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wow the wording of the post made me think Hyun owed Quantic money for a second there.
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Oh you two arguing about how to classify a team. In the end though throughout all your back and forth it really doesn't matter how you classify it because nobody gives a shit. Korean or foreign it is still just a team. Only becomes an issue when the Olympics adopt SC2 as a competitive sport. Then it would be Korean and then S.Kor would be guaranteed 1 gold medal per Olympics.
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On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but. Axiom is not a foreign team Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid... This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be.
oh shit we better not calling a timing attack a timing attack then, they're meaningless in the eyes of TB.
I'm not demanding or telling your team to be anything, im telling you what the majority of people who follow our game think of your team as, you can either fight it or accept, the reality is people relate Axiom with Foreign teams because of YOU.
stop over reading what im saying and acting like everyone who disagrees with you is obviously "cancerous" and a "troll"
Starcraft 2, especially in Korea is built upon the foundation of BW that is where we get majority of our definitions, whether you like Sc1 or Sc2 is irrelevant.
But im am glad you think im cancerous that's a wonderful thing to say to another human being who disagrees with you. even on the internet...
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Dudes, is that how you want to start the New Year? If you can't help HyuN, then use PM or something for such fights. At the moment, both of you embarrass the entities you represent, so leave that discussion as it is. Just my 2 cents.
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On January 02 2014 08:19 ZodaSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but. Axiom is not a foreign team Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid... This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be. oh shit we better not calling a timing attack a timing attack then, they're meaningless in the eyes of TB. I'm not demanding or telling your team to be anything, im telling you what the majority of people who follow our game think of your team as, you can either fight it or accept, the reality is people relate Axiom with Foreign teams because of YOU. stop over reading what im saying and acting like everyone who disagrees with you is obviously "cancerous" and a "troll" Starcraft 2, especially in Korea is built upon the foundation of BW that is where we get majority of our definitions, whether you like Sc1 or Sc2 is irrelevant. But im am glad you think im cancerous that's a wonderful thing to say to another human being who disagrees with you. even on the internet...
Gee maybe if you didn't want to be insulted you probably shouldn't have started posting insults. Your expertise on this forum apparently doesn't extend to that. You're cancerous and a troll because that's how you acted. How short is your memory?
But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that..
Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy
random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game...
run along manchild.
So the moral of the story is, if you want to be treated with respect, don't act like a haughty little shit for no reason. Mindblowing right?
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we, as an industry, are never going to get anywhere until this sort of shit is stamped out.
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Australia1191 Posts
On January 02 2014 08:23 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:19 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but. Axiom is not a foreign team Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid... This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be. oh shit we better not calling a timing attack a timing attack then, they're meaningless in the eyes of TB. I'm not demanding or telling your team to be anything, im telling you what the majority of people who follow our game think of your team as, you can either fight it or accept, the reality is people relate Axiom with Foreign teams because of YOU. stop over reading what im saying and acting like everyone who disagrees with you is obviously "cancerous" and a "troll" Starcraft 2, especially in Korea is built upon the foundation of BW that is where we get majority of our definitions, whether you like Sc1 or Sc2 is irrelevant. But im am glad you think im cancerous that's a wonderful thing to say to another human being who disagrees with you. even on the internet... Gee maybe if you didn't want to be insulted you probably shouldn't have started posting insults. Your expertise on this forum apparently doesn't extend to that. You're cancerous and a troll because that's how you acted. How short is your memory? Show nested quote +But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that.. Show nested quote + random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... So the moral of the story is, if you want to be treated with respect, don't act like a haughty little shit for no reason. Mindblowing right?
