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Dakota_Fanning
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On April 13 2014 09:44 ajboddu wrote:Hey Guys, I've run into a troubleshooting problem and hopefully someone can help me out of it. I really want to use this awesome software. Im using a mac on 10.9.2 with Java 7, but when I run the commands everything works till I enter "./Scelight-os-x.command" to start the program (without quotes) but I get a error message + Show Spoiler +Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: hu/sllauncher/ScelightLauncher : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(ClassLoader.java:637)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:621)
at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:141)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:283)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:58)
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:197)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
I would greatly appreciate your help!! I've tried googling and looking for other people with thos problem but iv had no luck. Hopefully its a easy fix. Thanks. Edit: I think I have found my problem, I have Java 7 but when I use the terminal command java -version it is showing java 6. I dont know how to delete java 6, most of my google searches show very difficult methods.
Yes, the error message you provided definitely indicates that you are trying to start Scelight with a Java having lower version than 7.0.
You have to make your Java 7 the default Java or completely uninstall Java 6. Unfortunately I have no experience with OS-X, so anything further I could tell you would be from Googleing how to do it, which obviously you can do too.
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Hey, I'm having problems with setting the executable permission on my OS X 10.9.2. Could you please tell me what should I exactly do in the terminal to have this done? I did enter the location of the file, than pressed enter, than selected New Command, and entered "chmod +x Scelight-linux.sh" (without quotes). Its still giving me the error message that I do not have permission. What could be the problem?
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This a great program. Thank you for your work. I'm glad you have the option to use Game time in the build order because I tend to use the game timer for executing builds or my timing attacks.
For the Multi-Replay Analyzer have you had any thoughts of having a build order tab when you select a player? Comparing how consistently I executed my beginning build order throughout games always seemed like a useful metric to me.
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On April 14 2014 21:53 Serotonine wrote:
Hey, I'm having problems with setting the executable permission on my OS X 10.9.2. Could you please tell me what should I exactly do in the terminal to have this done? I did enter the location of the file, than pressed enter, than selected New Command, and entered "chmod +x Scelight-linux.sh" (without quotes). Its still giving me the error message that I do not have permission. What could be the problem?
1. Open a terminal or command window.
2. Navigate to the folder you have Scelight extracted with the "cd" command. E.g. if you extracted Scelight to the folder "/home/serotonine/Scelight" then use:
cd /home/serotonine/Scelight
3. Give executable permission on the starter script. For OS-X the "Scelight-os-x.command" is to be used (not the linux one you mentioned):
chmod +x Scelight-os-x-sh
4. Once this is done, you can launch Scelight with the following command:
./Scelight-os-x.command
Or you can simply double click on the "Scelight-os-x.command" file in a file browser.
It it tells you you don't have permission, most likely you extracted Scelight with a different user. Download it again and extract it with the user you wish to use it to eliminate this potential problem.
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:51 RedHoodlum wrote:
This a great program. Thank you for your work. I'm glad you have the option to use Game time in the build order because I tend to use the game timer for executing builds or my timing attacks.
For the Multi-Replay Analyzer have you had any thoughts of having a build order tab when you select a player? Comparing how consistently I executed my beginning build order throughout games always seemed like a useful metric to me.
Yes, I have thought about it, build order statistics might get added in a future release.
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Will Scelight have a system to store replays online like sc2gears? If so does the 14$ registration fee allows me to have some space, and how much?
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On April 27 2014 11:19 Percee wrote:
Will Scelight have a system to store replays online like sc2gears? If so does the 14$ registration fee allows me to have some space, and how much?
Scelight does not have a replay storage system like the Sc2gears Database, and none is under development at the moment.
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Love it!
What I miss: The possibility to plot SQ / APM / Injection Gap etc. against time. I realize that the tables under Timelapse contain the information, but an easy way to plot those figures would be nice.
Morgorth
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Do we still have to download Java? And is there an alternative that doesn't require it.
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On April 29 2014 17:06 Morgorth wrote:
Love it!
What I miss: The possibility to plot SQ / APM / Injection Gap etc. against time. I realize that the tables under Timelapse contain the information, but an easy way to plot those figures would be nice.
Morgorth
Showing everything on charts would be a little overwhelming. Instead I chose a different approach: every comparable column (e.g. numbers, time durations, map area etc.) in the Multi-Replay Analyzer are visualized as progress bars turning every column into vertical bar charts. I know this is not the same as plotting a chart, but this works without any additional task and hassle, and you can see the "charts" of every column at the same time.
If you want to "zoom" these vertical bar charts, you can simply resize the columns (by dragging the column header edges), or switch to a smaller/bigger granularity (e.g. if you're viewing the Week Timelapse, you can switch to the Month or Day Timelapse tabs).
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On April 29 2014 17:08 -RusH wrote:
Do we still have to download Java? And is there an alternative that doesn't require it.
Yes, Java is required (7.0 or newer, 8.0 is the newest and recommended one).
