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On January 13 2014 04:52 KillerDucky wrote:
For the events table, I'd like to see the top event always be that player's next match. 80% of the time Taeja gets out of his RO32 group, and when that happens his chances go up to 70%.
yea this is something I want to add soon. I'll also need the dates of matches for the headband thing anyways. I'll have to scrape liquipedia for the dates. Unfortunately I've been a bit busy lately with moving, and working on a new side project a bit lol. I'll try to do them this month, and then I guess after those 2 I can start working on achievements.
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What is the format for WCS EU/AM Challenger leagues? For AM liquipedia says
"Bracket Stage: 49 players Single-elimination bracket."
lol, does 1 player just get a walkover straight to Premier?
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On January 14 2014 12:24 Die4Ever wrote:
What is the format for WCS EU/AM Challenger leagues? For AM liquipedia says
"Bracket Stage: 49 players Single-elimination bracket."
lol
A single round of Bo5 matches, where the winners advance to Premier and the losers drop out of WCS.
There are 49 players presumably because one extra spot is available in Premier due to Hack leaving the region. EU dealt with this situation by promoting the Challenger player with the most WCS points (Mvp). Something similar could happen here, but we'll have to wait for an announcement. Incidentally, if they do the same thing as EU then TaeJa will be the player who gets promoted.
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On January 14 2014 12:32 Darion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 12:24 Die4Ever wrote:
What is the format for WCS EU/AM Challenger leagues? For AM liquipedia says
"Bracket Stage: 49 players Single-elimination bracket."
lol A single round of Bo5 matches, where the winners advance to Premier and the losers drop out of WCS. There are 49 players presumably because one extra spot is available in Premier due to Hack leaving the region. EU dealt with this situation by promoting the Challenger player with the most WCS points (Mvp). Something similar could happen here, but we'll have to wait for an announcement. Incidentally, if they do the same thing as EU then TaeJa will be the player who gets promoted.
Thanks, so what do you guys think I should do?
auto promote Taeja (most WCS points last year)? Polt (previous champion)? giant wildcard group match?
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Finalized WCS Qualifications. Code A has the groups drawn, the other regions don't yet. WCS EU has Mvp replacing duckdeok and Lucifron out.
For WCS AM they haven't announced what they're doing with the 49th player in Challenger, so I bumped Taeja up to Premier since he had the most WCS Points from last year in AM (EU did the same thing with Mvp replacing duckdeok).
Also full player list for ASUS is in.
And now I go to sleep before Proleague 
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On January 14 2014 12:33 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 12:32 Darion wrote:On January 14 2014 12:24 Die4Ever wrote:
What is the format for WCS EU/AM Challenger leagues? For AM liquipedia says
"Bracket Stage: 49 players Single-elimination bracket."
lol A single round of Bo5 matches, where the winners advance to Premier and the losers drop out of WCS. There are 49 players presumably because one extra spot is available in Premier due to Hack leaving the region. EU dealt with this situation by promoting the Challenger player with the most WCS points (Mvp). Something similar could happen here, but we'll have to wait for an announcement. Incidentally, if they do the same thing as EU then TaeJa will be the player who gets promoted. Thanks, so what do you guys think I should do? auto promote Taeja (most WCS points last year)? Polt (previous champion)? giant wildcard group match?
NASL will probably announce what they're going to do soon, and I think they'll probably follow EU's method for consistency. But the WCS EU announcement says (emphasis added):
Having gathered the most WCS points in WCS Europe 2013, Mvp takes duckdeok's place and advances to the Premier League.
Does that mean that only points within that region count (i.e. ignoring points from season finals and non-wcs tournaments like dreamhack)? I bring that up because, when considering only the points gained from WCS AM Premiere and Challenger, I found Revival had more points in WCS AM than Taeja (1550 to 1450). I haven't checked everyone though, so I'm not sure if he was highest or not.
