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HighArT
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia189 Posts
March 16 2014 20:36 GMT
#1


More info: Reddit topic

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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 16 2014 20:38 GMT
#2
What are these obvious reasons? o.o
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
March 16 2014 20:39 GMT
#3
On March 17 2014 05:38 Grobyc wrote:
What are these obvious reasons? o.o


swarmhosts
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 16 2014 20:40 GMT
#4
On March 17 2014 05:38 Grobyc wrote:
What are these obvious reasons? o.o

after almost one year, he's still in the same swarmhost game.
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Traceback
Profile Joined October 2010
United States469 Posts
March 16 2014 20:41 GMT
#5
On March 17 2014 05:39 Xinzoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 05:38 Grobyc wrote:
What are these obvious reasons? o.o


swarmhosts

"Team Swarm Host" has a nice long ring to it.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 20:44:22
March 16 2014 20:41 GMT
#6
On March 17 2014 05:38 Grobyc wrote:
What are these obvious reasons? o.o

I'm not 100% sure myself but I think something to do with this?
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Apparently this is Firecake. Golden also posted these on twitter.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
March 16 2014 20:42 GMT
#7
On March 17 2014 05:38 Grobyc wrote:
What are these obvious reasons? o.o

https://twitter.com/Ai_Golden/status/444772618579636224/photo/1
Refer to my post.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 16 2014 20:43 GMT
#8
On March 17 2014 05:41 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 05:38 Grobyc wrote:
What are these obvious reasons? o.o

I'm not 100% sure myself but I think something to do with this?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That amongst the 50 other times his BM has been posted in public
Glorious SEA doto
HighArT
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia189 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 20:56:41
March 16 2014 20:44 GMT
#9
Some of this things mostly, and some other less irrelevant stuff...
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 16 2014 20:47 GMT
#10
I also read that he pauses/unpauses during fights on ladder. Not sure if it's true though.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 16 2014 20:48 GMT
#11
On March 17 2014 05:38 Grobyc wrote:
What are these obvious reasons? o.o

BM He has been so many times top of reddit coz of it
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
March 16 2014 20:48 GMT
#12
I hope he never finds a team and never is invited for a tournament again.
You just dont say stuff like that - cancer is something that just should not be joked around with.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
HYRULE15
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany72 Posts
March 16 2014 20:51 GMT
#13
"We wish good luck to him, and his new team!" I don't think thats gonna happen any time soon.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
March 16 2014 20:54 GMT
#14
On March 17 2014 05:48 Glorfindel! wrote:
I hope he never finds a team and never is invited for a tournament again.
You just dont say stuff like that - cancer is something that just should not be joked around with.


this.

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mooose
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan200 Posts
March 16 2014 20:56 GMT
#15
Surprised he would be kicked out over that when they have revolver on the team who is just as bm
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myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
March 16 2014 20:57 GMT
#16
On March 17 2014 05:51 HYRULE15 wrote:
"We wish good luck to him, and his new team!" I don't think thats gonna happen any time soon.



i hope so
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 16 2014 20:57 GMT
#17
On March 17 2014 05:56 mooose wrote:
Surprised he would be kicked out over that when they have revolver on the team who is just as bm

Difference is revolver isn't top of reddit multiple times
Glorious SEA doto
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 16 2014 21:00 GMT
#18
Ahh I see. I don't read reddit or twitter
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
March 16 2014 21:02 GMT
#19
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 21:24:42
March 16 2014 21:18 GMT
#20
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Don't even need to type anything if you don't feel like it. Just not typing in something that would suggest you wish that one or more of your opponent's close relatives would die from a terminal illness should be enough.

Anyone who cannot manage this will pretty much always end up getting sacked sooner or later, eventually you become an embarrassment and a burden for your team. I've been involved in some different avenues of competition in my life and I've met people like that in all of them. Almost without fail they end up being persona non grata.
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Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 21:19:46
March 16 2014 21:18 GMT
#21
If someone is cancer for SC2 community, it is Firecake...
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misspoo
Profile Joined December 2012
France63 Posts
March 16 2014 21:19 GMT
#22
He is well know to be a really bad manner little child...
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
March 16 2014 21:27 GMT
#23
On March 17 2014 05:48 Glorfindel! wrote:
I hope he never finds a team and never is invited for a tournament again.
You just dont say stuff like that - cancer is something that just should not be joked around with.


its what 50% of my zerg enemys wish me on ladder
even at start of game its "gl hf" "hope you die and get cancer fuck protoss"

... sad but i nearly stopped playing because its just not fun getting flamed every game before game even starts ...
such players should never be supported never get any teams or any tournament invites
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Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
March 16 2014 21:32 GMT
#24
Hope he does not find a new team and that he feels the consequences of his behaviour.
Its just a shame to write bullshit like that, its so childish.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12883 Posts
March 16 2014 21:33 GMT
#25
I remember playing against him when he was still top master, sometimes winning because of broodlord/infestors, he was quite BM but not that much, seems like being a little less bad than before went to his head a tad too much.
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
March 16 2014 21:48 GMT
#26
He's the one behind some of the dullest starcraft to date. And this boring play combined with this constant BM has lead me to a strong dislike for him. I hope to not see him in a tournament again.
maru G5L pls
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 22:48:03
March 16 2014 22:41 GMT
#27
I didn't know that kid was so known to deserve a thread. Bye llllllllllll
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
March 16 2014 22:53 GMT
#28
WOW

All that bashing only for some BM, i'm extremely disappointing in what i see from TL posters.
Everyone had his own mindset, his maybe more expressive than other but being dicks like you are all being will not solve anything, he's still a player that made it to premier with decent results.
RIP MKP
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 16 2014 22:55 GMT
#29
On March 17 2014 07:53 shid0x wrote:
WOW

