Starbow - Page 211

On February 21 2014 07:13 rebuffering wrote:
Hey guys, streams up! Gunna have some fun! http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg

On February 21 2014 07:16 murphs wrote:
I think the chat room should be the center piece of the application and all the other features should be placed in the space around it, somewhat similar to the Brood War layout. People are automatically placed into a General chat upon launching the client.

On February 21 2014 07:36 Daumen wrote:


Would be nice if you could mention your race / Points when you link your stream. :>



YES PLEASE

Make a "Starbow" Chat and have everyone join it at startup, that would be so great.

On February 21 2014 08:31 WarpTV wrote:
Lurkers

Is it just me or are lurkers so much worse vs Bio in starbow?
In BW 2 Lurkers could hold a ramp for Bio and kill ever lost bio unit that charged up. But in Starbow Bio just stim and charges right up with few losses.

Firebats.
I think Firebats with twice as much HP than in Brood War for only 25 more minerals is to blame for some of it. They can bate out the first voly form the lurkers and it barley scratches them tank soo much of the damage.

Lair build times,
Starbow Lairs come out 30sec slower than BW. This was justified b/c queens can speed it up. The reality is in order to get lair on time you have to cut 3 drones now.

And last overcharge on reactored Rax's lets stim timings come soo early that 3 hatch lurker just gets rolled.

With all of the above I think zerg must go mass Ling bane.

On February 21 2014 09:03 KingGorlak wrote:
It has to do with the unit pathing being much better in starcraft 2 so much more units are able to get up the ramp and kill the lurkers. in bw your rines would march to there death like 2 at a time on ramps.

On February 21 2014 09:45 WarpTV wrote:


and the fact that stie timings can bust zergs wall too soon.

Lair need to be faster.
and Lurkers need a wider splash range. you can micro against lurkers with out even meaning too.

Oh and I have not even started on mraders.

On February 21 2014 10:37 Dragonei wrote:


If you wanna your lair faster chrono it. If you change the constuction time of the lair to make it faster you will make 2 base muta with chronos so Op.
There are new mechaniks for Zerg and we need to get used to them. Zerg i think right now is the hardest race because of the decision making of the queens new abilities.

Srry for my newbie English.

On February 21 2014 08:34 iHirO wrote:


There's gonna be a list of public chatrooms that you can select from to join, or the ability to create create passworded private chatrooms. The developers are concentrating on getting the matchmaking service bug free before adding new features.

On February 21 2014 10:37 Dragonei wrote:


If you wanna your lair faster chrono it. If you change the constuction time of the lair to make it faster you will make 2 base muta with chronos so Op.
There are new mechaniks for Zerg and we need to get used to them. Zerg i think right now is the hardest race because of the decision making of the queens new abilities.

Srry for my newbie English.

On February 21 2014 11:23 WarpTV wrote:



Lair Build times was extended by 30 seconds. And any Zerg with half a brain already "chronos" it. What the "crono" really did is make 3 hatch muta spend 150 minerals extra to get a lair on time.

So, if we already are "chronosing" the lair, what is the point of telling us too?

The Ladder is just no fun when all you can do ZvT is mass ling baneling vs bio

On February 21 2014 11:23 WarpTV wrote:



Lair Build times was extended by 30 seconds. And any Zerg with half a brain already "chronos" it. What the "crono" really did is make 3 hatch muta spend 150 minerals extra to get a lair on time.

So, if we already are "chronosing" the lair, what is the point of telling us too?

The Ladder is just no fun when all you can do ZvT is mass ling baneling vs bio

On February 21 2014 12:08 Espers wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UEoD08xaM&feature=youtu.be

3 Lurkers vs 2 Firebats, 12 Marines, 2 Medics. Stim and range researched. No micro besides sending the Firebats up first.

Lurkers are too weak.

On February 21 2014 12:17 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:


A little stop micro/targeting and those marines get eaten alive. Maybe they are too weak, but lets give it some time first. We don't want another SC2 on our hands tt

On February 21 2014 12:32 Espers wrote:


And a little micro from Terran and you can pull this off without losing a single Marine. Not sure about "giving it some time", Lurkers aren't magically going to become more effective overnight. They've mentioned they're going to make some changes to the Baneling, but with that then I really think they should take at look a the Lurker too. It just doesn't do its job very well.