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borussia1871
Belgium23 Posts
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
On February 26 2014 01:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote: How dare people want to watch other games? its a random ccg with poor polishing compared to other blizzard titles (graphic bugs yay), and no more than a daily grind with no social interactions except your friends from other blizzard games, its f2p tablet or mobilephone quality, and i dont see much candycrush tournaments... i do not think it can establish itself as an esport (seeing the "competition" is limited to a dozen players worldwide at most for months now and the game in general has apart from deckbuilding not to much depth compared to Magic for example) well ofc this is only my opinion! everyone can enjoy HS at their own leisure (or uninstall it when the point of daily grinding for legendaries kicks in) | ||
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
On February 26 2014 01:38 Legio wrote: Went to their store to check out the sponsors products, and they have nothing to sell. No stock and no date when their products arrive. Because they are completely sold out. I grabbed one for myself it the seats are really awesome. | ||
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Guileful
Kazakhstan137 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 26 2014 01:48 Naphal wrote: its a random ccg with poor polishing compared to other blizzard titles Poor polishing? You realize what you're saying is literally the opposite of what most people praise about this game? On February 26 2014 01:48 Naphal wrote: (graphic bugs yay) Good thing it's still in beta! (also you're implying Wings of Liberty didn't have its fair share of bugs on release, let alone in beta, and those were more than just UI/graphical) On February 26 2014 01:48 Naphal wrote: and no more than a daily grind It's only a grind if you don't enjoy the actual mechanics of a card game. Or if you're really really bad and can't make enough Gold from Arenas to keep going. :/ On February 26 2014 01:48 Naphal wrote: with no social interactions except your friends from other blizzard games, I don't get this... See, not having chat rooms in SC2 was a problem because SC2 has gamemodes and custom maps that let you play with lots of people. Why exactly should this functionality exist in a game that is decidedly 1v1 and nothing more? I mean it wouldn't hurt if it did, but to be honest it's far less relevant than it was in, say, SC2, where you actually might want to organize team games or fun nights with UMS but couldn't do that within the game itself. On February 26 2014 01:48 Naphal wrote: its f2p tablet or mobilephone quality, and i dont see much candycrush tournaments... What does that even mean? And as an addendum, I sincerely wonder how many of the people who say "oh it has less depth than MtG" have actually played MtG at any point in their lives. Not because it's false or anything, but it seems like people just regurgitate this over and over again as if it's some super important point that should prevent people from caring about this game. Guess what, my good friend? LoL has arguably less depth than DotA. Do you see how big it is? Hell, SC2 has less depth than Brood War, why should it have an esports scene when a superior game already exists?  Do you see how ridiculous your arguments are? | ||
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AzBozz
Germany518 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On February 26 2014 01:48 Naphal wrote: its a random ccg with poor polishing compared to other blizzard titles (graphic bugs yay), and no more than a daily grind with no social interactions except your friends from other blizzard games, its f2p tablet or mobilephone quality, and i dont see much candycrush tournaments... i do not think it can establish itself as an esport (seeing the "competition" is limited to a dozen players worldwide at most for months now and the game in general has apart from deckbuilding not to much depth compared to Magic for example) well ofc this is only my opinion! everyone can enjoy HS at their own leisure (or uninstall it when the point of daily grinding for legendaries kicks in) It's the new thing on the block, it's popular and pulls a lot of viewers, (20k+ for some streamers daily stream) and has some overlap with SC2 fanbase. So from their perspective I understand including it. I agree with your comments on how crappy it's polish is though. | ||
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ratbert
Germany1041 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: It's the new thing on the block, it's popular and pulls a lot of viewers, (20k+ for some streamers daily stream) and has some overlap with SC2 fanbase. So from their perspective I understand including it. I agree with your comments on how crappy it's polish is though. A game in beta still has bugs (how extremely surprising and appalling), therefore its polish is crappy, even though it is visually and stylistically more impressive than literally every other big CCG/TCG out there. I'm sorry what? | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