All that bashing only for some BM, i'm extremely disappointing in what i see from TL posters.
Everyone had his own mindset, his maybe more expressive than other but being dicks like you are all being will not solve anything, he's still a player that made it to premier with decent results.


imagine michael jordan going "i hope you get cancer" to opponents.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
March 16 2014 22:57 GMT
#30
god elfi wants a clean house
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
March 16 2014 23:00 GMT
#31
On March 17 2014 07:55 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 07:53 shid0x wrote:
WOW

All that bashing only for some BM, i'm extremely disappointing in what i see from TL posters.
Everyone had his own mindset, his maybe more expressive than other but being dicks like you are all being will not solve anything, he's still a player that made it to premier with decent results.


imagine michael jordan going "i hope you get cancer" to opponents.


Frankly i wouldn't care as long as his skills would be the same.
I can understand firecake way of speaking, not everyone can keep their rage in and sometimes you have to let it out...
We all know that when we let it out we say retarded things, but that's who we are.
I will not juge firecake for being over expressive and i think its wrong to.

I mean you can not agree or dislike it but being such asses is just basically TL getting on the same foot as him.
(So in a way TL insulting themselves KEK )
RIP MKP
Skyblueone
Profile Joined June 2012
Belgium155 Posts
March 16 2014 23:12 GMT
#32
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous


Firecake is not pro, he does math studies or something.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
March 16 2014 23:23 GMT
#33
On March 17 2014 08:12 Skyblueone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous


Firecake is not pro, he does math studies or something.

Solar isn't a pro either because he goes to school? "Pro" isn't synonym for "full time".
Refer to my post.
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
March 16 2014 23:23 GMT
#34
On March 17 2014 05:38 Grobyc wrote:
What are these obvious reasons? o.o


A french version of Idra and Naniwa combined.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44329 Posts
March 16 2014 23:29 GMT
#35
Wow didn't realize Firecake was so unsportsmanlike. But then again, I don't really know anything about him except for that really long boring game he played against Mana.

He kind of looks like orb. Fitting, I suppose ^^ Although I actually like orb lol.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 16 2014 23:29 GMT
#36
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 23:39:40
March 16 2014 23:30 GMT
#37
On March 17 2014 08:23 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 08:12 Skyblueone wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous


Firecake is not pro, he does math studies or something.

Solar isn't a pro either because he goes to school? "Pro" isn't synonym for "full time".

Pro means professional, as in supporting yourself through gaming as a profession. Time spent playing and relative skill levels are irrelevant. Firecake competed for money, and likely had a salary from his team. Ergo, he was a professional.

Also, excusing his behaviour as being outspoken or having a different mentality is rather absurd, no professional work place environment in the adult world would accept those excuses. You are responsible for what you do and say, period.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 23:36:03
March 16 2014 23:33 GMT
#38
On March 17 2014 08:00 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 07:55 boxerfred wrote:
On March 17 2014 07:53 shid0x wrote:
WOW

All that bashing only for some BM, i'm extremely disappointing in what i see from TL posters.
Everyone had his own mindset, his maybe more expressive than other but being dicks like you are all being will not solve anything, he's still a player that made it to premier with decent results.


imagine michael jordan going "i hope you get cancer" to opponents.


Frankly i wouldn't care as long as his skills would be the same.
I can understand firecake way of speaking, not everyone can keep their rage in and sometimes you have to let it out...
We all know that when we let it out we say retarded things, but that's who we are.
I will not juge firecake for being over expressive and i think its wrong to.

I mean you can not agree or dislike it but being such asses is just basically TL getting on the same foot as him.
(So in a way TL insulting themselves KEK )

wtf? you have a responsibility to keep your rage in if you want to be a socially acceptable person. words are weapons and it's not that different from throwing a punch. imagine you're out at a party with friends and your one loud obnoxious friend is going around getting angry at women who reject him and trying to start fights with dudes. am i bad mannered if i say to your friend "hey, fuck off man, you're ruining other people's good time, leave if you can't be civil"? he's not alone playing single player, he chose to engage in an activity with another human being. it's a 50/50 agreement and if you act like a fucking dick to your competitive counterpart then people are going to trash you and not associate with you

do i agree with trolling firecake, trying to make him angry, talking bad about him as a human being (rather than his behavior)? no because you're right, that isn't productive and doesn't make me a better person. but people here collectively condemning his shitty behavior is not somehow "just as bad" as telling someone to get fucking cancer. doesn't matter if he's pro or gold ladder.

how can you even be a functioning adult and say it's acceptable to tell someone to get cancer just because you're feeling angry? that's something you need therapy for if you cannot control it.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 23:53:16
March 16 2014 23:53 GMT
#39
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

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[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 17 2014 00:04 GMT
#40
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.

that's a pretty convincing counter argument. i'm kinda disappointed in Greg
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 17 2014 00:07 GMT
#41
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Wasn't it against Grubby ?
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 17 2014 00:08 GMT
#42
On March 17 2014 09:07 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Wasn't it against Grubby ?

Greg strongly disliked Grubby from what I understand.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
March 17 2014 00:46 GMT
#43
I have been extremely mad on ladder, but I have never wished cancer on my opponent. I find that statement pretty malign. I hope he takes a look at his behavior and reevaluates from there.
"Right on" - Morrow
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
March 17 2014 00:56 GMT
#44
On March 17 2014 09:07 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Wasn't it against Grubby ?

Capoch the Argentinian (?) player.
Snake.69
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada140 Posts
March 17 2014 01:04 GMT
#45
haha, i guess im not so bad almost never GG'ing... Worst ill say is * fuck protoss* or * this is so fucking stupid*.

