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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 01 2014 18:35 GMT
#401
Simon Boudreault ‏@QuanticSamBuca

Hopes got crushed. Broken Dreams & what ever.


This is just pathetic. It's like he's a moron at a blackjack table gambling away hyun's money and feeling sorry for himself when he went off and lost it all. Because that's exactly what it is.

We need more Xeris's in the world and less dumb asses leading teams.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
January 01 2014 18:45 GMT
#402
Please inform us when this ass has been appropriately punished and HyuN has received his money
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 01 2014 18:51 GMT
#403
On January 02 2014 03:35 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
Simon Boudreault ‏@QuanticSamBuca

Hopes got crushed. Broken Dreams & what ever.


This is just pathetic. It's like he's a moron at a blackjack table gambling away hyun's money and feeling sorry for himself when he went off and lost it all. Because that's exactly what it is.

We need more Xeris's in the world and less dumb asses leading teams.


Hopefully you noticed that the tweet you just linked is from more than 3 weeks ago
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castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada777 Posts
January 01 2014 18:51 GMT
#404
simon sounds like a young kid using daddys money to run a pro gaming team with no prior business or managmentskills, this was a reciepe for disaster. if hyun takes it to court with all the evidence he has im sure he'll be reimbursed
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 18:54:42
January 01 2014 18:53 GMT
#405
On January 02 2014 02:42 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 02:40 sd_andeh wrote:
What the HELL? Aren't there laws to protect people like this? This has to be some kind of a lawbreak. I just can't believe.... I hope it turns out good for Hyun, he's such a nice guy. If anyone can, please please help him T_T


There aren't laws because "esports" is a new field of entertainment. It's not as organized as professional sports. Most contracts are flimsy.

That's why Violet had to get an "Athlete's visa" and people made a big deal about it. They thought it was implying that Esports were a real sport, but really, it was just the fact that there is no such thing as a progamer's visa (as of right now).


eSports is subject to the same laws as any other sports/business/whatever.

laws don't need to be made for every possible matter of fact. They rather need to be general enough that they can be applied to many situations. Otherwise the law would not be flexible enough to keep up with the ever-changing society.
That is also why violet got an athletes' visa. Existing law applied to a new situation. No need to pass an Pro-Gamer Visa Act or anything along those lines.
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1318 Posts
January 01 2014 18:54 GMT
#406
Evil motherfucker
nope
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
January 01 2014 18:55 GMT
#407
any Lawyer SC2 players here on TL that can help out Hyun for free with legal consulation?
IAMPRO
Profile Joined November 2011
Afghanistan118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 18:56:43
January 01 2014 18:56 GMT
#408
Anyone got this guy's address? I know a few people who are very, very persuasive and might be able to pay him a visit (depending on location). PM me if you have his address.
SuHoSin - we'll never forget your genius
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 01 2014 18:58 GMT
#409
On January 02 2014 03:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 03:35 Gamegene wrote:
Simon Boudreault ‏@QuanticSamBuca

Hopes got crushed. Broken Dreams & what ever.


This is just pathetic. It's like he's a moron at a blackjack table gambling away hyun's money and feeling sorry for himself when he went off and lost it all. Because that's exactly what it is.

We need more Xeris's in the world and less dumb asses leading teams.


Hopefully you noticed that the tweet you just linked is from more than 3 weeks ago


does that change anything? he's still an incompetent little fucker who decides to pity himself when he's responsible for the people and players under him.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
PeopleWhoAnnoyYou
Profile Joined November 2012
58 Posts
January 01 2014 19:03 GMT
#410
On January 02 2014 03:45 Cereb wrote:
Please inform us when this ass has been appropriately punished and HyuN has received his money


Simon the scammer is gone forever. He is in hiding now. He will likely never be found.

The SC2 community lost its last chance to confront him about his shady dealings in esports when they let him off the hook with Massan's incident. Truly tragic.
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
January 01 2014 19:04 GMT
#411
Omg, this is really really sad. I really hope he's able to get the money still, I would even donate to make that possible, if lots of people would help..
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 01 2014 19:08 GMT
#412
On January 02 2014 03:55 mikumegurine wrote:
any Lawyer SC2 players here on TL that can help out Hyun for free with legal consulation?


One offer has been presented

On January 02 2014 00:44 ZealotMaster wrote:
Hello

Massive SC2/esports fan. I am also a litigation lawyer at a "Magic Circle" firm, specialising in international/cross-border disputes. Happy to take a look at options (for free) if the relevant person drops me a line privately.

Cheers
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
January 01 2014 19:28 GMT
#413
On January 02 2014 04:03 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 03:45 Cereb wrote:
Please inform us when this ass has been appropriately punished and HyuN has received his money


Simon the scammer is gone forever. He is in hiding now. He will likely never be found.