On February 26 2014 01:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Poor polishing? You realize what you're saying is literally the opposite of what most people praise about this game? Good thing it's still in beta! (also you're implying Wings of Liberty didn't have its fair share of bugs on release, let alone in beta, and those were more than just UI/graphical) It's only a grind if you don't enjoy the actual mechanics of a card game. Or if you're really really bad and can't make enough Gold from Arenas to keep going. :/ I don't get this... See, not having chat rooms in SC2 was a problem because SC2 has gamemodes and custom maps that let you play with lots of people. Why exactly should this functionality exist in a game that is decidedly 1v1 and nothing more? I mean it wouldn't hurt if it did, but to be honest it's far less relevant than it was in, say, SC2, where you actually might want to organize team games or fun nights with UMS but couldn't do that within the game itself. What does that even mean? And as an addendum, I sincerely wonder how many of the people who say "oh it has less depth than MtG" have actually played MtG at any point in their lives. Not because it's false or anything, but it seems like people just regurgitate this over and over again as if it's some super important point that should prevent people from caring about this game. Guess what, my good friend? LoL has arguably less depth than DotA. Do you see how big it is? Hell, SC2 has less depth than Brood War, why should it have an esports scene when a superior game already exists? Do you see how ridiculous your arguments are?it is poorly polished, and already only balancing OP cards or FOTM and not even looking back at unused cards shows that blizzards support for this game will be even sub d3 level (look at devblogs or the "activitiy" of blues in HSforums) I have played MTG for years and hearthstone is a pisspoor clone for lazy people not wanting to leave their desk riding on the sinking WoWfranchise. LoL has a giant crew and is reworking and tuning the entire game in an, for a starcraft fan, enviable manner, it actually proves my point that great support and continuous work helps a game grow a lot, something blizzard could definitely learn from currently. a BW without the flaws of an aged game, masterfully reworked, might bomb sc2 out of existence, but as is, no chance i am afraid. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:03 AzBozz wrote: this is not replacing the normal homestory cup right? No it's not, don't worry. HSC will be as usual. I think in June, the weekend before or after DH, not sure yet. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:10 Naphal wrote: a BW without the flaws of an aged game, masterfully reworked, might bomb sc2 out of existence, but as is, no chance i am afraid. You implied that HS should not have an esports scene because it is objectively an inferior game to Magic. I retorted that SC2 should not have an esports scene because it is objectively an inferior game to Brood War. Using the same logic. It has nothing to do with popularity, just game mechanics and design, and as a direct result skill potential. But whatever, I see you're not a fan of critical thinking in general so I'm done arguing in this thread. Keep believing whatever you want to believe. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote: A game in beta still has bugs (how extremely surprising and appalling), therefore its polish is crappy, even though it is visually and stylistically more impressive than literally every other big CCG/TCG out there. I'm sorry what? There's several gamebreaking bugs that have been there for quite some months (minion switching, cards stacking, floating minions etc). Graphical glitches are everywhere. Magic Sprites keep disconnecting me during arena runs. They patch balance patches but not bug fixes. By far the worst quality I've seen from Blizzard. Still a very fun game nontheless and I like playing it. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: There's several gamebreaking bugs that have been there for quite some months (minion switching, cards stacking, floating minions etc). Graphical glitches are everywhere. Magic Sprites keep disconnecting me during arena runs. They patch balance patches but not bug fixes. By far the worst quality I've seen from Blizzard. Still a very fun game nontheless and I like playing it. Some people are quick to forget shit like Immortal warp-ins and various larva-related bugs, among others. I'd give them until release. If they don't clean this shit up before release, sure, I'll happily concede, but until then it's unreasonable to say "by far the worst quality" when WoL itself was plagued with just as bad if not worse issues, even for a short while after game launch. | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:14 MasterOfPuppets wrote: You implied that HS should not have an esports scene because it is objectively an inferior game to Magic. I retorted that SC2 should not have an esports scene because it is objectively an inferior game to Brood War. Using the same logic. It has nothing to do with popularity, just game mechanics and design, and as a direct result skill potential. But whatever, I see you're not a fan of critical thinking in general so I'm done arguing in this thread. Keep believing whatever you want to believe. i said HS does not deserve the same prize pool, especially for half the amount of players, the rest is your wishful reading, i also greatly dislike your attitude that starts with "my good friend" and ends with unfounded insults against my capacities of thinking, well better keep it civil. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:21 Naphal wrote: i said HS does not deserve the same prize pool, . The money goes where the attention and interest is, how is that unfair? If anything I could even argue Hearhstone deserves more by that metric, but that would be stretching it a bit and I'm sure some narrow-minded people with tunnel-vision would be quite upset if I did. | ||
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Taiwan931 Posts
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