I always blame the game, never once personnally insult others no matter how mad i get... I mean in the end everyone tries to win O_O
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
March 17 2014 01:19 GMT
#46
On March 17 2014 09:56 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 09:07 Boucot wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Wasn't it against Grubby ?

Capoch the Argentinian (?) player.


correct it was capoche, i watched it live :D, also took the same screenshot lol
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
March 17 2014 01:36 GMT
#47
On March 17 2014 10:19 ImperialFist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 09:56 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 09:07 Boucot wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Wasn't it against Grubby ?

Capoch the Argentinian (?) player.


correct it was capoche, i watched it live :D, also took the same screenshot lol

Could be yours :D Just a google result for "idra capoche"
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 17 2014 01:41 GMT
#48
hahaa funny bm
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 17 2014 01:52 GMT
#49
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Why is that like a go to thing? Naniwa, Idra, and Firecake all used it. Presumably others have as well?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
March 17 2014 02:06 GMT
#50
On March 17 2014 10:52 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Why is that like a go to thing? Naniwa, Idra, and Firecake all used it. Presumably others have as well?

Cancer is pretty awful so if you want to be awful that's an easy way to do it ! Personally I'm content with "I hope you step on a lego."
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 17 2014 02:41 GMT
#51
On March 17 2014 11:06 Bibbit wrote:
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On March 17 2014 10:52 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

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Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Why is that like a go to thing? Naniwa, Idra, and Firecake all used it. Presumably others have as well?

Cancer is pretty awful so if you want to be awful that's an easy way to do it ! Personally I'm content with "I hope you step on a lego."


Disgusting. You can overcome cancer but once you step on a LEGO you have stepped on a LEGO. You can't undo that.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 17 2014 02:49 GMT
#52
Well, if he's as BM as they are and it seems to be the case, I'm not surprised that his team let him good.

On March 17 2014 11:41 AlternativeEgo wrote:
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On March 17 2014 11:06 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 10:52 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:53 Bibbit wrote:
On March 17 2014 08:29 Schelim wrote:
wow i had no idea he was so BM. all i remember seeing from Firecake is neverending swarmhost games. this behavior is really childish and uncalled for, he does not deserve to be on a pro-team. "I hope you get cancer" is worse than anything Idra has ever said.

Well since you mention it.

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Didnt go particularly well for him either.

Why is that like a go to thing? Naniwa, Idra, and Firecake all used it. Presumably others have as well?

Cancer is pretty awful so if you want to be awful that's an easy way to do it ! Personally I'm content with "I hope you step on a lego."


Disgusting. You can overcome cancer but once you step on a LEGO you have stepped on a LEGO. You can't undo that.

you'll only get an imprint from the lego though
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 17 2014 03:34 GMT
#53
On March 17 2014 07:53 shid0x wrote:
WOW

All that bashing only for some BM, i'm extremely disappointing in what i see from TL posters.
Everyone had his own mindset, his maybe more expressive than other but being dicks like you are all being will not solve anything, he's still a player that made it to premier with decent results.


It's ok, we're extremely disappointed with people that have your mentality as well.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 17 2014 03:44 GMT
#54
It's really disappointing how bad players are with insults. I long for the day that insults like "I hope you develop hemorrhoids that secrete honey in your sleep so that ants and bees will flock to your beacon of assholery and set it ablaze with a thousand stings" become more common
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
March 17 2014 03:46 GMT
#55
On March 17 2014 12:44 lichter wrote:
It's really disappointing how bad players are with insults. I long for the day that insults like "I hope you develop hemorrhoids that secrete honey in your sleep so that ants and bees will flock to your beacon of assholery and set it ablaze with a thousand stings" become more common

if idra had come up with something like "i genuinely hope something bad happens to you, like you forget how to use a dishwasher" he may have gone down with a different legacy
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
March 17 2014 03:46 GMT
#56
On March 17 2014 12:44 lichter wrote:
It's really disappointing how bad players are with insults. I long for the day that insults like "I hope you develop hemorrhoids that secrete honey in your sleep so that ants and bees will flock to your beacon of assholery and set it ablaze with a thousand stings" become more common

Should I quote you when I use that in ladder games?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 17 2014 03:57 GMT
#57
Good, BM is bad and there should be a consequence. Plus swarmhosts
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RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
March 17 2014 03:58 GMT
#58
On March 17 2014 12:44 lichter wrote:
It's really disappointing how bad players are with insults. I long for the day that insults like "I hope you develop hemorrhoids that secrete honey in your sleep so that ants and bees will flock to your beacon of assholery and set it ablaze with a thousand stings" become more common

My favourite line will always be "fucking faggot I bet you've never even sucked a dick before."
Getting mad at people is dumb, parodying people who do get mad is fun.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 04:03:25
March 17 2014 04:03 GMT
#59
On March 17 2014 12:58 RockIronrod wrote:
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On March 17 2014 12:44 lichter wrote:
It's really disappointing how bad players are with insults. I long for the day that insults like "I hope you develop hemorrhoids that secrete honey in your sleep so that ants and bees will flock to your beacon of assholery and set it ablaze with a thousand stings" become more common

My favourite line will always be "fucking faggot I bet you've never even sucked a dick before."
Getting mad at people is dumb, parodying people who do get mad is fun.

i find one of the best ways to handle my own ladder stress is to make up a really stupid insult and say that instead of what i really want to say. like if i'm zerg and lose to a terran and i'm really frustrated, i'll say something like "i hope you realize you're only winning because protoss is OP"

it gives you the satisfaction of feeling like you're insulting the other person, but it's also goofy, which lightens the mood for both you and your opponent
loko1275
Profile Joined June 2012
11 Posts
March 17 2014 06:29 GMT
#60
I dont get it, he wasnt bm under the vega's tag. From my point of view Vega betrayed him when they admited this was his barcode. The obvious reasons are more likely to be the fact he is by far the best player of his team and he'll probably moves for a better team, or at least, a better salary.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 17 2014 06:31 GMT
#61
I mean, Golden already told everyone it was him. You can't unring a bell.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 17 2014 06:37 GMT
#62
So FireCake went from FireCake to Fired Cake...