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On January 14 2014 14:49 TiberiusAk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 12:33 Die4Ever wrote:On January 14 2014 12:32 Darion wrote:On January 14 2014 12:24 Die4Ever wrote:
What is the format for WCS EU/AM Challenger leagues? For AM liquipedia says
"Bracket Stage: 49 players Single-elimination bracket."
lol A single round of Bo5 matches, where the winners advance to Premier and the losers drop out of WCS. There are 49 players presumably because one extra spot is available in Premier due to Hack leaving the region. EU dealt with this situation by promoting the Challenger player with the most WCS points (Mvp). Something similar could happen here, but we'll have to wait for an announcement. Incidentally, if they do the same thing as EU then TaeJa will be the player who gets promoted. Thanks, so what do you guys think I should do? auto promote Taeja (most WCS points last year)? Polt (previous champion)? giant wildcard group match? NASL will probably announce what they're going to do soon, and I think they'll probably follow EU's method for consistency. But the WCS EU announcement says (emphasis added): Show nested quote +Having gathered the most WCS points in WCS Europe 2013, Mvp takes duckdeok's place and advances to the Premier League. Does that mean that only points within that region count (i.e. ignoring points from season finals and non-wcs tournaments like dreamhack)? I bring that up because, when considering only the points gained from WCS AM Premiere and Challenger, I found Revival had more points in WCS AM than Taeja (1550 to 1450). I haven't checked everyone though, so I'm not sure if he was highest or not.
Well right now Revival has a ~ 2.022% chance. If Revival gets 24th place in challenger (which happens ~ 65.45 % of the time) that means he's in premier and has a ~ 3.013% chance. I guess it would actually a little higher because Taeja wouldn't be guaranteed to be in premier, but it's a good estimate for now.
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uh still running...was rushing with Code A starting soon lol
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Ok now it's ready lol.
--------UPDATE Thursday, Jan 16 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) WCS EU Challenger League matches set, GSL Code A Group A and B results in!
Sorry about the delay, had some mysql issues earlier today.
I added some scraping of liquipedia to get results for matches instead of adding them manually. GSL Code A now automatically pulls the results from liquipedia.
I especially needed this for getting the dates and times for each match in order to properly handle upcoming match highlights, headbands, and achievements.
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I see "Upcoming Matches with their predicted effects" on the home page, but I don't see where I can find that. Where do I click to?
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On January 16 2014 13:25 KillerDucky wrote:
I see "Upcoming Matches with their predicted effects" on the home page, but I don't see where I can find that. Where do I click to?
ah sorry those are placeholders
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--------UPDATE Friday, Jan 17 1:50am GMT (GMT+00:00) GSL Code A Group A,B,C,D results in!
Added in results from GSL Code A Groups C and D.
I also have it now searching for events for even lower chance players. Before it wasn't searching for events for players with less than 0.5% chance, but now the cutoff is 0.05%.
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--------UPDATE Friday, Jan 17 8:03am GMT (GMT+00:00) GSL Code A Group A,B,C,D,F results in!
Added in results from GSL Code A Group F.
Some initial testing for upcoming match consequences. Later upcoming matches will be highlighted on the front page.
You can mouse over on the event to see what players are in the match.
Here is an example on Innovation's page.
http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=player&player_id=48
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--------UPDATE Friday, Jan 17 4:10pm GMT (GMT+00:00) GSL Code A Group A,B,C,D,E,F results in!
Added in results from GSL Code A Group E.
Check out the initial testing for upcoming match consequences if you haven't already. Later upcoming matches will be highlighted on the front page.
You can mouse over on the event to see what players are in the match.
Here is an example on Innovation's page.
http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=player&player_id=48
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--------UPDATE Sunday, Jan 19 2:16am GMT (GMT+00:00) WCS EU/AM Challenger Matches set!
WCS EU/AM matches set, along with the liquipedia scraping for them, so they will now show up in the upcoming matches.
I also enabled zooming for the probabilities graphs for players, just click and drag.
Check out the initial testing for upcoming match consequences if you haven't already. Later upcoming matches will be highlighted on the front page, this will probably be done tonight.
You can mouse over on the event to see what players are in the match.
Here is an example on Innovation's page.
http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=player&player_id=48
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I've added the upcoming match highlights to the front page
http://sc2.4ever.tv/
What do you guys think of the formatting? Is there a better way to display this stuff? I was trying to think maybe graphs instead of text but couldn't think of a good graph type.