The SC2 community lost its last chance to confront him about his shady dealings in esports when they let him off the hook with Massan's incident. Truly tragic.


He will likely never be found? What are you even talking about. His contact details are known to the Quantic crew. Massan even lived with that guy and his family. He is just not available online. There is no information about him being in hiding or anything. Jeez...
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
Finalmastery
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States58 Posts
January 01 2014 19:34 GMT
#414
How has there not been a lawsuit for all the money this guy has stolen from various players? It is high time that Every team that has stolen money from players get put into the spotlight. If Esports wants to become legitimate it's time for the heads of teams to start becoming accountable, and time for all players to put any troubles regarding the money THEY earned into the spotlight so we as fans know not to EVER support these sleezy manangers. How has no one taken a stand against this guy before? He's done this a few times already now.
" The will to win is nothing without the will to prepare" - Juma Ikaanga
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
January 01 2014 19:56 GMT
#415
On January 02 2014 03:58 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 03:51 Zealously wrote:
On January 02 2014 03:35 Gamegene wrote:
Simon Boudreault ‏@QuanticSamBuca

Hopes got crushed. Broken Dreams & what ever.


This is just pathetic. It's like he's a moron at a blackjack table gambling away hyun's money and feeling sorry for himself when he went off and lost it all. Because that's exactly what it is.

We need more Xeris's in the world and less dumb asses leading teams.


Hopefully you noticed that the tweet you just linked is from more than 3 weeks ago


does that change anything? he's still an incompetent little fucker who decides to pity himself when he's responsible for the people and players under him.


To add context to the original tweet you posted, the Quantic LoL team (the one from Korea that came to the US) jokingly made the reference to crushing the hopes and dreams of their competition. Ending with "what ever" doesn't really suggest self pity at all.

I agree he is very incompetent and appears to be dodging responsibility, I just thought you could use some context.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 01 2014 20:12 GMT
#416
On January 02 2014 04:28 tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 04:03 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:
On January 02 2014 03:45 Cereb wrote:
Please inform us when this ass has been appropriately punished and HyuN has received his money


Simon the scammer is gone forever. He is in hiding now. He will likely never be found.

The SC2 community lost its last chance to confront him about his shady dealings in esports when they let him off the hook with Massan's incident. Truly tragic.


He will likely never be found? What are you even talking about. His contact details are known to the Quantic crew. Massan even lived with that guy and his family. He is just not available online. There is no information about him being in hiding or anything. Jeez...


Yeah thats what I was thinking. There must be people on Quantic who know him irl, or atleast knows him good enough that they have his adress, contact information and such. And this Simon probably has a family who knows where he is. Im sure he is just living his life as usual offline. It cant be impossible to get a hold of him.
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
January 01 2014 20:43 GMT
#417
On January 02 2014 03:53 tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 02:42 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:
On January 02 2014 02:40 sd_andeh wrote:
What the HELL? Aren't there laws to protect people like this? This has to be some kind of a lawbreak. I just can't believe.... I hope it turns out good for Hyun, he's such a nice guy. If anyone can, please please help him T_T


There aren't laws because "esports" is a new field of entertainment. It's not as organized as professional sports. Most contracts are flimsy.

That's why Violet had to get an "Athlete's visa" and people made a big deal about it. They thought it was implying that Esports were a real sport, but really, it was just the fact that there is no such thing as a progamer's visa (as of right now).


eSports is subject to the same laws as any other sports/business/whatever.

Exactly. It's not a matter of esports. Quantic is a business, a business that hasn't paid out it's employee(s). End of all discussions.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
January 01 2014 20:47 GMT
#418
Yes and actually Hyun shouldn't ask for this tourney he should simply ask for a Lawyer that's enthusiastic about eSports represent him probono and Sue him for Emotional Distress and Back Pay and Also report him to the BBB.

This is actually small claims but No judge is going to see this as good business practice.... especially when its a breach of contract.... which actually Hyun you don't have to play for Quantic anymore if he isn't paying you... check your contract to see what the terms actually are.....
Tossim111
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
January 01 2014 20:47 GMT
#419
If someone can make a contract and then break it and there is nothing to do about it besides taking more losses than gains, does that mean the legal system is broken?
ndesktop
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Romania109 Posts
January 01 2014 20:49 GMT
#420
Good thing guys like Savior were banned for life, while this scumbag and the likes have no problem whatsoever.
Hyun - as many others - is damaging life health, spend his time and efforts, basically *his life* to be a player and entertainer, and mr. Simon is nowhere to be found (right).
As for contracts on McDonalds napkins, they're good. I think Hyun should sue this mofo and let him naked, take his house, something, to prevent players from such abuse. Otherwise, what? a syndicate? Already sounds moronic; I imagine a Jimmy Hoffa-like telling Jaedong "today comes the mayor, so you have to play terran".
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