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Stabley
Profile Joined July 2011
United States90 Posts
May 07 2014 12:31 GMT
#41
On May 07 2014 20:07 Frankenberry wrote:
I don't think Blizzard should address this at all. In my opinion it is not a problem, and they should not waste ressources addressing it.



I don't see how this would take "resources"
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 07 2014 12:48 GMT
#42
On May 07 2014 17:40 Eluadyl wrote:
I don't think anyone understands what the OP means by changing the name to 'Player' in game. It doesn't even have to be Player. It can be lllllllllllll too. The idea is just to hide your actual account name during a match.

What is suggested is not to hide the name entirely, only during a match so your opponent won't know who you are. Therefore you can use your actual account in the ladder. That way we won't see barcodes on the rankings list. The only thing this option will help is cleaning up the rankings list.


Yes, that is how I understood it as well, and I am equally confused by what most of the other posters are talking about.

And I think it is a neat little idea that could turn the top GM from "|||||||||||||||||, ||||||||||||||||||, ||||||||||||||||||||||, smurfLULZ, ||||||||||||||||||, otherSmurf" into "EG.jaedong, Liquid'Snute, SLK_Cascade, ...".* The top names will there with the highest ranking, but no one will recognise the accounts in game, and there is no history to be analysed.

*Some IDs may be more realistic than others.
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
May 07 2014 13:05 GMT
#43
You people care about the name of your opponent?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 07 2014 13:08 GMT
#44
On May 07 2014 21:48 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 17:40 Eluadyl wrote:
I don't think anyone understands what the OP means by changing the name to 'Player' in game. It doesn't even have to be Player. It can be lllllllllllll too. The idea is just to hide your actual account name during a match.

What is suggested is not to hide the name entirely, only during a match so your opponent won't know who you are. Therefore you can use your actual account in the ladder. That way we won't see barcodes on the rankings list. The only thing this option will help is cleaning up the rankings list.


Yes, that is how I understood it as well, and I am equally confused by what most of the other posters are talking about.

And I think it is a neat little idea that could turn the top GM from "|||||||||||||||||, ||||||||||||||||||, ||||||||||||||||||||||, smurfLULZ, ||||||||||||||||||, otherSmurf" into "EG.jaedong, Liquid'Snute, SLK_Cascade, ...".* The top names will there with the highest ranking, but no one will recognise the accounts in game, and there is no history to be analysed.

*Some IDs may be more realistic than others.

Haha yeah i agree. It is really funny how people don't understand the op, is reading really that difficult?

Just once again for people who (for what reason ever...) don't understand the intentions of the op.

1. The reason people use barcodes is that they don't want to be recognized IN GAME cause that gives their builds away.
2. Therefore we have a ladder full of Barcodes, which just looks odd and nobody knows who is who (even though ladder isn't THAT important, it would be neat to see who is on top at the moment)

=> the op says why not give players an option to keep their id outside of games but change it inside of it
violà, you have an environment where nobody can easily collect data about certain players on the ladder AND we have a real ranking.
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 13:11:50
May 07 2014 13:09 GMT
#45
MagnuMizer is yet another poster that was TL;DR and just assumed subject from title. If you read it, it has nothing to do about the name of your opponent. It gives the pros the ability to have one account, which they can hide their name during ladder practice (to hide their strat and not have opponents analyze builds/timings) but turn it on during tournaments so their name is visible to us.

I like it from a viewer side because sometimes I tune in on a tournament stream only to see lll1l1l1l1l vs 11ll1l1l1l1. It would be nice to know right away who is who.

Edit:

And it lets me see who is really topping the GM! It is important to me

2nd Edit:

I wonder how many people will make the same assumption again?
DonFonzy
Profile Joined February 2013
United States34 Posts
May 07 2014 13:15 GMT
#46
Anyone who isnt GM should be auto blocked from having a barcode name. Literally every single one of the lower leagues who use it are cancerous tumors who need to be purged from SC2. Not a single one doesnt BM and shit post everywhere they go.
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duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
May 07 2014 13:18 GMT
#47
Barcodes have been a strong reason why many people dont play sc2 as much anymore. It is boring to play IIIIIIII everygame which is why I stopped laddering on korea. Any player skilled enough to win a major LAN is distinguishable by their playstyle aswell and I can tell who it is within 10 minutes...still annoying though. Only upside I see to barcodes would be for hacking....
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27405 Posts
May 07 2014 13:27 GMT
#48
It's not a major issue, but mildly annoying. There's no reason for Blizzard to do this though as lots of people buy accounts for separate real names and barcodes for laddering on surely?
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
May 07 2014 13:31 GMT
#49
On May 07 2014 22:15 DonFonzy wrote:
Anyone who isnt GM should be auto blocked from having a barcode name. Literally every single one of the lower leagues who use it are cancerous tumors who need to be purged from SC2. Not a single one doesnt BM and shit post everywhere they go.