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I changed the player probability graphs to start in 2014 instead of showing my super old tests from december, and also now they don't have an explicit minimum so the graph is zoomed on the y axis. For example the bottom of Taeja's graph is 75% instead of 0%, I think this makes it easier to read. Let's try some polls.
Poll: Player Probability Graphs ChangeGood (3) 75% Meh (1) 25% Bad (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Player Probability Graphs Change (Vote): Good
(Vote): Bad
(Vote): Meh
Poll: Upcoming Match Highlights FormattingGood (3) 100% Bad (0) 0% Meh (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Upcoming Match Highlights Formatting (Vote): Good
(Vote): Bad
(Vote): Meh
Poll: Next AdditionForeigner Hope Rating (4) 57% Biggest Winners/Losers for past ~5 days (2) 29% Headbands (1) 14% Achievements (0) 0% Event Markers on Player Probability Graphs (a dot for the day of the GSL finals) (0) 0% Other - leave a comment (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Next Addition (Vote): Headbands
(Vote): Achievements
(Vote): Foreigner Hope Rating
(Vote): Biggest Winners/Losers for past ~5 days
(Vote): Event Markers on Player Probability Graphs (a dot for the day of the GSL finals)
(Vote): Other - leave a comment
For explanation on the headbands thing just look on page 4 for my interview.
Achievements will be like Polt Award for winning 2 WCS Regionals in a row, The Other NesTea award for winning a WCS Regional without losing a single map, some achievements for win streaks, etc. If you have suggestions for achievements or achievement names feel free to post them.
Biggest winners/losers for past 5+ days would be the players who had the biggest change in their chances.
Event markers on the player probability graphs would show markers for when tournaments started/ended, and some for changes made to WCS Predictor (like TeSL added to simulation).
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I voted for Foreigner Hope Rating as the next addition, as I would like to see that more than anything else.
However, here is another suggestion: clean up the top 50 section. Slightly less information, or rearranged more cleanly. Have ranking numbers 1, 2, 3, etc. Use country flag images instead of a 2 letter code. Maybe write names as Acer.Scarlett instead of two separate columns. Maybe make columns not as wide. Order the columns rank, country, name, odds of top 16, aligulac rating. As the section is right now I get lost trying to tie together someone's name with their odds and rating. It would also be nice to see at a quick glance which countries (besides KR of course) have people in the top 50.
Edit: Maybe also use an image for the race (Protoss, Terran, Zerg) instead of words. Much easier to tell at a glance which races are doing well, and less distracting information at the same time.
Love the new version! Keep it up.
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On January 22 2014 15:20 Sherlock117 wrote:
I voted for Foreigner Hope Rating as the next addition, as I would like to see that more than anything else.
However, here is another suggestion: clean up the top 50 section. Slightly less information, or rearranged more cleanly. Have ranking numbers 1, 2, 3, etc. Use country flag images instead of a 2 letter code. Maybe write names as Acer.Scarlett instead of two separate columns. Maybe make columns not as wide. Order the columns rank, country, name, odds of top 16, aligulac rating. As the section is right now I get lost trying to tie together someone's name with their odds and rating. It would also be nice to see at a quick glance which countries (besides KR of course) have people in the top 50.
Edit: Maybe also use an image for the race (Protoss, Terran, Zerg) instead of words. Much easier to tell at a glance which races are doing well, and less distracting information at the same time.
Love the new version! Keep it up.
By top 50 section, do you mean the top 1,407 section? Lol, it has page buttons at the bottom, it shows every player active in aligulac for the last 3 periods.
Thanks for the feedback! I definitely need to get the race/country icons from liquipedia if they'll let me. I actually disagree on the team/player thing though, because if they're in the same column then you can't sort by player name, but you would still be able to filter by player name so maybe that's ok.
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I did a kind of half update. IEM Sao Paulo groups are in, WCS AM Challenger League Day 2 is still midway, and it was started before GSL Code A Group J started. You can look at the upcoming match list to see which results are not in yet.
I added graphs for summed percentages for teams, and for countries. The summed percentages for countries is kind of like a preview for the foreigner hope rating. When completed the foreigner hope rating will give probability of 0,1,2, and 3 or more foreigners making the top 16.
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