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Everyone who has these comments like "Oh, I've been watching for years but am bored now" doesn't seem to understand- The problem is personal, not with the game.
People get bored of everything. The fact that you could watch for years and just now get bored is an indication of how interesting SC2 is to watch.
If you don't find it entertaining, take a break!
I basically stopped playing and watched very little for around 6 months after HoTS came out, because I was bored.
I am back to playing now and in fact, this last season has been my most active since the first couple seasons of WoL.
I still absolutely love the game, both playing and watching, and the quality as a spectator is honestly SO much better now. Go back and try to watch games from 2011-2012 now and it's almost painful. The game has developed so much, not just in play, but also in the polish of the commentating, tournaments, interface and so forth.
You may find the game boring, but that is subjective. Objectively, it cannot be argued that it hasn't drastically improved.
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Dunno, I watched BW since 2005 and I was never bored. I know guys who have played CS since 2000ish and still have a great time with it. Truly amazing games are timeless.
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On March 09 2014 09:52 ssregitoss wrote:
check the viewer numbers.it tells the truth.nothing else.boring to watch.
The viewer numbers that have shown substantial growth in viewership for regular weekly content you mean?
I wonder how long some of the people who have been saying this have actually been around. I was around when IPL, NASL and even Proleague were getting 5-10k concurrents at most, not the 15-20k WCS NA, 20k+ Proleague or 30-40k WCS EU is getting now
What we have actually seen, is a shift in how Starcraft is consumed and the kind of events that are being put on on a regular basis, which has resulted in some strange numbers that people without proper perspective interpret is DEDGAEM.
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On March 10 2014 02:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 09:52 ssregitoss wrote:
check the viewer numbers.it tells the truth.nothing else.boring to watch. The viewer numbers that have shown substantial growth in viewership for regular weekly content you mean? I wonder how long some of the people who have been saying this have actually been around. I was around when IPL, NASL and even Proleague were getting 5-10k concurrents at most, not the 15-20k WCS NA, 20k+ Proleague or 30-40k WCS EU is getting now What we have actually seen, is a shift in how Starcraft is consumed and the kind of events that are being put on on a regular basis, which has resulted in some strange numbers that people without proper perspective interpret is DEDGAEM.
not to mention, big events still pull in 100k concurrent viewers. I'd be surprised if IEM WC doesn't hit 100k this coming week.
NASL had problems from the start. Look at all the people they have lost recently. Its not the viewership that made NASL shut down, but far more behind the scenes stuff. When you lose Frodan, Gretorp and Mr. Bitter all within a few months, that says something. These guys were all more than casters for NASL.
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On March 10 2014 02:07 Squat wrote:
Dunno, I watched BW since 2005 and I was never bored. I know guys who have played CS since 2000ish and still have a great time with it. Truly amazing games are timeless.
And I know people who are still loving SC2. Myself included.
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On March 10 2014 02:03 muzzy wrote:
Everyone who has these comments like "Oh, I've been watching for years but am bored now" doesn't seem to understand- The problem is personal, not with the game.
People get bored of everything. The fact that you could watch for years and just now get bored is an indication of how interesting SC2 is to watch.
If you don't find it entertaining, take a break!
Well I enjoy(ed) four games WC3, BW, CS1.6 and Quake for years (I want them back, they were never boring) and the "successors" sc2 and CS:GO are very boring (for me) to watch in comparison to the four games (for me).
Now I can only follow sc2 because I can't enjoy LOL, DOTA2 and other stuff. Actually I have never enjoyed sc2 but I need a game to watch which I can enjoy.
leaving esports is never a thing for me.
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On March 10 2014 02:26 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 02:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On March 09 2014 09:52 ssregitoss wrote:
check the viewer numbers.it tells the truth.nothing else.boring to watch. The viewer numbers that have shown substantial growth in viewership for regular weekly content you mean? I wonder how long some of the people who have been saying this have actually been around. I was around when IPL, NASL and even Proleague were getting 5-10k concurrents at most, not the 15-20k WCS NA, 20k+ Proleague or 30-40k WCS EU is getting now What we have actually seen, is a shift in how Starcraft is consumed and the kind of events that are being put on on a regular basis, which has resulted in some strange numbers that people without proper perspective interpret is DEDGAEM. not to mention, big events still pull in 100k concurrent viewers. I'd be surprised if IEM WC doesn't hit 100k this coming week. NASL had problems from the start. Look at all the people they have lost recently. Its not the viewership that made NASL shut down, but far more behind the scenes stuff. When you lose Frodan, Gretorp and Mr. Bitter all within a few months, that says something. These guys were all more than casters for NASL.
