On February 14 2014 20:19 dabom88 wrote: This is what happens when your stuff is free. Growth is possible. I've been watching Proleague all season long, and have had very little reason or desire to watch GSL. When the SC2 audience was shrinking, it astounds me that GSL chose to go back to their restrictive paywall.
well you're not exactly adding to their live viewer counts anyway with that sig of yours.
1. My sig is about the paywall, nothing to do with Live Viewership. 2. And ultimately, restrictive business practices like that shouldn't be rewarded with higher viewer counts anyway. I'll gladly encourage people in areas where GSL is on in the middle of the night with no restreams to not buy into such restrictive business practices. Instead, I'll encourage people to watch tournaments where you don't have to be up in the middle of the night to watch, and support them by watching with Adblock turned off. I've even made posts detailing how to add ESportsTV to Youtube Whitelists because that's how much I want to support GOOD, pro-consumer and pro-viewership growth business practices.
On February 14 2014 20:19 dabom88 wrote: This is what happens when your stuff is free. Growth is possible. I've been watching Proleague all season long, and have had very little reason or desire to watch GSL. When the SC2 audience was shrinking, it astounds me that GSL chose to go back to their restrictive paywall.
Most hilarious sig I think I've ever seen on this forum.
No, people who think everything should be free are funny. Saying you don't want to pay is fine, claiming that it's wrong that they charge at all is just dumb.
On February 14 2014 20:19 dabom88 wrote: This is what happens when your stuff is free. Growth is possible. I've been watching Proleague all season long, and have had very little reason or desire to watch GSL. When the SC2 audience was shrinking, it astounds me that GSL chose to go back to their restrictive paywall.
well you're not exactly adding to their live viewer counts anyway with that sig of yours.
1. My sig is about the paywall, nothing to do with Live Viewership. 2. And ultimately, restrictive business practices like that shouldn't be rewarded with higher viewer counts anyway. I'll gladly encourage people in areas where GSL is on in the middle of the night with no restreams to not buy into such restrictive business practices. Instead, I'll encourage people to watch tournaments where you don't have to be up in the middle of the night to watch, and support them by watching with Adblock turned off. I've even made posts detailing how to add ESportsTV to Youtube Whitelists because that's how much I want to support GOOD, pro-consumer and pro-viewership growth business practices.
On February 14 2014 20:19 dabom88 wrote: This is what happens when your stuff is free. Growth is possible. I've been watching Proleague all season long, and have had very little reason or desire to watch GSL. When the SC2 audience was shrinking, it astounds me that GSL chose to go back to their restrictive paywall.
Most hilarious sig I think I've ever seen on this forum.
Truth in humor.
Do you demonstrate against pay TV networks? Netflix must be pure evil to you.
On February 14 2014 20:19 dabom88 wrote: This is what happens when your stuff is free. Growth is possible. I've been watching Proleague all season long, and have had very little reason or desire to watch GSL. When the SC2 audience was shrinking, it astounds me that GSL chose to go back to their restrictive paywall.
well you're not exactly adding to their live viewer counts anyway with that sig of yours.
1. My sig is about the paywall, nothing to do with Live Viewership. 2. And ultimately, restrictive business practices like that shouldn't be rewarded with higher viewer counts anyway. I'll gladly encourage people in areas where GSL is on in the middle of the night with no restreams to not buy into such restrictive business practices. Instead, I'll encourage people to watch tournaments where you don't have to be up in the middle of the night to watch, and support them by watching with Adblock turned off. I've even made posts detailing how to add ESportsTV to Youtube Whitelists because that's how much I want to support GOOD, pro-consumer and pro-viewership growth business practices.
On February 14 2014 20:52 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On February 14 2014 20:19 dabom88 wrote: This is what happens when your stuff is free. Growth is possible. I've been watching Proleague all season long, and have had very little reason or desire to watch GSL. When the SC2 audience was shrinking, it astounds me that GSL chose to go back to their restrictive paywall.
Most hilarious sig I think I've ever seen on this forum.
Truth in humor.
Do you demonstrate against pay TV networks? Netflix must be pure evil to you.
No, because I generally don't watch nor care about pay TV networks. Also, Netflix doesn't have competitors who are much better alternatives who put out content with much fairer business practices that help actually build viewership for the exact same content (Competitive Starcraft 2 in this case), so your comparison doesn't even work here.
