting pro and living the pro gamer life from the inside and his everyday's life struggles. The climax will be the Electronics Olympics where he will face off his long time rival obviously : p and where he will make his 'game breaker' move !

This comic aims to be pretty humoristic though, but I have read (blog from pro gamers) and watch many documentaries on the subject and can play pretty decent (master level) so I hope to make it pretty consistent.

I still think the girl character is difficult to integrated, because the pro gaming world is so harsh and currently barely suit girls at all ... So my girl character will be a little bit ... tomboyish and aims to be the first girl to beat a boy on TV. Thats her part ^^'

Anyway, I'll be posting this project to editors in France, and authors have plenty of freedom to develop their story so I hope to get where I wanna go : p
Creo
Profile Joined January 2013
France5 Posts
May 16 2014 11:29 GMT
#36
Thanks for the fast answer Nayth!

I was gladly wrong and it then seems much more interesting than I imagined! I guess we could identify very easily with your main character and get entertained while getting hyped for playing our own games!

Good luck for getting in touch with editors, I know how hard it can be... especially on such a specific story! Are you on CaféSalé (http://www.cfsl.net/), some might help you with getting edited.
Sikian
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Spain177 Posts
May 16 2014 12:05 GMT
#37
Sweeeeet!
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
May 16 2014 12:07 GMT
#38
On May 16 2014 14:57 CutTheEnemy wrote:
I admit I skimmed a bunch, but its a cool idea.

Remember Death Note, light vs L? Especially the tennis match. That's sort of what makes me think this idea could work.


Matz even looks like Yagami Light
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HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 12:15:35
May 16 2014 12:07 GMT
#39
Some weird thing about your plot so far:
Need license to play televised matches,
Play televised match to win license?...

As For the Characters:
Matz, no fan of the name and his design is terrible, he has no edges, he disgusts me, very appalling. Do you know any 13/14 year old, they don't all look like justin bieber or have an asshole attitude.

Kim, my favourite so far, he reminds me of Qxc, nice guy but with angermanagement issues. :D

Kriss does not strike me as a leader, he should be higher ranked, or at least really good looking, or be tall or something.

Emi, no comment yet, she does not emit any personality.

Olfmann, oh man, I love him aswell. Someone to be scared of, would be funny as shit if his personality was the opposite.

Uncle Stan, well, someone like that in "the real" world is not needed. I would give him a worn suit, he should be the manager, organize the team, fail to get sponsors, spend tournament winnings on booze and whores. And why does he look like a zombie, old men lose hair and they dye the rest before they turn 70 to look younger.

As for the gamers,
Albert is offputting, he is too comic in my opinion, he most likely will destroy any immersion a ready would build up.

Overall I think your timing is god damn crytal. It's perfect. You should do story boards for movies. Just make sure you stay coherent (license thing, and is matz 13 or 14?), also I would totally advise to rework the main character. Take a young slayers_boxer for example. Esports should also be for the freaks, make him a LOT more edgy please.
Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 12:40:45
May 16 2014 12:40 GMT
#40
I like how the 14 year old is described as young man and the guy who is 35 looks like some grandpa. But it does look really good tho.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 16 2014 12:57 GMT
#41
I like the artwork well enough, drifts a bit too far into manga for me personally (just not my cup of tea) but I can see the appeal and direction.

The story feels a bit thin, like there could be some kind of lead up or context given. This could come after this first bit structurally, but just my two cents.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 16 2014 13:11 GMT
#42
It is really nice.