If you really don't want Java on your system, here's how you can go around it:
+ Show Spoiler [Scelight without Java installed] +You need a copy of the JRE folder: 1. First install Java. 2. Once it is installed (on Windows by default it goes to the Java folder under the Program Files folder), make a copy of the jre7 or jre8 folder. This folder contains the files of the Java Runtime environment. 3. Once you have a copy of it, you can uninstall Java. After uninstalling it, Java will be gone from your system, and no program will be able to use it / run it; but your copy will remain of course. 4. Create a copy of Scelight-win.cmd and add the folder where you copied the JRE folder to the PATH environment, e.g. set PATH=c:\MY_JRE_COPY\bin;c:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\;c:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\;%PATH% You're done. You can now start Scelight with this Scelight-win-custom.cmd file. Warning!This is a "hack" and as a result the Java copy will not be updated. Also you will have to re-create this custom Scelight-win-custom.cmd file after each Scelight release because the content of Scelight-win.cmd changes with each release (this could be solved/avoided but I won't go into details). The recommended way is to install the latest Java!
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Showing everything on charts would be a little overwhelming.
Of course - I didn't want to have charts which replace the tables, the tables itself are fine and very informative in their own way. I just thought the possibility to plot a single column against another column would add something to scelight. I don't know the effort to accomplish this, and the priority compared to other tasks regarding scelight is probably very low for you. I just wanted to add something to the (probably big) list of "wanted features" ; P
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Loving the program, great utility and so many awesome little opportunities for customization. Could you go a bit more in-depth on the java bypass? It seems to me Java always interferes with OBS/SC2 drastically on mid-high tier PC's. The FPS drop is enormous. Have you guys considered adding that methodology you described as a function? I was looking for this and found it on the last page of the thread thank goodness. Once this page is gone though, QQ headache for some people. Anyways keep it up.
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On May 03 2014 10:35 PainUser wrote:
Loving the program, great utility and so many awesome little opportunities for customization. Could you go a bit more in-depth on the java bypass? It seems to me Java always interferes with OBS/SC2 drastically on mid-high tier PC's. The FPS drop is enormous. Have you guys considered adding that methodology you described as a function? I was looking for this and found it on the last page of the thread thank goodness. Once this page is gone though, QQ headache for some people. Anyways keep it up.
Scelight is a Java program, bypassing Java is not an option. The solution I presented just bypasses Java having to be installed and being available to all programs in your system, but the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) is required to run Scelight. The presented solution keeps a copy of the JRE without letting other programs know about it and use it.
I could bundle the JRE into the Scelight download and that way you would not be required to have Java installed on your machine, but that way the Scelight download would grow up to 50 MB.
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Hello, and thanks for all your work.
Is there any way one could perform a Save action on already existing replays? I just started using the software and I have a bunch of replays that I would like to keep as if they were recorded live.
Thanks again!
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On May 15 2014 03:16 cicuz wrote:
Hello, and thanks for all your work.
Is there any way one could perform a Save action on already existing replays? I just started using the software and I have a bunch of replays that I would like to keep as if they were recorded live.
Thanks again!
By the save action I assume you wish the replay to be placed in the replay backup folder and (re)named properly.
You can do this. To achieve the same result, copy your previous replays manually to the replay backup folder, then list the replays by double clicking on the Replay Folder of the replay backup folder (in the Replay Folders page). This will list all your replays in a table.
Select all replays, and click on the "Rename Selected Replays..." icon on the tool bar over the table. This will open the manual Rename replays dialog. You can rename the selected replays by specifying the same template you use to auto backup your replays.
Note: there are 1 or 2 symbols which differ in the cases of auto backup and manual rename (replay file counter and counter symbols), but if you don't use these, you get exactly the same result.
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
On May 03 2014 10:35 PainUser wrote:
Loving the program, great utility and so many awesome little opportunities for customization. Could you go a bit more in-depth on the java bypass? It seems to me Java always interferes with OBS/SC2 drastically on mid-high tier PC's. The FPS drop is enormous. Have you guys considered adding that methodology you described as a function? I was looking for this and found it on the last page of the thread thank goodness. Once this page is gone though, QQ headache for some people. Anyways keep it up.
On May 13 2014 16:19 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Scelight is a Java program, bypassing Java is not an option. The solution I presented just bypasses Java having to be installed and being available to all programs in your system, but the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) is required to run Scelight. The presented solution keeps a copy of the JRE without letting other programs know about it and use it.
I could bundle the JRE into the Scelight download and that way you would not be required to have Java installed on your machine, but that way the Scelight download would grow up to 50 MB.
I just want to let you know that I revisited the question, and I'm working on making this an official feature.
You will be able to run the next version of Scelight without having to install Java.
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Thank you very much, for the help as well 
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2349 Posts
Released Scelight 5.0 with the option to run Scelight without Java and with Merged Accounts.
Details are in the first post. (Re)start Scelight and it will install the updates automatically. It will also notify you of the updates if you have it running.
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