IEM WC will go over 100k. Mark my words on that.
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On March 10 2014 02:03 muzzy wrote:
Everyone who has these comments like "Oh, I've been watching for years but am bored now" doesn't seem to understand- The problem is personal, not with the game.
People get bored of everything. The fact that you could watch for years and just now get bored is an indication of how interesting SC2 is to watch.
If you don't find it entertaining, take a break!
I basically stopped playing and watched very little for around 6 months after HoTS came out, because I was bored.
I am back to playing now and in fact, this last season has been my most active since the first couple seasons of WoL.
I still absolutely love the game, both playing and watching, and the quality as a spectator is honestly SO much better now. Go back and try to watch games from 2011-2012 now and it's almost painful. The game has developed so much, not just in play, but also in the polish of the commentating, tournaments, interface and so forth.
You may find the game boring, but that is subjective. Objectively, it cannot be argued that it hasn't drastically improved.
Oh, come on... That's such a cop-out it isn't even funny. The quality of the game has deteriorated since HotS. Swarm Hosts ARE boring to watch unless something spectacular happens, PvT is mostly predictable, and ZvZ makes me want to Alt-F4 any broadcast with how ridiculously stale that M/U is.
The game itself isn't boring to watch, it's just not where it needs to be on the fun-o-meter.
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On March 10 2014 02:42 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 02:03 muzzy wrote:
Everyone who has these comments like "Oh, I've been watching for years but am bored now" doesn't seem to understand- The problem is personal, not with the game.
People get bored of everything. The fact that you could watch for years and just now get bored is an indication of how interesting SC2 is to watch.
If you don't find it entertaining, take a break!
I basically stopped playing and watched very little for around 6 months after HoTS came out, because I was bored.
I am back to playing now and in fact, this last season has been my most active since the first couple seasons of WoL.
I still absolutely love the game, both playing and watching, and the quality as a spectator is honestly SO much better now. Go back and try to watch games from 2011-2012 now and it's almost painful. The game has developed so much, not just in play, but also in the polish of the commentating, tournaments, interface and so forth.
You may find the game boring, but that is subjective. Objectively, it cannot be argued that it hasn't drastically improved. Oh, come on... That's such a cop-out it isn't even funny. The quality of the game has deteriorated since HotS. Swarm Hosts ARE boring to watch unless something spectacular happens, PvT is mostly predictable, and ZvZ makes me want to Alt-F4 any broadcast with how ridiculously stale that M/U is. The game itself isn't boring to watch, it's just not where it needs to be on the fun-o-meter.
Did you want Broodlord Infestor back?
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On March 10 2014 02:27 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 02:07 Squat wrote:
Dunno, I watched BW since 2005 and I was never bored. I know guys who have played CS since 2000ish and still have a great time with it. Truly amazing games are timeless. And I know people who are still loving SC2. Myself included.
Sc2 could become one, too early to tell. Point was that if a game is good enough you can play and watch it for decades and still enjoy it. I've watched hockey since we won the Olympics 1994, never got bored of it.
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Is it due to the viewers? SC2 doesnt even reach the front page of twitch anymore at times
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My question here is what does it say about total prize pool money for 2014? Losing MLG is a shame because as far as I'm concerned they have historically had the best production value, or anyway my favorite - but we also lost MLG's prize pools. So where does losing NASL leave us?
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On March 10 2014 03:08 Yezzus wrote:
Is it due to the viewers? SC2 doesnt even reach the front page of twitch anymore at times
The amount of people watching player streams has dropped significantly, but SC2 is still part of the "Big 3" when there are major tournaments on.
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On March 10 2014 02:03 muzzy wrote:
Everyone who has these comments like "Oh, I've been watching for years but am bored now" doesn't seem to understand- The problem is personal, not with the game.
People get bored of everything. The fact that you could watch for years and just now get bored is an indication of how interesting SC2 is to watch.
If you don't find it entertaining, take a break!
I basically stopped playing and watched very little for around 6 months after HoTS came out, because I was bored.