You can't fire a player for playing swarm host and winning with it. It is like banning a tennis player from playing on the baseline, refusing to go on the net. The blame for boring swarm host games (from the view of the audience) does not lie with the players, but with the game designers. So, obviously, my take of this is that there are other obvious reasons behind this. Different level of mind games, eh?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
March 17 2014 06:55 GMT
#63
On March 17 2014 15:29 loko1275 wrote:
I dont get it, he wasnt bm under the vega's tag. From my point of view Vega betrayed him when they admited this was his barcode. The obvious reasons are more likely to be the fact he is by far the best player of his team and he'll probably moves for a better team, or at least, a better salary.

it can be assumed that most respectable teams have in-house rules about showing good character and sportsmanship. what difference does it make whether he was showing their tag? the revelation that he was being an asshole on another account reflects poorly on the team and the team made a completely understandable business and personal decision
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 17 2014 07:06 GMT
#64
On March 17 2014 15:37 BaneRiders wrote:
So FireCake went from FireCake to Fired Cake...

You can't fire a player for playing swarm host and winning with it. It is like banning a tennis player from playing on the baseline, refusing to go on the net. The blame for boring swarm host games (from the view of the audience) does not lie with the players, but with the game designers. So, obviously, my take of this is that there are other obvious reasons behind this. Different level of mind games, eh?



Uh, I think the obvious reasons are that he said he hopes Golden gets cancer, and there are screenshots of it near the top of Reddit. Doesn't have anything to do with his play. In fact, honestly I suspect Vega kinda likes that part. It works decently well, and it transformed him from a nobody into one of the most well-known non-Korean Zergs.
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
March 17 2014 07:06 GMT
#65
He bmd on ladder? Seriously we still fuck peoples life for bming on ladder? What a joke.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
March 17 2014 07:11 GMT
#66
On March 17 2014 16:06 Lorch wrote:
He bmd on ladder? Seriously we still fuck peoples life for bming on ladder? What a joke.

he said "i hope you get cancer" to another player, that's not the same as saying "toss op" and ragequitting

if i ran a team i wouldn't want to associate with anyone who acts like that and i wouldn't want anyone that hateful and childish to be representing my brand
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 17 2014 07:17 GMT
#67
On March 17 2014 16:06 Lorch wrote:
He bmd on ladder? Seriously we still fuck peoples life for bming on ladder? What a joke.


"Fuck peoples life" lmao.

It's a video game. It's not fucking with his life. And an easy solution would be not to be a little prick telling people they should die of cancer hoping to hide behind the anonymity of a barcode.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
March 17 2014 07:19 GMT
#68
On March 17 2014 16:06 Lorch wrote:
He bmd on ladder? Seriously we still fuck peoples life for bming on ladder? What a joke.

Don't worry, an amator being fired from his team doesn't fuck his life.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
March 17 2014 07:20 GMT
#69
yeah, naniwa is clearly the baddest person
Beastyqt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Serbia516 Posts
March 17 2014 07:21 GMT
#70
It's pretty bad what he said don't get me wrong, but if every team kicked player for being BM on ladder, every player would be team less.

Even Ret who is supposed to be one of the nicest players admit that he bm's on smurf account, imagine what others do then.
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
March 17 2014 07:56 GMT
#71
On March 17 2014 16:21 Beastyqt wrote:
It's pretty bad what he said don't get me wrong, but if every team kicked player for being BM on ladder, every player would be team less.

Even Ret who is supposed to be one of the nicest players admit that he bm's on smurf account, imagine what others do then.

It ammuses me that you're saying its ok to wish someone a cancer and tell his mom's ugly.

bms like "ez race", "noob", "luck", "fuck you" are pretty ok if person is upset. But there are boundaries. Firecake definitely got overboard. I'm rager myself but I would never say such things he said. Even to my worst enemies irl.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2014 08:15 GMT
#72
On March 17 2014 16:56 saddaromma wrote:
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On March 17 2014 16:21 Beastyqt wrote:
It's pretty bad what he said don't get me wrong, but if every team kicked player for being BM on ladder, every player would be team less.

Even Ret who is supposed to be one of the nicest players admit that he bm's on smurf account, imagine what others do then.

It ammuses me that you're saying its ok to wish someone a cancer and tell his mom's ugly.

bms like "ez race", "noob", "luck", "fuck you" are pretty ok if person is upset. But there are boundaries. Firecake definitely got overboard. I'm rager myself but I would never say such things he said. Even to my worst enemies irl.

Some people can't control their anger, this only fucks up the amateurs and not very sucessful players. People like Naniwa and IdrA can do as they please and no one would ever fire them.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 17 2014 08:18 GMT
#73
On March 17 2014 17:15 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 16:56 saddaromma wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:21 Beastyqt wrote:
It's pretty bad what he said don't get me wrong, but if every team kicked player for being BM on ladder, every player would be team less.

Even Ret who is supposed to be one of the nicest players admit that he bm's on smurf account, imagine what others do then.