based on this post i'm guessing that makes you a lower league barcode?
DonFonzy
Profile Joined February 2013
United States34 Posts
May 07 2014 13:34 GMT
#50
On May 07 2014 22:31 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 22:15 DonFonzy wrote:
Anyone who isnt GM should be auto blocked from having a barcode name. Literally every single one of the lower leagues who use it are cancerous tumors who need to be purged from SC2. Not a single one doesnt BM and shit post everywhere they go.

based on this post i'm guessing that makes you a lower league barcode?

Im amazed. Permma banned from bnet for trolling and shitposting but not tl. Seems a bit backwards.
Dont worry Waise, you stll rank higher on the cancer scale than barcodes do.

User was warned for this post
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GoOdy
Profile Joined October 2003
Germany44 Posts
May 07 2014 13:34 GMT
#51
Right know you can use "set friend note" to tag some barcodes, but I would like to be able to tag non-friends and the notes should show during the loading screen, so you can tell if it is a known barcode or if he was cheesing/flaming/macroing last game etc.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
May 07 2014 13:59 GMT
#52
On May 07 2014 19:28 mechengineer123 wrote:
Why are people so bothered by barcodes.


You don't see it as a problem that the best indication of who the best players in the world are in a low variance environment, namely the Korean ladder, is completely useless to gauge anything from as 80%+ of players are barcodes?
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Stabley
Profile Joined July 2011
United States90 Posts
May 07 2014 14:06 GMT
#53
On May 07 2014 22:05 MagnuMizer wrote:
You people care about the name of your opponent?


no, but the ladder should consist of player names on rankings, not barcodes
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 07 2014 14:09 GMT
#54
I'm a huge fan of this idea!
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Stabley
Profile Joined July 2011
United States90 Posts
May 07 2014 14:09 GMT
#55
On May 07 2014 23:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm a huge fan of this idea!


thanks dude, i appreciate it
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
May 07 2014 14:11 GMT
#56
Wombat, you are correct that lots of pros have two accounts. Because this gives Blizzard more money, I doubt it will change. However, I still see lots of barcodes in is some tournaments (mostly small ones) so it would still help some of the semi-pros that do want to hide their identity on ladder but can't afford a second account.

And to all those that say a second account isn't expensive; go talk to the struggling up and comers that really want to go full pro but can barely get by with other stuff in life. Even these guys need to hide their strats on ladder.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1311 Posts
May 07 2014 14:57 GMT
#57
On May 07 2014 16:09 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Blizzard should forbid names which contain barcode segments and should change the UI font displaying player names slightly so the visual appearance of the small "L" and capital "i" would look different.


That only works if names are unique. People forget WOL Beta when everyone changed their names to ESPORTS in protest because they were mad that user names were not unique, to prove a point at how "silly" it is to let everyone have the same name if they wanted to. Funny how that turned out.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 15:35:24
May 07 2014 15:34 GMT
#58
On May 07 2014 15:23 Meepman wrote:
Blizzard won't even fix problems that need to be fixed, never mind something as superficial as this...

There isn't even really a difference between 'lllllllll' and 'player.'


Except with this system we'd actually be able to see who was ranked on ladder instead of just endless barcodes.

No one is proposing that players that use barcodes be punished, just that barcodes are bad for the purposes of GM ranking and were this system in place, much of the reason for actually using them disappears as players would be able to hide their identity and match history without them while laddering.
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Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
May 07 2014 15:41 GMT
#59
Can somebody please, PLEASE explain to me why this is even an issue? Why does there even need to be a thread about this?
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Stabley
Profile Joined July 2011
United States90 Posts
May 07 2014 15:44 GMT
#60
On May 08 2014 00:41 Amazonic wrote:
Can somebody please, PLEASE explain to me why this is even an issue? Why does there even need to be a thread about this?



It's not an issue, it is something that can be improved upon . I fail to see why bringing up the discussion of something is problematic.
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