EPTTop 50 streamers in October 2013 (+ WCS numbers) - Page 4
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jackslater
Russian Federation604 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On November 02 2013 02:53 Sufinsil wrote: Hopefully the west coast time of BlizzCon will help europe viewers some. Depends on when Blizzcon starts, I don't know the times. But yeah it might be a lot better. EDIT: Omg I'm stupid. It's indeed exact the opposite. It's gonna be even worse. | ||
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Littlesheep
Canada217 Posts
On November 02 2013 14:25 havok55 wrote: The night Destiny hit 8500, the stream was really good. Now I'm no Destiny fanboy, it was just very entertaining with Desrow. Both the games and the banter. I havent watched his stream in ages, but tuned in because I was curious why he had so many viewers that day. A lot of Koreans dont even have cams, which is one of the draws of watching a streamer. How do we know someone else isnt playing (especially in a team house)? And they like to run replays while they do something else. As a viewer that offends me a little. You can tell they dont really give a shit, so why should we. I don't remember seeing a streamer without a cam but I agree with you on the subject of playing replays on a stream, it's obnoxious. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Fody03
Italy310 Posts
On November 02 2013 16:49 HolydaKing wrote: Depends on when Blizzcon starts, I don't know the times. But yeah it might be a lot better. EDIT: Omg I'm stupid. It's indeed exact the opposite. It's gonna be even worse. If i remember correctly, ro16 starts at around 9pm GMT +1 and ro8 at 2am GMT +1. So yea,the worst possible time for EU | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On November 02 2013 10:43 Cheren wrote: I think the shift in viewers from player streams to non-player streams is that in general player streams have less commentary than before, as a viewer I want to know what's going on even if I'm not on the tab with the stream. And this also explains why Destiny is #1 in viewers, he's pretty much the only featured streamer who's always commentating. I see you havent watched Welmu stream or elfis. Like Welmu is talking almost all the time what he is doing and why. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
I think it also has something to do with people preferring fun over high level of play. When most people play a game, they do so for fun. Winning, laddering and super competitive play is fun in its own right but there's something to be said about playing the game to actually have fun. Blizzard failed to understand this and it's why you see amazing players like JD stream with less than 2000 viewers. Destiny's stream is proof that a game has to be fun before anything else. That's why Destiny's stream has so many viewers. Same thing can be said for Idra really. You learn quite a lot from his stream but the way he presents it, with his dry humour and straight-to-the-point attitude is also entertaining. Day9 has a shit ton of viewers not just because his analysis is spot on but because he's so fucking funny with that. Tl:dr: games are supposed to be fun, not competitive | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
Destiny's stream been so entertaining this month. He's low gm level, but talks through the game. It was really fun when he brought Desrow on to coach him. More streamers should try that. It's a viewer magnet. And the return of DEMU.  | ||
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Weavel
Finland9224 Posts
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Crytash
Germany251 Posts
day 1 season 2 day 1 season 3 A 11k difference on average and a 17k for the peak. I don't remember what happend @ 17:42 day 1 season 3, but it sure as hell cost the stream many viewers. now let us have a look @ day 2 day 2 season 2 day 2 season 3 A 5k difference on average and a 6k for the peak. As you can see this is a slight decline, but it shows that the viewership for the EU side did not drop to much. Now we can see, that the big drop for te first day is not a example for the state of the viewership of prof. SC2. Still the situation is grim. What some people forget is, that this is not the first decline, it is the third one in a row. WCSEU season 1 day 1 had an average of 55k and day 2 around 82 - on AVERAGE. Now we all can agree that this is becouse of HOTS, but this also means, that HOTS could not maintain their viewership gains and was nothing more than just a flash. I think we can all agree, that this is a problem, becouse LOTV will take its time (probably till 2015, but that is ofc speculation) and until then sc2 needs at least to be stable and stop the decline. | ||
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Hermanoid
Sweden213 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
