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d00p
711 Posts
Seen one Husky VOD so far and it made me want to try it. | ||
rift
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rift
1819 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:51 d00p wrote: I gotta tell you I don't like the name Starbow. Like, what's it supposed to mean? StarCraft bended like a bow? Or bowing before StarCraft and thus paying homage to the true StarCraft (BW)? It should be called StarCraft: Brood War 2 imo. Isn't that what it's trying to be? Or would that be a problem wiht Blizz? Seen one Husky VOD so far and it made me want to try it. SC2BW exists already http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316 | ||
Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:51 d00p wrote: I gotta tell you I don't like the name Starbow. Like, what's it supposed to mean? StarCraft bended like a bow? Or bowing before StarCraft and thus paying homage to the true StarCraft (BW)? It should be called StarCraft: Brood War 2 imo. Isn't that what it's trying to be? Or would that be a problem wiht Blizz? Seen one Husky VOD so far and it made me want to try it. Yeah I wouldn't mind a more suitable name at some point, Starbow is just incredibly random and I first thought it was just some arcade game. | ||
fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3994 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:05 tshi wrote: I hope pro-players/popular ones start to stream themselves playing this -- i would argue that even though it's not helpful for them in the short-term, it might be helpful in the long run if it draws attention and blizzard does something (but im not optimistic =/) Don't know about you guys but if there would be a pro tournament in StarBow i would actually watch the entire thing, and possibly wouldn't mind paying. At this moment i don't claim it to be a perfect game, but it is amazingly fun to watch - so much action + so many possibilities for creativity and excellence ... | ||
purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:54 rift wrote: SC2BW exists already http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316 SCBW2 vs SC2BW ![]() | ||
CutTheEnemy
Canada373 Posts
Don't know about you guys but if there would be a pro tournament in StarBow i would actually watch the entire thing, and possibly wouldn't mind paying. To support the mod, I'd pay to see a pro tournament. Actually. | ||
Diddywhop
United States42 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:58 CutTheEnemy wrote: To support the mod, I'd pay to see a pro tournament. Actually. I wouldn't mind putting some money out there as well. | ||
rift
1819 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:58 CutTheEnemy wrote: To support the mod, I'd pay to see a pro tournament. Actually. I would pay 20 bucks to see a tournament loaded with korean progamers | ||
d00p
711 Posts
Exactly. SCBW2. And no one plays SC2BW. | ||
-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:47 Rad wrote: I think it has to do with any RTS that comes out that pulls people away from sc2. If that RTS is more fun, more interesting to watch, more appealing to sc2 fans, it'll hurt sc2. If that game can't support the pro scene as well as sc2 can, it'll hurt that as well. Less people will want to watch sc2, so the scene will diminish. If the new RTS can't support the pro scene with a ranked ladder and matchmaking, it's harder for pros to switch. It won't have a company like blizz running a tourney like WCS. It probably won't have big tourneys like Dreamhack, or if it did, would sc2 still be there? Probably not. Anyway, the death of sc2 (or anything that removes interest from existing fans) isn't good for sc2 and isn't good for starbow. Ideally starbow will gain in popularity just enough to force blizz make some drastic changes to sc2. Some small tournies, some pros investing time to help balance, people having fun and being able to point to the drastic changes they like. That's best case scenario here. I don't think a full switch from sc2 to starbow would be good for the scene even if it proves to be the superior game. Love this mod though. So good. Funding will come to games that deserve it. Just because some big named company is backing a tourney doesn't mean the game is any good. Just look at League. Either way I think this mod is worlds above SC2 in its current state. | ||
purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On January 14 2014 05:01 rift wrote: I would pay 20 bucks to see a tournament loaded with korean progamers Ditto. Also, if things go well with my business, I want to sponsor reoccuring small scale tournaments. Hopefully Starbow-things don't die down by then ;; On January 14 2014 05:03 -stOpSKY- wrote: Funding will come to games that deserve it. Just because some big named company is backing a tourney doesn't mean the game is any good. Just look at League. Either way I think this mod is worlds above SC2 in its current state. Sigh, this LoL hate... I quit playing a while ago, but LoL is a good game. SC2 people just hate it because it seems "mechanically easy". Alright, I'll stop talking about LoL. | ||
Beef Noodles
United States937 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:47 Rad wrote: I think it has to do with any RTS that comes out that pulls people away from sc2. If that RTS is more fun, more interesting to watch, more appealing to sc2 fans, it'll hurt sc2. If that game can't support the pro scene as well as sc2 can, it'll hurt that as well. Less people will want to watch sc2, so the scene will diminish. If the new RTS can't support the pro scene with a ranked ladder and matchmaking, it's harder for pros to switch. It won't have a company like blizz running a tourney like WCS. It probably won't have big tourneys like Dreamhack, or if it did, would sc2 still be there? Probably not. Anyway, the death of sc2 (or anything that removes interest from existing fans) isn't good for sc2 and isn't good for starbow. Ideally starbow will gain in popularity just enough to force blizz make some drastic changes to sc2. Some small tournies, some pros investing time to help balance, people having fun and being able to point to the drastic changes they like. That's best case scenario here. I don't think a full switch from sc2 to starbow would be good for the scene even if it proves to be the superior game. Love this mod though. So good. I disagree only because currently SC2 is bad for SC2. Many players and fans are leaving because they don't enjoy the game. I don't think minor changes from Blizzard are going to help that. The best thing that can happen is some great RTS comes around and a scene grows around that instead (just my opinion though). | ||