It ammuses me that you're saying its ok to wish someone a cancer and tell his mom's ugly.

bms like "ez race", "noob", "luck", "fuck you" are pretty ok if person is upset. But there are boundaries. Firecake definitely got overboard. I'm rager myself but I would never say such things he said. Even to my worst enemies irl.

Some people can't control their anger, this only fucks up the amateurs and not very sucessful players. People like Naniwa and IdrA can do as they please and no one would ever fire them.


If you can't control you're anger, you're acting like a silly immature child. I'm OK with them getting "fucked over" although in reality they are only doing it to themselves.

Don't expect to be on a team if you cant' control your anger.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 17 2014 08:22 GMT
#74
On March 17 2014 17:18 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 17:15 Morbidius wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:56 saddaromma wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:21 Beastyqt wrote:
It's pretty bad what he said don't get me wrong, but if every team kicked player for being BM on ladder, every player would be team less.

Even Ret who is supposed to be one of the nicest players admit that he bm's on smurf account, imagine what others do then.

It ammuses me that you're saying its ok to wish someone a cancer and tell his mom's ugly.

bms like "ez race", "noob", "luck", "fuck you" are pretty ok if person is upset. But there are boundaries. Firecake definitely got overboard. I'm rager myself but I would never say such things he said. Even to my worst enemies irl.

Some people can't control their anger, this only fucks up the amateurs and not very sucessful players. People like Naniwa and IdrA can do as they please and no one would ever fire them.


If you can't control you're anger, you're acting like a silly immature child. I'm OK with them getting "fucked over" although in reality they are only doing it to themselves.

Don't expect to be on a team if you cant' control your anger.

You get fired in the real world for not controlling your anger too. I don't see the problem. A bit of trash talk/BM is fine. Raging and making your team [sponsors] look bad shouldn't be tolerated.
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
March 17 2014 08:24 GMT
#75
The team fires him, it's legit. People bashing him here is just pathetic... Sure you all behave like angels and never BM'd in any circumstances. Ladder wouldn't be the same with all that BM (less funny imo).
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 17 2014 08:24 GMT
#76
On March 17 2014 17:15 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 16:56 saddaromma wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:21 Beastyqt wrote:
It's pretty bad what he said don't get me wrong, but if every team kicked player for being BM on ladder, every player would be team less.

Even Ret who is supposed to be one of the nicest players admit that he bm's on smurf account, imagine what others do then.

It ammuses me that you're saying its ok to wish someone a cancer and tell his mom's ugly.

bms like "ez race", "noob", "luck", "fuck you" are pretty ok if person is upset. But there are boundaries. Firecake definitely got overboard. I'm rager myself but I would never say such things he said. Even to my worst enemies irl.

Some people can't control their anger, this only fucks up the amateurs and not very sucessful players. People like Naniwa and IdrA can do as they please and no one would ever fire them.

i think you may have missed something there
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RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
March 17 2014 08:41 GMT
#77
On March 17 2014 17:24 Furikawari wrote:
Ladder wouldn't be the same with all that BM (less funny imo).

Or not. Dont worry I'm pretty sure you're still young, you aren't tired of this constant bm. Yet.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1894 Posts
March 17 2014 08:44 GMT
#78
Title seems a bit misleading since he didn't left on his own but was dismissed by his team.
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Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
March 17 2014 08:46 GMT
#79
On March 17 2014 17:41 RaiZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 17:24 Furikawari wrote:
Ladder wouldn't be the same with all that BM (less funny imo).

Or not. Dont worry I'm pretty sure you're still young, you aren't tired of this constant bm. Yet.

I'm almost 40. Nice try. But the main difference is probably that I'm old enough to take what I see on screen as what it is: pixels, and nothing else. And how come people name this "personal attack" when it's hidden behind a screen?
PrivateGG
Profile Joined January 2014
France8 Posts
March 17 2014 08:46 GMT
#80
Haha, that's why fire cake is the most hated player in the french scene. Dayshi said that he was happy when fire cake lost in Premier league. Still, even for a bad mannered bastard like Firecake its sad to be kicked out of a pro team for such stupid reasons.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
March 17 2014 08:49 GMT
#81
He learned the hard way, that being a dick can have consequences, hopefully he will change for the better and continue playing.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 17 2014 08:56 GMT
#82
lol isnt he the guy that abuses swarm hosts. why is he raging at others when he abuses a broken boring playstyle that takes zero skill and then bores people to death with super long games
monscream
Profile Joined December 2013
Italy24 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 09:07:27
March 17 2014 09:05 GMT
#83
Didn't know he was such a BM...hate that kind of players. So childish. Total support to Vega's decision. GL
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 17 2014 18:24 GMT
#84
Ok, so here is a game conduct manual for professionals:

  • When losing a game, type gg and leave.


Alternatively

  • When losing a game to a cheesy tactic, type gc and leave.


If there is a need to rage, step inside a soundproof wardrobe*, close the door and shout until you feel better. If this happens every so often, deploy a teddy bear in the wardrobe for extended hugging sessions.


*You will have to build this one before you start laddering
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
March 17 2014 18:27 GMT
#85
On March 18 2014 03:24 BaneRiders wrote:
Ok, so here is a game conduct manual for professionals:

  • When losing a game, type gg and leave.


Alternatively

  • When losing a game to a cheesy tactic, type gc and leave.


If there is a need to rage, step inside a soundproof wardrobe*, close the door and shout until you feel better. If this happens every so often, deploy a teddy bear in the wardrobe for extended hugging sessions.


*You will have to build this one before you start laddering

Someone should make an extension mod that if you don't type "glhf" you can't make anything, and you can't leave the game if you don't type "gg".
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 18:35:00
March 17 2014 18:33 GMT
#86
On March 18 2014 03:27 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 03:24 BaneRiders wrote:
Ok, so here is a game conduct manual for professionals:

  • When losing a game, type gg and leave.


