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Top 50 streamers in October 2013 (+ WCS numbers) - Page 5
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tili
United States1332 Posts
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YuiHirasawa
Japan220 Posts
On November 02 2013 11:19 Juicy Orange wrote: I guess top tier players will just have to be more entertaining. I'd love to see another Dragon/Destiny. It's really hard to come by a Code S player that streams often and has a funny personality. It's not about making *funny* faces on the cam and doing weird sounds (things korean streamers think are funny). It's about being genuine, interesting and in total symbiosis with your viewership. Grubby does that to an extent (minus the totally genuine part, he seems..fake or something) I don't think any other streamer will ever be able to be as entertaining as destiny. It may sound creepy but when he is live I see him as a big brother (even if he is younger than me) and I feel emotionally involved with what he says/experience on his stream/life. | ||
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Frex
Finland888 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On November 03 2013 18:53 YuiHirasawa wrote: I don't think any other streamer will ever be able to be as entertaining as destiny. It may sound creepy but when he is live I see him as a big brother (even if he is younger than me) and I feel emotionally involved with what he says/experience on his stream/life. It says a lot about the community, though, haha. There are THAT many people really interested in seeing that stuff. I wonder what that will mean for the long-run of things. I wonder if TL will beat Reddit 'cause god knows it's impossible to work together haha | ||
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mathieu026
14 Posts
On November 02 2013 20:04 Crytash wrote: Now before anyone crys wolve about WCS EU, i want to take a better look at it. The argument of the OP for the bad numbers of the season 3 finals is, that it was held in a bad time zone for the european viewership (which is quite logical). However if this would be the only problem WCS EU would have had the same numbers for the third season as they had for the second and if you look them up the differences are pretty big for the first day,. This can be quite misleading, so you need to look a bit closer to be get the "real" picture. day 1 season 2 day 1 season 3 A 11k difference on average and a 17k for the peak. I don't remember what happend @ 17:42 day 1 season 3, but it sure as hell cost the stream many viewers. now let us have a look @ day 2 day 2 season 2 day 2 season 3 A 5k difference on average and a 6k for the peak. As you can see this is a slight decline, but it shows that the viewership for the EU side did not drop to much. Now we can see, that the big drop for te first day is not a example for the state of the viewership of prof. SC2. Still the situation is grim. What some people forget is, that this is not the first decline, it is the third one in a row. WCSEU season 1 day 1 had an average of 55k and day 2 around 82 - on AVERAGE. Now we all can agree that this is becouse of HOTS, but this also means, that HOTS could not maintain their viewership gains and was nothing more than just a flash. I think we can all agree, that this is a problem, becouse LOTV will take its time (probably till 2015, but that is ofc speculation) and until then sc2 needs at least to be stable and stop the decline. You could also argue that the season 2 EU finals had 5 Europeans with atleast one of them having a good shot at the finals(Naniwa) and the season 3 finals just had 3 Europeans with no one realistically having a chance of winning the whole thing. I don't think that you can say that the drop in viewership is becuase of HOTS. I feel that people sometimes get fed up with WCS especially with EU because they mostly did round of 16 and round of 8 in the same week. Which makes the scene over saturated. I would like to see what things like Dreamhack, IEM and Red Bull were and are doing with viewers. If there is a big drop here then we can say that there is a problem with HOTS maintaining viewers. | ||
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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Mvrio
689 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
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Piotr
26 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On November 05 2013 20:43 Piotr wrote: Just to say that there were around 7k people on the french stream for the WCS finals that you did not take into account since it was not on twitch (daylimotion). As long as a stream is linked from teamliquid, I'll get the numbers regardless of the actual streaming host. Assuming the streaming host actually provides such numbers, which daylimotion does. | ||
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TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
I thought the hours/viewers only counted days we streamed under the SC category? Anyway, I'll be switching to random and re-starting practice in December! I miss SC2! | ||
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cmen15
United States1519 Posts
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Noobity
United States871 Posts
Streams are like Television, people watch to be entertained, and it's more entertaining (for most) to watch something that isn't just game play. We want to see decent game play (to imply that Destiny's not at least decent is ignorant) and comedy. I think the guy's a dick, but damned if he ain't funny. I don't think this means anything about the state of SC2, I think if nothing else it proves that it can continue as an entertaining medium. I do think it removes quite a bit of the emphasis on extremely good players though. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Xitac.
Germany5 Posts
On November 02 2013 11:19 Juicy Orange wrote: I guess top tier players will just have to be more entertaining. I'd love to see another Dragon/Destiny. It's really hard to come by a Code S player that streams often and has a funny personality. Its becaue they sold their soul to be that good | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On November 03 2013 19:27 Viserion wrote: With BlizzCon We have to keep in mind that its stream should be available from blizzard website and will attract viewers outside from SC2 community much more. It's also much more friendly for EU being friday/saturday. I simply cannot stay up late on sundays. I have work/university to and that means I'm much more inclined to go to sleep early and watch the VoDs later or just read the result in the LR. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On November 07 2013 05:21 TaraBabcock wrote: Hmm, last month and this month I took a hiatus from SC2 because of work... I shouldn't even be on here. I definitely didn't stream 20+ hours of StarCraft at 200 viewers. That was all other games. I thought the hours/viewers only counted days we streamed under the SC category? Anyway, I'll be switching to random and re-starting practice in December! I miss SC2! The most likely explanation is that you forgot to set the game to something other than SC2 here on teamliquid. Looking at my database, that seems to be just what happened. As far as teamliquid is concerned, you did not play anything but SC2 in the last month (and this month, too!).  It happens all the time. Just set the game to misc (or whatever you're playing) here on TL. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
edit: and ofc as always, much much thanks for the interesting numbers, Conti. | ||
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TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
On November 07 2013 06:38 Conti wrote: The most likely explanation is that you forgot to set the game to something other than SC2 here on teamliquid. Looking at my database, that seems to be just what happened. As far as teamliquid is concerned, you did not play anything but SC2 in the last month (and this month, too!). It happens all the time. Just set the game to misc (or whatever you're playing) here on TL. Oh, yeah, I don't change TL. I didn't know anyone did that. I thought the stats came from Twitch. Ouch, that sucks. Must be a LOT of misinformation then with streamer who play multiple games. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On November 02 2013 11:07 tshi wrote: i think it just goes to show that personality > * at the end of the day in terms of numbers. There are always going to be nameless koreans who are better than a shitton of people, but the audience that makes up those huge numbers doesn't care about that stuff.. A lot of people who just watch SC2 want to be entertained, so of course interesting people like Destiny will get more eyeballs. I think it's funny that the number of people who want to watch high-level play is so low. I dont' see how this community will sustain itself after a long time if most of the people who watch are just casual players and stuff. I think it more has to do with there are constantly a billion tournaments going on which feature the high-level play so people get their high-level play fix there. Where as you don't get to see the "personality" people such as destiny in tournaments as much so when they stream people are more interested in watching because it is something they don't see as much | ||
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