EPTDo not take your case to a general, free for you to watch a stream of shit.
I prefer to watch a stream of high quality.
O'Gaming/Millenium/aAa and ESL dispute French stream for W…
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iknowthetrue
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Do not take your case to a general, free for you to watch a stream of shit. I prefer to watch a stream of high quality. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On February 19 2014 20:29 iknowthetrue wrote: @Faust852 Do not take your case to a general, free for you to watch a stream of shit. I prefer to watch a stream of high quality. I don't care about french stream, but do you prefere watching a stream of a lesser quality, or don't watch anything at all ? | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On February 19 2014 20:59 Faust852 wrote: I don't care about french stream, but do you prefere watching a stream of a lesser quality, or don't watch anything at all ? Don't watch at all because they can't afford to stream on Twitch. If they stream on it, they will close in one year. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:02 Aeromi wrote: Don't watch at all because they can't afford to stream on Twitch. If they stream on it, they will close in one year. There is no "afford" here. It cost nothing to Ogaming to stream except time. They don't invest anything. They will just earn less money with ads, but that's all. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3690 Posts
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:14 Faust852 wrote: There is no "afford" here. It cost nothing to Ogaming to stream except time. They don't invest anything. They will just earn less money with ads, but that's all. Yeah sure it costs nothing to have a studio and full time employees. Ogaming is not your bedroom streamer... | ||
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Murgi
Germany10 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:14 Faust852 wrote: There is no "afford" here. It cost nothing to Ogaming to stream except time. They don't invest anything. They will just earn less money with ads, but that's all. So all the people working on a stream will do it for free? Doing a stream in a studio is more expensive than you think. | ||
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klup
France612 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:14 Faust852 wrote: There is no "afford" here. It cost nothing to Ogaming to stream except time. They don't invest anything. They will just earn less money with ads, but that's all. For your concern when your a company , time is money, what they can't afford is the salary of people that cast. If they work 2-3 hours for almost no income to share between all the people involved then the company will sunk. They also have to payback the investment they made into all their devices. | ||
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klup
France612 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:16 Lorch wrote: Wait isn't GSL being streamed on GOMs Korean plattform, their mobile app and afreeca? Kinda funny how it's fine in Korea to use more than the official partner twich, while in Europe using dailymotion is a big deal? I think they recently switched to twitch.tv. I don't know if some of the others means of diffusion remains though. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:23 Faust852 wrote: Now they have a studio and full time employee and absolutely no income from WCS. What they have are infrastructures and employees, whether they stream or not, these are fix expense. Better streaming for low income then nothing at all, at least to time to find an agreement. Last 9 months were already spend trying to find an agreement, which has still not been found. Will you continue to make statements without thinking them through or just reading the thread beforehand ? Cause if yes, no need to continue posting. I'd loooove for Totalbiscuit to look at your two posts about streamers, I'd get a good laugh seeing his face :-D edit : the money they could win would be used not only to pay for infrastructures and streamers, to reimburse loans, to prove to investors they are sustainable, to gain exposure and offer the community more good quality shows like Iron Squid or Nation Wars, etc, etc, etc... to *grow* and not die a slow death. Please, think for a second. These are not "fixed expenses". lol. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3690 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:22 klup wrote: I think they recently switched to twitch.tv. I don't know if some of the others means of diffusion remains though. The English stream did, but since twitch is super laggy for Koreans (most of the time) the Korean stream is still not on twitch afaik. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:25 Nouar wrote: Last 9 months were already spend trying to find an agreement, which has still not been found. Will you continue to make statements without thinking them through or just reading the thread beforehand ? Cause if yes, no need to continue posting. I'd loooove for Totalbiscuit to look at your two posts about streamers, I'd get a good laugh seeing his face :-D edit : the money they could win would be used not only to pay for infrastructures and streamers, to reimburse loans, to prove to investors they are sustainable, to gain exposure and offer the community more good quality shows like Iron Squid or Nation Wars, etc, etc, etc... to *grow* and not die a slow death. Please, think for a second. These are not "fixed expenses". lol. C'mon, 9 months and they didn't even try too reach Blizzard? It's not because they send 1 or 2 emails in the 9 months prior WCS that I can that "negotiations". Btw, I post if I want to. For the TB argument, i'm pretty sure TB would do what can sustain him at least for the time it takes to find something else to do. I never stated we should stay in the statu quo, but at least streaming for a bit with Twitch, letting at least a bunch french people watching WCS, and getting a small income. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:16 Lorch wrote: Wait isn't GSL being streamed on GOMs Korean plattform, their mobile app and afreeca? Kinda funny how it's fine in Korea to use more than the official partner twich, while in Europe using dailymotion is a big deal? GOM is a partner of Blizzard, Dailymotion isn't. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3690 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:35 Faust852 wrote: GOM is a partner of Blizzard, Dailymotion isn't. And afreeca, iOS and Android are partners too? | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:34 Faust852 wrote: C'mon, 9 months and they didn't even try too reach Blizzard? It's not because they send 1 or 2 emails in the 9 months prior WCS that I can that "negotiations". Btw, I post if I want to. They went to Versailles to meet Blizzard several times. They are close to Blizzard, they talk with them everyday. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
I don't know about them, are you sure they stream on Afreeca ? Never heard about it, might be a restream too. If you can provide me an official Afreeca stream of WCS? I'll believe you for this one. What about iOS and Android? I don't get it. Afreeca app on smartphone or GOMexp on mobile? | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:38 Aeromi wrote: They went to Versailles to meet Blizzard several times. They are close to Blizzard, they talk with them everyday. So if Blizzard said no, there nothing to talk about, France is doomed and that's it. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3690 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:39 Faust852 wrote: I don't know about them, are you sure they stream on Afreeca ? Never heard about it, might be a restream too. If you can provide me an official Afreeca stream of WCS? I'll believe you for this one. What about iOS and Android? I don't get it. Afreeca app on smartphone or GOMexp on mobile? GOMexp app that you can use to watch live streams (even as a foreigner). Given that I'm not in Korea or using a VPN and can't read Korean properly I actually can't provide you with much, besides the fact that the little banner under the casters at gom says Afreeca for the Korean stream. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On February 19 2014 21:41 Lorch wrote: GOMexp app that you can use to watch live streams (even as a foreigner). Given that I'm not in Korea or using a VPN and can't read Korean properly I actually can't provide you with much, besides the fact that the little banner under the casters at gom says Afreeca for the Korean stream. I don't see any problem about the GOMexp app, mobile or not, they are still partner with WCS so they can stream on it. Ok, I just look at Afreeca, it seems that they are all restream, there are a shit tons of them tho. | ||
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