EPTAs far as I know other do but Tanks don't.
that would explain it, i guess that is not intended
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
As far as I know other do but Tanks don't. that would explain it, i guess that is not intended | ||
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Fearest
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Kruxxen
United States149 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On January 30 2014 05:52 Fearest wrote: Quite honestly I believed the hype and checked this out. HUGE MISTAKE. All I found was hostility when I asked noob questions about this mod. Told me to go back to LoL (?? where did that came from?). I imagine many others may experience something similar when they want to see what the mod is about. Needless to say, I won't be back. That's sad, I've had friendly experiences so far. Hopefully that's not a widespread thing. | ||
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actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
On January 30 2014 05:52 Fearest wrote: Quite honestly I believed the hype and checked this out. HUGE MISTAKE. All I found was hostility when I asked noob questions about this mod. Told me to go back to LoL (?? where did that came from?). I imagine many others may experience something similar when they want to see what the mod is about. Needless to say, I won't be back. Same could be said about any online community. Including sc2/lol/dota. Dont let one troll in a small community deter you when the millions of trolls in the other communities don't push you away. -_-; | ||
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coZy
United States65 Posts
On January 30 2014 05:52 Fearest wrote: Quite honestly I believed the hype and checked this out. HUGE MISTAKE. All I found was hostility when I asked noob questions about this mod. Told me to go back to LoL (?? where did that came from?). I imagine many others may experience something similar when they want to see what the mod is about. Needless to say, I won't be back. I honestly don't know who said that to you, but every single person I have talked to in the starbow community is really really nice. Add me on battle.net and I can explain some things to you if you want. That goes for any noob too. I'm not good by any means, but I can explain some differences to SC2 that the game has. coZy.209 | ||
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GoShox
United States1847 Posts
On January 30 2014 05:52 Fearest wrote: Quite honestly I believed the hype and checked this out. HUGE MISTAKE. All I found was hostility when I asked noob questions about this mod. Told me to go back to LoL (?? where did that came from?). I imagine many others may experience something similar when they want to see what the mod is about. Needless to say, I won't be back. I'm sorry to hear that. There are some bad apples on the mod unfortunately, I don't know how many games I've won where people have complained about Protoss or balance in some form, said it's the worst they've ever played, etc. That said, if you play SC2 and enjoy it, a game where I've been told to kill myself, get cancer, etc. (all while being a completely standard player), then I think you can toughen up. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On January 30 2014 05:52 Fearest wrote: Quite honestly I believed the hype and checked this out. HUGE MISTAKE. All I found was hostility when I asked noob questions about this mod. Told me to go back to LoL (?? where did that came from?). I imagine many others may experience something similar when they want to see what the mod is about. Needless to say, I won't be back. this is golden | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
That said, the Starbow community is quite friendly, but as long as the game is good, that's what should matter imo. | ||
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RESOqub
51 Posts
Still, maybe we can shove a few decent design ideas in Blizzard's direction before this dies a death. | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
On January 30 2014 06:37 RESOqub wrote: The Starbow community is about average (nowhere near as nice as some mods) but the game was greatly underplayed last time I logged into the chat channels. I am sort of hoping that has changed, but seeing as I logged in at the peak of the hype at 5PM GMT and found no more than 10 people playing it (most were on SC2 ladder)... meh. Still, maybe we can shove a few decent design ideas in Blizzard's direction before this dies a death. EU was down today so I think you came as it was filling up again. There's 50 there now. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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RESOqub
51 Posts
On January 30 2014 06:39 Xiphias wrote: EU was down today so I think you came as it was filling up again. There's 50 there now. Ah cool. Well at least there are people to play with. I much prefer Starbow's early game to SC2's early game because I love tanks  | ||
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
I think Kabel is about to do something pretty interesting with them: Increase their probability that Scourges will overkillI. Right now, while they do overkill, they are still somewhat intelligent, so if you tell 10 scourges to a-move vs 5 Corsairs, and you try to micro away one of the Corsairs, then only around 4 of the Scourges will continue following the (one) Corsair and eventually overkill it if it if they catch up to the Corsair. However, by further dumbing down the AI of Scourges, then all 10 of them will continue to follow the Corsair and overkill it if a-moved. Or alternatively, the protoss player can micro the Corsair around in circles while the other Corsairs will kill the Scourges. That should make micro possible for both sides as the zerg player will have to micro each individual Scourge rather than tell all of them to a-move. Thoughts on that? | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 30 2014 04:54 Morbidius wrote: Its extremely fun and the better player always wins the micro war. Only if you go for the same build tho.  Yep. I think most people who say ZvZ is boring or w/e are ones that don't have much experience playing it. It obviously isn't a diverse MU, but lots is going on underneath the surface; and there is still tons of decision making that goes on in any given game. Even so called build order disadvantages aren't necessarily that bad (well 12h v 9 pool speed is pretty damn challenging) and even the player that is at a "disadvantage" has things going for him. Good example would be say overpool v 12 hatch. At first glance it seems like the 12h player is at a significant advantage, but there are opportunities for the player with overpool to capitalize on such as having faster muta, or faster access to superior ling mobility from speed. There are exceptions, but most good ZvZers don't think of the MU as boring and nor do they think of it as "build order coin toss". | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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AdelSC123
France362 Posts
On January 30 2014 06:55 Hider wrote: @ Scourges I think Kabel is about to do something pretty interesting with them: Increase their probability to overkill / dumb-down the AI. Right now, while they do overkill, they are still somewhat intelligent, so if you tell 10 scourges to a-move vs 5 Corsairs, and you try to micro away one of the Corsairs, then only around 4 of the Scourges will continue following the Corsair and eventually overkill it if it if they catch up to the Corsair. However, by further dumbing down the AI of Scourges, then all 10 of them will continue to follow the Corsair and overkill it if a-moved. Or alternatively, the protoss player can micro the Corsair around in circles while the other Corsairs will kill the Scourges. That should make micro possible for both sides as the zerg player will have to micro each individual Scourge rather than tell all of them to a-move. Thoughts on that? I like it. | ||
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Zhadez10
Iceland39 Posts
On January 30 2014 06:55 Hider wrote: @ Scourges I think Kabel is about to do something pretty interesting with them: Increase their probability to overkill / dumb-down the AI. Right now, while they do overkill, they are still somewhat intelligent, so if you tell 10 scourges to a-move vs 5 Corsairs, and you try to micro away one of the Corsairs, then only around 4 of the Scourges will continue following the Corsair and eventually overkill it if it if they catch up to the Corsair. However, by further dumbing down the AI of Scourges, then all 10 of them will continue to follow the Corsair and overkill it if a-moved. Or alternatively, the protoss player can micro the Corsair around in circles while the other Corsairs will kill the Scourges. That should make micro possible for both sides as the zerg player will have to micro each individual Scourge rather than tell all of them to a-move. Thoughts on that? Personally I dont really like changes that are in the direction of making the AI dumber. In your example I find it very reasonable that 4 of them follow the corsair (so is it always double the required scourges that follow? or perhaps scourges needed+2? or was that just a random number perhaps?). Anyhow if scourges are proving to be too strong I'd rather want the splash damage reduced as an example. Or perhaps health reduced. Personally I think it's really cool that scourges have splash damage in Starbow. | ||
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