On February 15 2014 07:21 Plansix wrote: I guess we shouldn't talk about pbs and the bbc.
In England we pay for the BBC by paying a yearly TV Licence. It's illegal to watch otherwise (including watching iPlayer).
People donate to PBS directly. And local channels are free in many sections the US. The point is that each network charges or does not charge based on what is best for them, just like GOM.
On February 14 2014 18:14 ROOTiaguz wrote: That's pretty awesome.
any news if there's Terrans in round 2?
i didnt know terrans still existed in proleague aside from being placeholders O_O
Maru, Ty and Flash still do exist, contrary to popular believe. If we are lucky, some of the balance map fixes should make it into the game soon, which should be plenty to fix TvP, depending on which ones they actually implement.
Tripling your online viewers isn't surprising. When they switched from regular TV to IPTV, it was a huge downgrade for publicity in the first place. As a result of the switch they lost a lot of viewers as SPOTV is a fairly unpopular broadcast channel compared to TV. Now that they've put more work into their SPOTV promotion and more people know that's where SC2 is they increased their viewership over time.
The problem is that this viewership is still worlds below what they had when they were on regular TV (ongamenet). They lost the masses.
On February 15 2014 09:23 Anomarad wrote: Tripling your online viewers isn't surprising. When they switched from regular TV to IPTV, it was a huge downgrade for publicity in the first place. As a result of the switch they lost a lot of viewers as SPOTV is a fairly unpopular broadcast channel compared to TV. Now that they've put more work into their SPOTV promotion and more people know that's where SC2 is they increased their viewership over time.
The problem is that this viewership is still worlds below what they had when they were on regular TV (ongamenet). They lost the masses.
Armchair Analyzers like you are funny to me. Lots of words, not so much reasoning and facts.
On February 15 2014 02:03 ChoiSulli wrote: time to rain in on the parade but did it triple from one viewer to three?? Unless they release the figures the fact it tripled dosent mean much. In fact it probably means the numbers were really shit... cause tripling from 100k to 300k would be difficult in just one season, from 10k to 30k not so much. So it really would be nice to know what it tripled from.
I will give props to pro league for the production and the turnaround time between sets but no matter how good that is the games are still boring as fuck...watching Flashes first game of the season against that protoss still makes me want to burn every copy of SC2 ever sold... I will return now to my BW corner.
On February 14 2014 20:19 dabom88 wrote: This is what happens when your stuff is free. Growth is possible. I've been watching Proleague all season long, and have had very little reason or desire to watch GSL. When the SC2 audience was shrinking, it astounds me that GSL chose to go back to their restrictive paywall.
well you're not exactly adding to their live viewer counts anyway with that sig of yours.
1. My sig is about the paywall, nothing to do with Live Viewership. 2. And ultimately, restrictive business practices like that shouldn't be rewarded with higher viewer counts anyway. I'll gladly encourage people in areas where GSL is on in the middle of the night with no restreams to not buy into such restrictive business practices. Instead, I'll encourage people to watch tournaments where you don't have to be up in the middle of the night to watch, and support them by watching with Adblock turned off. I've even made posts detailing how to add ESportsTV to Youtube Whitelists because that's how much I want to support GOOD, pro-consumer and pro-viewership growth business practices.
On February 14 2014 20:19 dabom88 wrote: This is what happens when your stuff is free. Growth is possible. I've been watching Proleague all season long, and have had very little reason or desire to watch GSL. When the SC2 audience was shrinking, it astounds me that GSL chose to go back to their restrictive paywall.
Most hilarious sig I think I've ever seen on this forum.
Truth in humor.
Don't want to get banned so I just say that I am glad that Proleague is now $5/month. Was a steal before.
On February 15 2014 09:23 Anomarad wrote: Tripling your online viewers isn't surprising. When they switched from regular TV to IPTV, it was a huge downgrade for publicity in the first place. As a result of the switch they lost a lot of viewers as SPOTV is a fairly unpopular broadcast channel compared to TV. Now that they've put more work into their SPOTV promotion and more people know that's where SC2 is they increased their viewership over time.
The problem is that this viewership is still worlds below what they had when they were on regular TV (ongamenet). They lost the masses.
Errr SPOTV is on regular TV, I can assure you, from someone who lives in Korea...
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