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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
On December 10 2013 09:20 GranDGranT wrote: I think the best part of the tourney is Nerchio shit talking Nani on twitter after Deserves it considering how much trash talk he gave Vortix | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 10 2013 10:06 Stolker wrote: havent seen the games, but I bet Stardust cheesed or all-ined I don't know you, but I bet you're a Naniwa fanboy. See what assuming does to people? | ||
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Stolker
United States96 Posts
On December 10 2013 10:26 Darkhoarse wrote: I don't know you, but I bet you're a Naniwa fanboy. See what assuming does to people? Well, my assumption was based on previous games. Don't even remotely like nani. | ||
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
On December 10 2013 09:25 Rainmansc wrote: I really am glad for Stardust that he won! But what is it in sc2 that protoss is so boring to watch compared to BW? Im not starting some bw vs sc2 rant or anything, but i really liked to see a good protoss play in BW but in sc2 i just don't enjoy watching it. Anybody feels to same and knows why? It's primarily the fact that warp gate cooldown isn't longer than gateway build times, making there be absolutely no trade-off between building from your gateways and warping in at the front. This makes Protoss need weird countermeasures to achieve anything resembling a defender's advantage, outside of the fact that they usually are holding a ramp on one base. The other problem is the cohesion between chargelots and colossi is too smooth. Chargelots slam into each other from an equal distance and form a line, which is the worst shape to be in if you don't want to get slaughtered by colossi beams. As much as players are gravitating more towards that chargelot-archon-immortal composition in macro PvPs, the colossi tends to win out in the truly massive 200v200 engagements, so games that don't end by the midgame tend to drag out into war-of-the-worlds-styled splash damage slugfests. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 10 2013 10:35 Stolker wrote: Well, my assumption was based on previous games. Don't even remotely like nani. Well my assumption was based on the fact that you're swedish. So we'll call it even. | ||
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On December 10 2013 11:25 Darkhoarse wrote: Well my assumption was based on the fact that you're swedish. So we'll call it even. so was it true or not? cause if i was a betting man, i would bet yes. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 10 2013 12:14 zev318 wrote: so was it true or not? cause if i was a betting man, i would bet yes. I'm going to be honest with you, I only saw the second half of the final game. But that wasn't cheese. | ||
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-niL
Canada1131 Posts
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 10 2013 13:54 Bagration wrote: Holy shit, why is the Dreamhack Summer prizepool so low? It's almost like a 2011 MLG 2011 MLG's were ~15k less than DH Summer of this year. | ||
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Anacreor
Netherlands291 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On December 10 2013 10:36 Pontius Pirate wrote: It's primarily the fact that warp gate cooldown isn't longer than gateway build times, making there be absolutely no trade-off between building from your gateways and warping in at the front. This makes Protoss need weird countermeasures to achieve anything resembling a defender's advantage, outside of the fact that they usually are holding a ramp on one base. The other problem is the cohesion between chargelots and colossi is too smooth. Chargelots slam into each other from an equal distance and form a line, which is the worst shape to be in if you don't want to get slaughtered by colossi beams. As much as players are gravitating more towards that chargelot-archon-immortal composition in macro PvPs, the colossi tends to win out in the truly massive 200v200 engagements, so games that don't end by the midgame tend to drag out into war-of-the-worlds-styled splash damage slugfests. Last time I checked, gateway cooldown was longer than warp gates, 5-7 second I think. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On December 10 2013 10:22 TAMinator wrote: Deserves it considering how much trash talk he gave Vortix reference: | ||
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SeeDs.pt
Portugal33 Posts
On December 10 2013 17:19 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Last time I checked, gateway cooldown was longer than warp gates, 5-7 second I think. yep, that's what he said. "warp gate cooldown isn't longer than gateway build times", just reversed order from what you said  .Think that's a great point, especially since the buildings can transform back and forth. Wish gateway times were faster than warp gates but adjusted so proxy 2 gates weren't instant wins , would make sticking on gateways a decision and something to consider when scouting. Something like building up a timing, switching to warpgate for frontline reinforcement or harass and then back to gateways for perfect macro.edit: forgot to mention congrats to stardust . And also that PvP isn't as bad, for me at least, as before. Especially a very long game a while back of Grubby, think it lasted around 50 minutes. Lots of different types of harass, composition switches and think we even saw every unit in the game employed throughout the last 20-30 minutes. | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On December 10 2013 09:32 bosnia wrote: he will have to be 2nd a bit more to deserve that title. and more liked. zing! | ||
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