Alternatively

  • When losing a game to a cheesy tactic, type gc and leave.


If there is a need to rage, step inside a soundproof wardrobe*, close the door and shout until you feel better. If this happens every so often, deploy a teddy bear in the wardrobe for extended hugging sessions.


*You will have to build this one before you start laddering

Someone should make an extension mod that if you don't type "glhf" you can't make anything, and you can't leave the game if you don't type "gg".

Hardcore enforcement of old KeSPA rules? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Disqualification

Firecake brought this on himself really, kudos on Vega for nipping it in the bud, though I wish the tweet was worded better in English.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
March 17 2014 18:40 GMT
#87
I hope more teams do this.

This kind of behavior is not accepted in other sports. Why is it okay for eSports. Makes players look like a bunch of whiny children.
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misspoo
Profile Joined December 2012
France63 Posts
March 17 2014 18:42 GMT
#88
The tittle is wrong. He didn't leave but kick.
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
March 17 2014 18:51 GMT
#89
On March 18 2014 03:40 DinoMight wrote:
I hope more teams do this.

This kind of behavior is not accepted in other sports. Why is it okay for eSports. Makes players look like a bunch of whiny children.


It is not accepted behavior in Starcraft 2 either, just read the rules for WCS. However, yet it happens all the time in sports and eSports since people get really emotional in fierce competition. In Icehockey the players even punch each other on the face. Go watch soccer and don´t tell me that the players don´t make themself look like a bunch of whiny children when they fake an injury.

Achaius
Profile Joined February 2014
United States7 Posts
March 17 2014 18:52 GMT
#90
This is why we can't have nice things.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 17 2014 19:01 GMT
#91
On March 18 2014 03:24 BaneRiders wrote:
Ok, so here is a game conduct manual for professionals:

  • When losing a game, type gg and leave.


Alternatively

  • When losing a game to a cheesy tactic, type gc and leave.


If there is a need to rage, step inside a soundproof wardrobe*, close the door and shout until you feel better. If this happens every so often, deploy a teddy bear in the wardrobe for extended hugging sessions.


*You will have to build this one before you start laddering

What's "gc" ?
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 17 2014 19:04 GMT
#92
On March 18 2014 04:01 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 03:24 BaneRiders wrote:
Ok, so here is a game conduct manual for professionals:

  • When losing a game, type gg and leave.


Alternatively

  • When losing a game to a cheesy tactic, type gc and leave.


If there is a need to rage, step inside a soundproof wardrobe*, close the door and shout until you feel better. If this happens every so often, deploy a teddy bear in the wardrobe for extended hugging sessions.


*You will have to build this one before you start laddering

What's "gc" ?

Good cheese I imagine.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 17 2014 19:08 GMT
#93
they shouldve kicked elfi, i think hes the only mannered person on this team.

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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 17 2014 19:19 GMT
#94
On March 18 2014 04:04 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 04:01 Boucot wrote:
On March 18 2014 03:24 BaneRiders wrote:
Ok, so here is a game conduct manual for professionals:

  • When losing a game, type gg and leave.


Alternatively

  • When losing a game to a cheesy tactic, type gc and leave.


If there is a need to rage, step inside a soundproof wardrobe*, close the door and shout until you feel better. If this happens every so often, deploy a teddy bear in the wardrobe for extended hugging sessions.


*You will have to build this one before you start laddering

What's "gc" ?

Good cheese I imagine.

Ba da bing!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
March 18 2014 16:01 GMT
#95
"Firecake leaves VegaSquadron".
On a mutual agreement I think. VegaSquadron making it sound like they fired him is a little lame I think, especially when he has been by far the best player in the team during the past 6 months, basically giving the team a reason to exist on the european scene.

The guy is a total kid on ladder but he is very mannered offline or on broadcasted online tournaments.
Btw did you know that he is the one of the few (if not the only one) european challengers who owns a master's degree ?
I hope he'll change his behaviour on ladder and that he'll find a good team nonetheless !
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 18 2014 16:41 GMT
#96
On March 19 2014 01:01 v_lm wrote:
"Firecake leaves VegaSquadron".
On a mutual agreement I think. VegaSquadron making it sound like they fired him is a little lame I think, especially when he has been by far the best player in the team during the past 6 months, basically giving the team a reason to exist on the european scene.

The guy is a total kid on ladder but he is very mannered offline or on broadcasted online tournaments.
Btw did you know that he is the one of the few (if not the only one) european challengers who owns a master's degree ?
I hope he'll change his behaviour on ladder and that he'll find a good team nonetheless !

You forget elfi...
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jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
March 22 2014 00:22 GMT
#97
Ahahhaa firecake in fire! Loool! Soo funny Idra style))
Arson_
Profile Joined March 2014
United States4 Posts
March 22 2014 05:16 GMT
#98
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 22 2014 08:33 GMT
#99
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same
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Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
March 22 2014 09:11 GMT
#100
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 22 2014 09:21 GMT
#101
On March 18 2014 03:27 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 03:24 BaneRiders wrote:
Ok, so here is a game conduct manual for professionals:

  • When losing a game, type gg and leave.


Alternatively

  • When losing a game to a cheesy tactic, type gc and leave.


If there is a need to rage, step inside a soundproof wardrobe*, close the door and shout until you feel better. If this happens every so often, deploy a teddy bear in the wardrobe for extended hugging sessions.