I think you should explain the games specific terms though. Like metagame, APM etc... for exemple, we as gamers know what it is but if you want to spread this it could be nice. For exemple, we all know what a katana and a wakizashi are but it's still explained in every samurai anime we see
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Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
May 16 2014 13:12 GMT
#43
Wow, really cool! You're getting the vibe just right It's of course a story most of us on this forum can relate to, at least a storyline we all dreamt of once probably haha! Keep going, you have my support! ^__^
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 16 2014 13:13 GMT
#44
Enjoyed it :D
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Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Italy324 Posts
May 16 2014 13:25 GMT
#45
wow! awsome work you did there :D

i hope there will be more of this!
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 13:37:28
May 16 2014 13:37 GMT
#46
Looks great so far!! Keep us informed

I honestly wasn't expecting anything going in but I'm impressed.
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Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
May 16 2014 13:43 GMT
#47
On May 16 2014 21:40 Vandrad wrote:
I like how the 14 year old is described as young man and the guy who is 35 looks like some grandpa. But it does look really good tho.

That's his apm not his age if we're looking at same thing I think? lol, it says his age is 61 apm 35.
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
May 16 2014 14:45 GMT
#48
This looks cool, my only criticism would be only one female character, and her defining characteristic is "main character is in love with her"

Given that we're trying to branch our hobby out to women in a meaningful way aswell it might be nice if a few of the more important characters were women, or if she had some other function in the narrative than "love interest"

It might sound silly but as a fan of anime, I've found that the under representation of -important- female characters is a reall barrier to a lot of women that might otherwise enjoy the overall narrative of good show's/comics.

I know that in reality there are not that many girl gamers, and the ones that there are are not super l33t for the most part, but if thats something we want to change, a couple of role models in a fictional world might be worth some thought

Looks awesome in general though, great work
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Nayth
Profile Joined May 2012
France17 Posts
May 16 2014 14:58 GMT
#49
Raneth > My english translation of the character description was bit lazy ^^ my original intent was indeed to make her a strong character, even though she may not but the strongest her aim is to become the first female progamer to win a televised match ... but the road will be quite difficult : p

HaRuHi > the model I originally took my main character from was marinking :X a bit arrogant, pretty talented but no discipline ... I thought it was a pretty good beginning to try to mold him a better temper and add in discpline fundamentals to his playstyle.

One thing I found interesting in progamers life is how close it is to artists : ))
The ones who are stuck in the middle ranks in term of skill with no team support (editor, employers) are just screwed ... it is so competitive, you either try to improve to compete with the best or become just an entertainer ... I kinda relate to pro gamers in a sense ^^' Everybody wants to become one, but once they are on the road the difficulties are overwelming ... I wanted to describe this situation in a second arc !


Thanks for all your comments, it keeps me motivated ^^
bonus picture for you folks : p
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alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
May 16 2014 15:00 GMT
#50
This... Looks... GREAT
more please?
This could really escalate quickly into something awesomER
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 15:51:54
May 16 2014 15:50 GMT
#51
That last image is priceless.

Do you have the link in French ?
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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
May 16 2014 17:11 GMT
#52
I will 100% buy it if it's on paper !
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NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
May 16 2014 18:09 GMT
#53
On May 16 2014 14:51 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2014 12:53 lichter wrote:
On May 16 2014 10:37 plogamer wrote:
On May 16 2014 09:52 marigoldran wrote:
Not bad, but one major problem: how do you fit in pretty girls into a comic about RTS gaming? I noticed that most of your characters are guys.

[The Japanese avoid this problem by making the game a dating simulation. Unfortunately you can't do that.]


You could. Halo-style - the girl is AI!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana

/edit

I like the comic so far but its still a bit too realistic for my taste. We need Yu Gi Oh level of overexageration.


No no we need YugiOh.

Also, this is awesome


To be more detailed, I was imagining the human-body shapes for Y G O. That level of uberexaggeration.


Hmm, I don't think that level of exaggeration is enough. If anything, it should be Saki-level of exaggeration where every player has some kind of super power for every swipe of the mouse and push of a button :D

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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9384 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 18:34:36
May 16 2014 18:32 GMT
#54
Awesome indeed, but why are the players so young?
Typical Sc2 player is between 18-26.
Oh, and would be cool if you also included EAPM in the "stats" list. I guess that's comparable to NFL stations not just showing a QB's total passing yards, but his QB rating as well.
esReveR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
May 16 2014 19:33 GMT
#55
Why does the main character look like naniwa?
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