rename
Estonia329 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:47 Rad wrote: I think it has to do with any RTS that comes out that pulls people away from sc2. If that RTS is more fun, more interesting to watch, more appealing to sc2 fans, it'll hurt sc2. If that game can't support the pro scene as well as sc2 can, it'll hurt that as well. Less people will want to watch sc2, so the scene will diminish. If the new RTS can't support the pro scene with a ranked ladder and matchmaking, it's harder for pros to switch. It won't have a company like blizz running a tourney like WCS. It probably won't have big tourneys like Dreamhack, or if it did, would sc2 still be there? Probably not. Anyway, the death of sc2 (or anything that removes interest from existing fans) isn't good for sc2 and isn't good for starbow. Ideally starbow will gain in popularity just enough to force blizz make some drastic changes to sc2. Some small tournies, some pros investing time to help balance, people having fun and being able to point to the drastic changes they like. That's best case scenario here. I don't think a full switch from sc2 to starbow would be good for the scene even if it proves to be the superior game. Love this mod though. So good. Another scenario of this mod ( and/or perhaps some other similar mods ) to become huge enough with the upcoming F2P, that it becomes viable to monetize it somehow, providing bnet supported automated tournaments, ranked matchmaking and perhaps some other extra goodies for small fee's ( hopefully free for owners of WoL/HotS ). The map marketplace will happen for sure, if despite the arcade interface, the mod scene somehow manages to become huge enough for it to be worth spending few thousand developer hours on that. | ||
purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On January 14 2014 05:08 Beef Noodles wrote: I disagree only because currently SC2 is bad for SC2. Many players and fans are leaving because they don't enjoy the game. I don't think minor changes from Blizzard are going to help that. The best thing that can happen is some great RTS comes around and a scene grows around that instead (just my opinion though). Yeah, these past few years, SC2 has just been living off of the "Starcraft" name, Blizzard money, and hope that it will be a better game upon the next expansion. A game truly realises its worth when if it can survive without those dependencies. | ||
tshi
United States2495 Posts
On January 14 2014 04:55 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: Don't know about you guys but if there would be a pro tournament in StarBow i would actually watch the entire thing, and possibly wouldn't mind paying. At this moment i don't claim it to be a perfect game, but it is amazingly fun to watch - so much action + so many possibilities for creativity and excellence ... Yeah me too ><. I'd pay $5 for a pot or some kind of incentive easily. Seeing how 'high the skill ceiling is' when the micro potential is as it is in this mod makes it really intriguing to see pros play it! This is probably not a good week for David Kim. | ||
purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On January 14 2014 05:15 tshi wrote: This is probably not a good week for David Kim. Or maybe it is. He purposefully made SC2 the way it is and has been waiting all this time for some community members to do his work for him and actually create a real sequel to SCBW. ![]() And by him, I just mean Blizzard. Genius! | ||
Rad
United States935 Posts
On January 14 2014 05:08 Beef Noodles wrote: I disagree only because currently SC2 is bad for SC2. Many players and fans are leaving because they don't enjoy the game. I don't think minor changes from Blizzard are going to help that. The best thing that can happen is some great RTS comes around and a scene grows around that instead (just my opinion though). But can starbow (as an sc2 mod) support the current scene? I don't really think so. Not without an easy to use matchmaking system and ladder, or a ton of money thrown into a bunch of tournaments. Sure it could grass roots its way into popularity but if it takes down sc2 before it can support the pro scene, that's not good. Don't get me wrong, I think this mod is great and want to see it grow a competitive scene, but killing sc2 in the process (or before it can handle the scene) is bad. On January 14 2014 05:10 rename wrote: Another scenario of this mod ( and/or perhaps some other similar mods ) to become huge enough with the upcoming F2P, that it becomes viable to monetize it somehow, providing bnet supported automated tournaments, ranked matchmaking and perhaps some other extra goodies for small fee's ( hopefully free for owners of WoL/HotS ). The map marketplace will happen for sure, if despite the arcade interface, the mod scene somehow manages to become huge enough for it to be worth spending few thousand developer hours on that. Yeah, this scenario sounds great. Will it happen anytime soon though? Starbow's already knocking at the door... | ||
GinDo
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On January 14 2014 05:26 GinDo wrote: Sick mod. Needs a new name. Starcraft2: Legacy of the Brood Heart Wings of Liberty Void Swarm War. SC2: Legacy of the Swarm Wings SC2: Heart of the Void of Liberty | ||
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