*You will have to build this one before you start laddering

Someone should make an extension mod that if you don't type "glhf" you can't make anything, and you can't leave the game if you don't type "gg".
Be sure to type glhf before you make your first worker :')
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 09:32:42
March 22 2014 09:32 GMT
#102
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.
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Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 09:34:16
March 22 2014 09:32 GMT
#103
On March 22 2014 17:33 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same

Just because you're scared of human contact doesn't mean it should be completely disabled for everyone.
No chat -> no communication -> sad fucking place for fat geeks to grow ugly.

On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.

You've never had a real job, have you?

User was temp banned for this post.
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
March 22 2014 09:33 GMT
#104
You don't need to be a progamer to be wished cancer though. I got wished cancer many times but I don't think I am one.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 09:38:30
March 22 2014 09:37 GMT
#105
On March 22 2014 18:32 Passion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 17:33 SmoKim wrote:
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same

Just because you're scared of human contact doesn't mean it should be completely disabled for everyone.
No chat -> no communication -> sad fucking place for fat geeks to grow ugly.

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.

You've never had a real job, have you?

I did, and it made me feel way better than being a progamer. Progaming can give you things that are exceptional, like traveling to tournaments, meeting your friends from around the world and being close to so many people sharing your passion and dreams. On the other hand, the everyday life is just something a human being is not built to handle without frequent breakdowns.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28478 Posts
March 22 2014 10:10 GMT
#106
On March 22 2014 18:37 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 18:32 Passion wrote:
On March 22 2014 17:33 SmoKim wrote:
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same

Just because you're scared of human contact doesn't mean it should be completely disabled for everyone.
No chat -> no communication -> sad fucking place for fat geeks to grow ugly.

On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.

You've never had a real job, have you?

I did, and it made me feel way better than being a progamer. Progaming can give you things that are exceptional, like traveling to tournaments, meeting your friends from around the world and being close to so many people sharing your passion and dreams. On the other hand, the everyday life is just something a human being is not built to handle without frequent breakdowns.

Wow Cloud, this sounds a little like a apology for some of the "lesser appropriate" behavior you showed in the past. It would be cool to see you write a blog about this, one in which you only look in the mirror and not accuse others of wrongdoings. I'm not being sarcastic.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3368 Posts
March 22 2014 10:30 GMT
#107
As far as I remember (and I met the guy in the French WCG qualifiers in 2011), Firecake was always BM and absolutely unfriendly. I think it has more to do with his personality than with the fact is a progamer.
Now, Cloud, I do agree that this is a stressful environment and that it could have made him worse than he was at first, but I wouldn't go as far as to call him a victim.
At any case, I hope he grows up (mentally) but usually this is what some of the viewers want to see...
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 10:54:58
March 22 2014 10:54 GMT
#108
On March 22 2014 19:10 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 18:37 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:32 Passion wrote:
On March 22 2014 17:33 SmoKim wrote:
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same

Just because you're scared of human contact doesn't mean it should be completely disabled for everyone.
No chat -> no communication -> sad fucking place for fat geeks to grow ugly.

On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.

You've never had a real job, have you?

I did, and it made me feel way better than being a progamer. Progaming can give you things that are exceptional, like traveling to tournaments, meeting your friends from around the world and being close to so many people sharing your passion and dreams. On the other hand, the everyday life is just something a human being is not built to handle without frequent breakdowns.

Wow Cloud, this sounds a little like a apology for some of the "lesser appropriate" behavior you showed in the past. It would be cool to see you write a blog about this, one in which you only look in the mirror and not accuse others of wrongdoings. I'm not being sarcastic.

I believe the general mentality of being super sensitive about everything, getting offended over petty insults and condemning whoever shows what everybody think is "unappropriate" behaviour is retarded and immature. I don't think anyone should apologize publicly or to the community for offenses that have been made privately. But people who have no part in it want to feel like they belong to the big show so they resort to condemning on forums, expressing opinions on things they partially know and being judgemental as fuck.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28478 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 11:43:36
March 22 2014 11:35 GMT
#109
On March 22 2014 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 19:10 Penev wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:37 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:32 Passion wrote:
On March 22 2014 17:33 SmoKim wrote:
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same

Just because you're scared of human contact doesn't mean it should be completely disabled for everyone.
No chat -> no communication -> sad fucking place for fat geeks to grow ugly.

On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.

You've never had a real job, have you?

I did, and it made me feel way better than being a progamer. Progaming can give you things that are exceptional, like traveling to tournaments, meeting your friends from around the world and being close to so many people sharing your passion and dreams. On the other hand, the everyday life is just something a human being is not built to handle without frequent breakdowns.

Wow Cloud, this sounds a little like a apology for some of the "lesser appropriate" behavior you showed in the past. It would be cool to see you write a blog about this, one in which you only look in the mirror and not accuse others of wrongdoings. I'm not being sarcastic.

I believe the general mentality of being super sensitive about everything, getting offended over petty insults and condemning whoever shows what everybody think is "unappropriate" behaviour is retarded and immature. I don't think anyone should apologize publicly or to the community for offenses that have been made privately. But people who have no part in it want to feel like they belong to the big show so they resort to condemning on forums, expressing opinions on things they partially know and being judgemental as fuck.

Edit: I misunderstood, sorry, because you misunderstood me. I meant public inappropriate behavior, like posts in these threads and blogs.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 12:13:24
March 22 2014 12:12 GMT
#110
On March 22 2014 19:54 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 19:10 Penev wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:37 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:32 Passion wrote:
On March 22 2014 17:33 SmoKim wrote:
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same

Just because you're scared of human contact doesn't mean it should be completely disabled for everyone.
No chat -> no communication -> sad fucking place for fat geeks to grow ugly.

On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.

You've never had a real job, have you?

