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Dasian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 06:08:01
March 05 2014 06:03 GMT
#1
Well ok...not exactly "rally"...

But instead of using the base camera to collect every single queen, consider this alternative to collect all of your recently built queens!

The idea that this might work this came to me in a dream, and I nearly soiled myself when I tried this out and my dreams became a reality. Ok ok I'll admit... I actually soiled myself...

I present to you, Dasian's Queen Alert Gathering Technique!!!!

Let mass Queen strategies be unlocked for noobs of all APM levels, and may the meta never heal

For the Swarm!!!!

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TimKim0713
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)221 Posts
March 05 2014 06:06 GMT
#2
uhh... I wonder why zerg players actually need to rally queens...

It's never useful unless its super late game, or it's a custom game
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
March 05 2014 06:13 GMT
#3
On March 05 2014 15:06 TimKim0713 wrote:
uhh... I wonder why zerg players actually need to rally queens...

It's never useful unless its super late game, or it's a custom game


Queens are extremly good against voids, in my opinion better than hydralisks.
If you are low on gas you can build them to defend voidray allins or even in the lategame against mass voids, if enemy got no HTs. Also they are quite fine in an ultralisk composition.
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coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
March 05 2014 06:14 GMT
#4
Oh didn't know, cool
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 05 2014 06:24 GMT
#5
On March 05 2014 15:06 TimKim0713 wrote:
uhh... I wonder why zerg players actually need to rally queens...

It's never useful unless its super late game, or it's a custom game


Monobattles.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 05 2014 06:29 GMT
#6
On March 05 2014 15:06 TimKim0713 wrote:
uhh... I wonder why zerg players actually need to rally queens...

It's never useful unless its super late game, or it's a custom game


or, like, you're trying to defend against a protoss 2 base all in and you need units that don't cost larva...
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oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
March 05 2014 06:32 GMT
#7
thanks, I never tried this before
definitely useful in zvp
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 05 2014 06:34 GMT
#8
Seems useful as mentioned for some of the instances above, though it's more of an idea to use an existing feature from Blizzard and not really a new technique.

Kind of makes you want to just play Monobattles and pick Queen merely for this though lol
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menasor
Profile Joined February 2013
United States26 Posts
March 05 2014 06:34 GMT
#9
Sick. Bravo bravo!
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freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
March 05 2014 07:41 GMT
#10
queens are real good :|
against hellion, banshee, all things protoss except templars (oh god i hate templars), and also in zvz, heals are strong in most phases of the game. you don't need to be maxed on queens but i see a use for this to us low apm noobz :|
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3489 Posts
March 05 2014 07:53 GMT
#11
Hmm, but if you spawn 3 queens, then a ling, then 2 queens, then a drone, wouldn't you have to press 5 buttons, not to mention some might get lost, due to too many actions.
Isn't select all army command better?
But it's certainly a feature that is not being used by anyone I think.
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wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
March 05 2014 07:57 GMT
#12
Thanks, didnt know it.
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Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
March 05 2014 08:03 GMT
#13
On March 05 2014 15:06 TimKim0713 wrote:
uhh... I wonder why zerg players actually need to rally queens...

It's never useful unless its super late game, or it's a custom game


Queens never useful unless it's super late game? Oh you poor thing, you have no idea how good they are
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Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
March 05 2014 08:04 GMT
#14
Yep, knew it, but thanks for the reminder, because it is something I had forgotten at one point.
I haven't ended up with a lot of queens in recent times, but I was using this when last I was!
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 05 2014 08:05 GMT
#15
On March 05 2014 16:53 ejozl wrote:
Hmm, but if you spawn 3 queens, then a ling, then 2 queens, then a drone, wouldn't you have to press 5 buttons, not to mention some might get lost, due to too many actions.
Isn't select all army command better?
But it's certainly a feature that is not being used by anyone I think.


Does select all army select queens as well? Didn't know that, that is weird.

And you would just have to press one additional button. Hold ctrl, click first 3 queen icon then 2 queen icon, then rally/add to control group!
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Dasian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States41 Posts
March 05 2014 08:13 GMT
#16
On March 05 2014 17:05 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 16:53 ejozl wrote:
Hmm, but if you spawn 3 queens, then a ling, then 2 queens, then a drone, wouldn't you have to press 5 buttons, not to mention some might get lost, due to too many actions.
Isn't select all army command better?
But it's certainly a feature that is not being used by anyone I think.