I am back to playing now and in fact, this last season has been my most active since the first couple seasons of WoL.
I still absolutely love the game, both playing and watching, and the quality as a spectator is honestly SO much better now. Go back and try to watch games from 2011-2012 now and it's almost painful. The game has developed so much, not just in play, but also in the polish of the commentating, tournaments, interface and so forth.
You may find the game boring, but that is subjective. Objectively, it cannot be argued that it hasn't drastically improved.
Think this is a very good post a lot of people should read.
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On March 10 2014 04:16 Djzapz wrote:
My question here is what does it say about total prize pool money for 2014? Losing MLG is a shame because as far as I'm concerned they have historically had the best production value, or anyway my favorite - but we also lost MLG's prize pools. So where does losing NASL leave us?
Well we havent heard of any plans from NASL about standalone tournaments, so I guess nothing would change in terms of total prize pool. And since they left SC2 so abruptely I doubt there was ever going to be another NASL. Also MLG is back(for atleast Anaheim), so thats nice.
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On March 10 2014 02:57 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 02:27 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 10 2014 02:07 Squat wrote:
Dunno, I watched BW since 2005 and I was never bored. I know guys who have played CS since 2000ish and still have a great time with it. Truly amazing games are timeless. And I know people who are still loving SC2. Myself included. Sc2 could become one, too early to tell. Point was that if a game is good enough you can play and watch it for decades and still enjoy it. I've watched hockey since we won the Olympics 1994, never got bored of it.
In my book any game that can make players play it more then a month (like me for instance) and can play it for 4 years is one of those games.
I have very few games that can keep me interested longer then a month, those being age of empires series (2, age of mythology + expo, aoe3), Starcraft 1 and 2
Those are the only games that I have played a lot longer then a month straight and more then an hour when I would play them. Love those games :D.
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On March 10 2014 05:07 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 02:57 Squat wrote:On March 10 2014 02:27 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 10 2014 02:07 Squat wrote:
Dunno, I watched BW since 2005 and I was never bored. I know guys who have played CS since 2000ish and still have a great time with it. Truly amazing games are timeless. And I know people who are still loving SC2. Myself included. Sc2 could become one, too early to tell. Point was that if a game is good enough you can play and watch it for decades and still enjoy it. I've watched hockey since we won the Olympics 1994, never got bored of it. In my book any game that can make players play it more then a month (like me for instance) and can play it for 4 years is one of those games. I have very few games that can keep me interested longer then a month, those being age of empires series (2, age of mythology + expo, aoe3), Starcraft 1 and 2 Those are the only games that I have played a lot longer then a month straight and more then an hour when I would play them. Love those games :D.
Peoples enjoyment of SC2 is going to come in waves. I really give no shits about baseball unless the Redsox are playing. Same with Hockey. I don't watch Dota unless a team I like is playing. The idea that people will watch every single match of the GSL, or any other event, every season is crazy.
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On March 10 2014 04:16 Djzapz wrote:
My question here is what does it say about total prize pool money for 2014? Losing MLG is a shame because as far as I'm concerned they have historically had the best production value, or anyway my favorite - but we also lost MLG's prize pools. So where does losing NASL leave us?
We never lost MLG...
They didn't run sc2 at one event in the past 4 years. One. And that was because Red Bull had an event going on that weekend as well. And the same thing might happen with Dota 2 at Anaheim for MLG. With the amount of events happening, they might be dropping Dota from the event. Yet people aren't saying MLG is abandoning Dota 2.
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On March 10 2014 05:13 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 04:16 Djzapz wrote:
My question here is what does it say about total prize pool money for 2014? Losing MLG is a shame because as far as I'm concerned they have historically had the best production value, or anyway my favorite - but we also lost MLG's prize pools. So where does losing NASL leave us? We never lost MLG... They didn't run sc2 at one event in the past 4 years. One. And that was because Red Bull had an event going on that weekend as well. And the same thing might happen with Dota 2 at Anaheim for MLG. With the amount of events happening, they might be dropping Dota from the event. Yet people aren't saying MLG is abandoning Dota 2.
I haven't seen it in a while I guess, my bad.
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Starcraft 2 hasn't been fun for me since beginning of 2013. i watched excessively almost everything from 10-13 when the hype was high and the players were interesting and fun but now, i just feel it's meh
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