I did, and it made me feel way better than being a progamer. Progaming can give you things that are exceptional, like traveling to tournaments, meeting your friends from around the world and being close to so many people sharing your passion and dreams. On the other hand, the everyday life is just something a human being is not built to handle without frequent breakdowns.

Wow Cloud, this sounds a little like a apology for some of the "lesser appropriate" behavior you showed in the past. It would be cool to see you write a blog about this, one in which you only look in the mirror and not accuse others of wrongdoings. I'm not being sarcastic.

I believe the general mentality of being super sensitive about everything, getting offended over petty insults and condemning whoever shows what everybody think is "unappropriate" behaviour is retarded and immature. I don't think anyone should apologize publicly or to the community for offenses that have been made privately. But people who have no part in it want to feel like they belong to the big show so they resort to condemning on forums, expressing opinions on things they partially know and being judgemental as fuck.


I like your post Cloud, people should have a bit skin. The problem with insults are that some of them are petty to some but outrageous to others, and this is depending on culture, religion, sensitive skin and what have you. As it were, if a player does insult someone privately, it would be, in my opinion, clever to apologize for it to the person he/she insulted (apart from being the right thing to do of course). This can be done privately too and it would diffuse any future drama nonsense.

The point is, when insults made in private, e.g., on the ladder, and then screen shots leak out through twitter or whatever, they are not private anymore, they are in the public domain. If the offender would have apologized for his/her behavior chances are that insults don't become public in the first place, and even if they do, the offender can simply say that something like "I was upset, I said some stupid things that I shouldn't have in the heat of the moment, but then I apologized to XXX for it afterwards when I cooled down." No need for a full public apology to the community as such after that, and certainly there would be no need for the community to get up in arms about it either.

Well, all too much preaching sometimes, we need to remember that SC2 is supposed to be fun. On this positive note, I would like to share this hilarious movie clip with those of you that haven't seen it yet. Chevy Chase as Fletch is bullying a poor foreman to get some confidential information, and when he gets what he wants, he apologizes for his behavior, but he still stays in his asshole character, refusing to apologize for being wrong:




Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 22 2014 13:13 GMT
#111
On March 22 2014 18:37 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 18:32 Passion wrote:
On March 22 2014 17:33 SmoKim wrote:
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same

Just because you're scared of human contact doesn't mean it should be completely disabled for everyone.
No chat -> no communication -> sad fucking place for fat geeks to grow ugly.

On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.

You've never had a real job, have you?

I did, and it made me feel way better than being a progamer. Progaming can give you things that are exceptional, like traveling to tournaments, meeting your friends from around the world and being close to so many people sharing your passion and dreams. On the other hand, the everyday life is just something a human being is not built to handle without frequent breakdowns.

while i was never a progamer, just from imagining myself in the role of one i think this is probably true for a lot of people and i'm almost certain it would be true for me (and in fact it is part of why i made the decision not to even really try to become one when i essentially had the chance). the interesting question then is: why do people choose to become progamers? not only is it an "extremely unhealthy lifestyle", as you said, but it also doesn't pay well unless you're at the very top, you're not really "famous" and it is a very unstable business. obviously in a way i'm grateful that there are people that choose to do it (since i love watching them) but at the same time i kinda feel for them since clearly a lot of people are not happy with their decision in the long run.
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xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
March 22 2014 13:23 GMT
#112
On March 22 2014 22:13 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 18:37 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:32 Passion wrote:
On March 22 2014 17:33 SmoKim wrote:
On March 22 2014 14:16 Arson_ wrote:
I wish they would just make there a way to disable chat altogether.


That's the best feature of Hearthstone imo. No chat -> No communcation -> No BM (unless ofc you are friends). LoL should have been the same

Just because you're scared of human contact doesn't mean it should be completely disabled for everyone.
No chat -> no communication -> sad fucking place for fat geeks to grow ugly.

On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.

You've never had a real job, have you?

I did, and it made me feel way better than being a progamer. Progaming can give you things that are exceptional, like traveling to tournaments, meeting your friends from around the world and being close to so many people sharing your passion and dreams. On the other hand, the everyday life is just something a human being is not built to handle without frequent breakdowns.

while i was never a progamer, just from imagining myself in the role of one i think this is probably true for a lot of people and i'm almost certain it would be true for me (and in fact it is part of why i made the decision not to even really try to become one when i essentially had the chance). the interesting question then is: why do people choose to become progamers? not only is it an "extremely unhealthy lifestyle", as you said, but it also doesn't pay well unless you're at the very top, you're not really "famous" and it is a very unstable business. obviously in a way i'm grateful that there are people that choose to do it (since i love watching them) but at the same time i kinda feel for them since clearly a lot of people are not happy with their decision in the long run.


for the love of the game .
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
March 22 2014 22:17 GMT
#113
On March 22 2014 18:32 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 18:11 Karpfen wrote:
On March 17 2014 06:02 kaykoose wrote:
I'm sure being a progamer is stressful as fuck but I don't see how it could be hard to simply type GG and leave the game. The extra stuff is so ridiculous

Probably way less than an ordinary job. Inb4 videogame squadron on me.

You are so wrong. You don't get people doing ordinary jobs getting so stressed that they wish your family cancer. The extremely unhealthy lifestyle, lack of social communication and deep feelings of unfairness being a progamer provides are something rather unique, in a bad way. Not everybody can handle it. In fact Firecake is a victim, and hopefully he finds something else to do that brings him more peace of mind.


I don't think his job being stressful justifies his actions in any way shape or form. He's not a victim. He's a willing participant in a system that causes stress, and guess what, theres a ton of others just like him facing the exact same stress (if not more so) and they don't act this way. Calling him a victim takes blame away from him, and thats beyond wrong imo.
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