I'm sorry i didn't know playing upon your own name was an insult, and im not insulting you in any other comment except maybe manchild, but that's a jab at your attitude which you know you have when you argue, but i would never compare that to being cancerous, you're attitude is annoying for sure, but according you i'm a mutative growth that causes pain and disease and eventually kills? ok
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On January 02 2014 08:23 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:19 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but. Axiom is not a foreign team Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid... This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be. oh shit we better not calling a timing attack a timing attack then, they're meaningless in the eyes of TB. I'm not demanding or telling your team to be anything, im telling you what the majority of people who follow our game think of your team as, you can either fight it or accept, the reality is people relate Axiom with Foreign teams because of YOU. stop over reading what im saying and acting like everyone who disagrees with you is obviously "cancerous" and a "troll" Starcraft 2, especially in Korea is built upon the foundation of BW that is where we get majority of our definitions, whether you like Sc1 or Sc2 is irrelevant. But im am glad you think im cancerous that's a wonderful thing to say to another human being who disagrees with you. even on the internet... Gee maybe if you didn't want to be insulted you probably shouldn't have started posting insults. Your expertise on this forum apparently doesn't extend to that. You're cancerous and a troll because that's how you acted. How short is your memory? Show nested quote +But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that.. Show nested quote + random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... So the moral of the story is, if you want to be treated with respect, don't act like a haughty little shit for no reason. Mindblowing right?
Please choose a different thread to do this.
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On January 02 2014 08:26 ZodaSoda wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:23 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:19 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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Axiom is not a foreign team Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid... This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be. oh shit we better not calling a timing attack a timing attack then, they're meaningless in the eyes of TB. I'm not demanding or telling your team to be anything, im telling you what the majority of people who follow our game think of your team as, you can either fight it or accept, the reality is people relate Axiom with Foreign teams because of YOU. stop over reading what im saying and acting like everyone who disagrees with you is obviously "cancerous" and a "troll" Starcraft 2, especially in Korea is built upon the foundation of BW that is where we get majority of our definitions, whether you like Sc1 or Sc2 is irrelevant. But im am glad you think im cancerous that's a wonderful thing to say to another human being who disagrees with you. even on the internet... Gee maybe if you didn't want to be insulted you probably shouldn't have started posting insults. Your expertise on this forum apparently doesn't extend to that. You're cancerous and a troll because that's how you acted. How short is your memory? But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that.. Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... run along manchild. So the moral of the story is, if you want to be treated with respect, don't act like a haughty little shit for no reason. Mindblowing right? I'm sorry i didn't know playing upon your own name was an insult, and im not insulting you in any other comment except maybe manchild, but that's a jab at your attitude which you know you have when you argue, but i would never compare that to being cancerous, you're attitude is annoying for sure, but according you i'm a mutative growth that causes pain and disease and eventually kills? ok
Little English lesson for you. Words mean different things.
" 2. A pernicious, spreading evil: A cancer of bigotry spread through the community. "
That cancerous attitude I'm talking about is from people that attack players, team owners, tournament organisers, casters etc for no good reason and in doing so actively make this scene just a little bit worse. And make no mistake that attitude is a cancer and over the last few years it has absolutely done damage. Let's answer your next question before you post it "so does that mean you're immune to criticism just because you own a team?", no of course not, but maybe my opinion on what my team is matters a bit more than yours and probably doesn't deserve the sneering ire of someone like you. Oh, you didn't know it was an insult? Bullshit. You've done nothing but sneer and make disdainful remarks, so whatever dumb grudge it is you're holding, maybe you should keep it out of this thread. I've had to deal with the elitism of people like you since 2010 and I'm getting just a bit tired of it.
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Australia1191 Posts
On January 02 2014 08:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:26 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:23 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:19 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
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Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...
This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be. oh shit we better not calling a timing attack a timing attack then, they're meaningless in the eyes of TB. I'm not demanding or telling your team to be anything, im telling you what the majority of people who follow our game think of your team as, you can either fight it or accept, the reality is people relate Axiom with Foreign teams because of YOU. stop over reading what im saying and acting like everyone who disagrees with you is obviously "cancerous" and a "troll" Starcraft 2, especially in Korea is built upon the foundation of BW that is where we get majority of our definitions, whether you like Sc1 or Sc2 is irrelevant. But im am glad you think im cancerous that's a wonderful thing to say to another human being who disagrees with you. even on the internet... Gee maybe if you didn't want to be insulted you probably shouldn't have started posting insults. Your expertise on this forum apparently doesn't extend to that. You're cancerous and a troll because that's how you acted. How short is your memory? But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that.. Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... run along manchild. So the moral of the story is, if you want to be treated with respect, don't act like a haughty little shit for no reason. Mindblowing right? I'm sorry i didn't know playing upon your own name was an insult, and im not insulting you in any other comment except maybe manchild, but that's a jab at your attitude which you know you have when you argue, but i would never compare that to being cancerous, you're attitude is annoying for sure, but according you i'm a mutative growth that causes pain and disease and eventually kills? ok Little English lesson for you. Words mean different things. " 2. A pernicious, spreading evil: A cancer of bigotry spread through the community. " That cancerous attitude I'm talking about is from people that attack players, team owners, tournament organisers, casters etc for no good reason and in doing so actively make this scene just a little bit worse. And make no mistake that attitude is a cancer and over the last few years it has absolutely done damage. Let's answer your next question before you post it "so does that mean you're immune to criticism just because you own a team?", no of course not, but maybe my opinion on what my team is matters a bit more than yours and probably doesn't deserve the sneering ire of someone like you. Oh, you didn't know it was an insult? Bullshit. You've done nothing but sneer and make disdainful remarks, so whatever dumb grudge it is you're holding, maybe you should keep it out of this thread.