Does select all army select queens as well? Didn't know that, that is weird.

And you would just have to press one additional button. Hold ctrl, click first 3 queen icon then 2 queen icon, then rally/add to control group!


Select army does NOT select queens. In HOTS beta it did, but people hated it so they are excluded
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 05 2014 08:15 GMT
#17
Ah, this is cool! I've always been tempted by the idea of building extra queens to beef up my army without spending gas, but the lack of rally point is definitely a big minus for me. I'll try it out next time the occasion presents itself.

Btw, how long does the notification stay there? How fast do I have to be?
Dasian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States41 Posts
March 05 2014 08:17 GMT
#18
Only a couple of seconds if that. You definitely have to be ready for it, especially if a lot of other stuff is building.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 05 2014 08:27 GMT
#19
On March 05 2014 17:17 Dasian wrote:
Only a couple of seconds if that. You definitely have to be ready for it, especially if a lot of other stuff is building.

Hmm, may be tricky at my silver level reaction speed and awareness, but every time I catch it I'll save me some time I guess.
BananaJunkie
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark119 Posts
March 05 2014 08:48 GMT
#20
Hmm this feature have been know since WoL :D I´ve done this for over a year
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v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
March 05 2014 13:53 GMT
#21
Queens spawn near hatches.
Hatches are checked very ofte :you should spam your camera bindings every 15 seconds.
So if you want to hotkey new queens you don't have to use this feature and look out for alerts...
It was a nice idea but I wouldn't recommand trying it : it could be a bad habit to catch.
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Boogie with Stu
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands16 Posts
March 05 2014 14:00 GMT
#22
On March 05 2014 22:53 v_lm wrote:
Queens spawn near hatches.
Hatches are checked very ofte :you should spam your camera bindings every 15 seconds.
So if you want to hotkey new queens you don't have to use this feature and look out for alerts...
It was a nice idea but I wouldn't recommand trying it : it could be a bad habit to catch.

You would mostly use this whenever you need to go mass queens like against Voidrays, where it can be quite a hassle going through your bases and selecting all the queens individually.
Did not know this, good tip!
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
March 05 2014 14:13 GMT
#23
Wouldn't this also grab any other units that were recently made, they all show up in that tab don't they?

But it's a neat find if not, thanks for sharing!
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 05 2014 14:24 GMT
#24
A neat discovery
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NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
March 05 2014 14:32 GMT
#25
On March 05 2014 17:05 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 16:53 ejozl wrote:
Hmm, but if you spawn 3 queens, then a ling, then 2 queens, then a drone, wouldn't you have to press 5 buttons, not to mention some might get lost, due to too many actions.
Isn't select all army command better?
But it's certainly a feature that is not being used by anyone I think.


Does select all army select queens as well? Didn't know that, that is weird.

And you would just have to press one additional button. Hold ctrl, click first 3 queen icon then 2 queen icon, then rally/add to control group!


actually iirc you will select all 5 of them by clicking on the most recent "queen has been built"-notification.

Dasian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States41 Posts
March 05 2014 15:43 GMT
#26
On March 05 2014 23:13 Noobity wrote:
Wouldn't this also grab any other units that were recently made, they all show up in that tab don't they?

But it's a neat find if not, thanks for sharing!


No, the alert shows a picture of a Queen specifically, and as they pop the number in the alert increments. If you made other units they would get their own separate alert icon
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
March 05 2014 22:53 GMT
#27
Sick city. As new alerts pop up do they move the first alert or appear below it in descending order? J/W if this alert moves around or not. Being able to use precise muscle memory would be pretty important.
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 06 2014 12:35 GMT
#28
On March 05 2014 22:53 v_lm wrote:
Queens spawn near hatches.
Hatches are checked very ofte :you should spam your camera bindings every 15 seconds.
So if you want to hotkey new queens you don't have to use this feature and look out for alerts...
It was a nice idea but I wouldn't recommand trying it : it could be a bad habit to catch.

The main annoyance for me, the few times I've built larger number of queens, has been that I wasn't really sure which queen was the inject queen. It is not always convenient to have the inject queen at the top of the hatch to be able to tell the difference. And if you select your queen hotkey you can't keep shift-selecting the other queens you want in your army... This method would solve that.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 13:05:37
March 06 2014 13:01 GMT
#29
Already explained here long time ago

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/420454-faster-and-easier-multiple-queen-production


More explanation on alert-system

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/420454-faster-and-easier-multiple-queen-production?page=2#21
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