I hold no grudge, i just want you to know people still think of Axiom as Foreign regardless of what you or your team think, and as i said you don't have to accept it, but flying into threads to comment about it, is what mainly bothers me, why do you care so much if your team is called Foreign or Korean anyway...
Sigh, people are right, i should really stop discussing this with you here... or ever...
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On January 02 2014 08:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:26 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:23 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:19 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:
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Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid...
This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be. oh shit we better not calling a timing attack a timing attack then, they're meaningless in the eyes of TB. I'm not demanding or telling your team to be anything, im telling you what the majority of people who follow our game think of your team as, you can either fight it or accept, the reality is people relate Axiom with Foreign teams because of YOU. stop over reading what im saying and acting like everyone who disagrees with you is obviously "cancerous" and a "troll" Starcraft 2, especially in Korea is built upon the foundation of BW that is where we get majority of our definitions, whether you like Sc1 or Sc2 is irrelevant. But im am glad you think im cancerous that's a wonderful thing to say to another human being who disagrees with you. even on the internet... Gee maybe if you didn't want to be insulted you probably shouldn't have started posting insults. Your expertise on this forum apparently doesn't extend to that. You're cancerous and a troll because that's how you acted. How short is your memory? But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that.. Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... run along manchild. So the moral of the story is, if you want to be treated with respect, don't act like a haughty little shit for no reason. Mindblowing right? I'm sorry i didn't know playing upon your own name was an insult, and im not insulting you in any other comment except maybe manchild, but that's a jab at your attitude which you know you have when you argue, but i would never compare that to being cancerous, you're attitude is annoying for sure, but according you i'm a mutative growth that causes pain and disease and eventually kills? ok Little English lesson for you. Words mean different things. " 2. A pernicious, spreading evil: A cancer of bigotry spread through the community. " That cancerous attitude I'm talking about is from people that attack players, team owners, tournament organisers, casters etc for no good reason and in doing so actively make this scene just a little bit worse. And make no mistake that attitude is a cancer and over the last few years it has absolutely done damage. Let's answer your next question before you post it "so does that mean you're immune to criticism just because you own a team?", no of course not, but maybe my opinion on what my team is matters a bit more than yours and probably doesn't deserve the sneering ire of someone like you. Oh, you didn't know it was an insult? Bullshit. You've done nothing but sneer and make disdainful remarks, so whatever dumb grudge it is you're holding, maybe you should keep it out of this thread. I've had to deal with the elitism of people like you since 2010 and I'm getting just a bit tired of it.
could you pm the shit out of each other instead of doin' it right here?
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If i had report immunity like this Soda guy i'd abuse it too. God what a load of crap.
Never considered Axiom anything but Korean. Ownership is merely that. They've always bean a Korean team in intent, and in practise. Not sure why people think otherwise. Is there a poll to back up the ignorance of the supposed majority thinking they're foreign? Foreign owned is the best you could say if you want to distinguish them.
on topic, suck to be Hyun. That paying to teams thing always annoyed me, but it's more a matter of me not trusting anyone. Sure you could trust a Liquid or EG or Axiom, i'd hope. When Quantic was formed i'm pretty sure i remember them getting shit on from the get go as far as reliability was concerned. It just feels like this was always going to happen. Being Korean Hyun is even more vulnerable and i doubt this guy is as eager to steal from a foreigner, who in theory would be more capable of doing something about it.
I just wish we could have stopped this somehow, like, there's no structure in place whatsoever. Is there even a support network or someone to cry to earlier? This should've been dealt with a long time ago, Stockholm was in like April right? Bah!
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On January 02 2014 08:36 ZodaSoda wrote:
I hold no grudge, i just want you to know people still think of Axiom as Foreign regardless of what you or your team think, and as i said you don't have to accept it, but flying into threads to comment about it, is what mainly bothers me, why do you care so much if your team is called Foreign or Korean anyway...
And by people you mean "you". Why wouldn't I comment on it? It's my job to make sure misinformation about the team isn't taken as common lore. I care because the brand actually matters and it's my job to steer it in the right direction.
Sigh, people are right, i should really stop discussing this with you here... or ever...
Well there's something we can both agree on.
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On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but. Axiom is not a foreign team Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid... This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be.
Stop bickering you two this is about making sure Hyun gets what he deserves! Having an argument over stupid stuff isn't helpful. >.>
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TotalBiscuit and ZodaSoda can you please argue about the definition of a Korean team somewhere else? Seriously why is everybody discussing TB comments all the time... and why are you TB always adding fuel to this ...
back to topic please.
(no offense to anyone but this is really the wrong topic to spam this kindergarten trash...)
[please don't respond to this and just talk elsewhere]
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On January 02 2014 08:43 Finalmastery wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but. Axiom is not a foreign team Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid... This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be. Stop bickering you two this is about making sure Hyun gets what he deserves! Having an argument over stupid stuff isn't helpful. >.>
This thread is about informing people what happened to Hyun not getting Hyun his money-. And the thread is also for a debate over nothing for the past page or so.
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On January 02 2014 08:48 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 08:43 Finalmastery wrote:On January 02 2014 08:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:09 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 08:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 02 2014 08:00 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 02 2014 03:18 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 17:57 ZodaSoda wrote:On January 01 2014 16:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 01 2014 12:21 Undead1993 wrote:
ye you could feel in the last couple of tournaments that he was stressed out, poor guy. kind of sad how some foreign teams treat the clueless koreans, axiom obviously doesn't but. Axiom is not a foreign team Foreign owned, Foreign ran, Foreign paid... This is the reason I come to Teamliquid, to have random forum posters inform me of what my team is and isn't. Right, random forum poster who has been following and organizing the way teams are recognized in Starcraft longer than you've been interested in the game... Take your attitude somewhere else on this one Biscuitboy Why is it so important to you people call Axiom a "Korean" team anyway? its not going to happen if you keep calling it your team and you keep telling us that you pay them and that you organize their flights, and without GSTL now, Axiom not in Proleague, you're as far as you can get from being a proper "Korean" team in the meaning of the phrase coming from the BW days... at best you're a International team who happens to only sign Koreans, if TL dropped all their players except for Taeja and HerO would that make Liquid a Korean team? no... But of course i get ahead of my self here, I'm talking to you of all people and whats in your mind is right! can't argue with that... It's cute that the Broodwar Elitists are still around and still as snippy as ever. I'm a Starcraft 2 Elitist if anything lol, run along manchild. Take your cancerous attitude elsewhere. Your Brood War definitions are meaningless in SC2 and it's hilarious that you think you can tell a team what they are and are not considered to be. Stop bickering you two this is about making sure Hyun gets what he deserves! Having an argument over stupid stuff isn't helpful. >.> This thread is about informing people what happened to Hyun not getting Hyun his money because let's be honest it is complexity. And the thread is also for a debate over nothing for the past page or so.
Yeah I guess this is true. What I really want to see is accountability for teams this year. Hopefully this coming to light at the beginning of the year will lead to change. I also know this probably won't happen but I would love to see a lawsuit actually go through against Simon, he's done this a few times already and maybe if some legal action happens stuff will shape up. >.>
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Both of you two should really know better after all you've done for the community. -_-'
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This poll is meant to inform TB on how his team is viewed:
Poll: Do you consider Axiom a Korean team?Yes (166) 43% No (181) 46% Sort of (43) 11% 390 total votes Your vote: Do you consider Axiom a Korean team? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): Sort of
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