On November 02 2013 09:41 Sub40APM wrote: so if destiny always averaged about 1000 less viewers when he was in lol, how much money did he lose when he quit sc2 briefly? he had better numbers for lol than he did for sc2 at the time, but now its the other way around, so it only makes sense for him to come back to sc2. | ||
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Destiny
United States280 Posts
On November 02 2013 12:17 Qwyn wrote: he's just fucking Destiny. http://i.imgur.com/IyhUb2s.gif | ||
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RESOqub
51 Posts
On November 02 2013 19:13 Incognoto wrote: Destiny's stream is so good because he does other things than just playing starcraft though. Like, when he plays it's more entertaining to watch him than it is to watch WCS. I'm not kidding when I say this. It's really fun to see Destiny talk smack about protoss while playing it. Do I learn anything about playing zerg when watching him? Fuck no. Am I entertained? Fuck yes. The down time between games is him just talking with chat or discussing varied topics. His chat on his website at destiny.gg is also really amazing. It's extremely laid back and I sometimes find myself laughing out loud; solely because the people in destiny's chat are funny (emotes are really funny too). I think it also has something to do with people preferring fun over high level of play. When most people play a game, they do so for fun. Winning, laddering and super competitive play is fun in its own right but there's something to be said about playing the game to actually have fun. Blizzard failed to understand this and it's why you see amazing players like JD stream with less than 2000 viewers. Destiny's stream is proof that a game has to be fun before anything else. That's why Destiny's stream has so many viewers. Same thing can be said for Idra really. You learn quite a lot from his stream but the way he presents it, with his dry humour and straight-to-the-point attitude is also entertaining. Day9 has a shit ton of viewers not just because his analysis is spot on but because he's so fucking funny with that. Tl:dr: games are supposed to be fun, not competitive Are you kidding me? Watching either stream or worse, engaging with their cretinous fanbases is like wading in a river of verbal and intellectual sewage. Still, at least some people have some taste. DeMuslim remains the best, most interesting, most intelligent streamer out there and continues to be rewarded for his diligence. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On November 02 2013 06:12 desRow wrote: I'm glad you came back with the total amount of viewers for both tournaments and personal streams, sc2 is doing well now if we can get WCS to lay off the around the clock streaming to give personal streamers a chance, this would be perfect !Thanks again for your posts! EDIT: I gifted you gold for including the overall sc2 numbers graph <3Thank you, dear Sir. You're awesome. On November 02 2013 07:27 Greendotz wrote: Small criticism. On the “total SC2 stream viewers by month” graph perhaps you could choose contrasting colours as opposed to ‘pink’ and ‘a marginally lighter shade of pink’  . Aside from that great work as always. Yes. No idea what I was thinking there. Just reuploaded the graph with proper colors. On November 02 2013 12:51 Sithril wrote: She was streaming a DnD session (8hrs). She had a short (2.5hrs) SC2 stream right before it; the vods are properly tagged as SC2 and DnD, but that information may have got lost somewhere on the way to the stats-collection-thing you use. Hmm, that's probably it, yes. A streamer has to tag their game both on twitch and here on teamliquid, so she probably just forgot the latter. It happens. | ||
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Destiny
United States280 Posts
On November 02 2013 21:51 RESOqub wrote: Are you kidding me? Watching either stream or worse, engaging with their cretinous fanbases is like wading in a river of verbal and intellectual sewage. Still, at least some people have some taste. DeMuslim remains the best, most interesting, most intelligent streamer out there and continues to be rewarded for his diligence. You realize all fanbases are more or less the same, right? When you call out any particular streamers fanbase, you're more or less insulting the entire stream-viewing community, whether or not you realize it. "At least some people have good taste...those are the people who agree with my PoV, though." How enlightening. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On November 02 2013 18:50 Fody03 wrote: If i remember correctly, ro16 starts at around 9pm GMT +1 and ro8 at 2am GMT +1. So yea,the worst possible time for EU The worst possible time to me is when the tournaments take place in Asia (ie starting time at 3AM). | ||
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On November 03 2013 01:28 Kyir wrote: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea that the finals just weren't that interesting. Indeed, it could very well have contributed. What we would need is to understand where the viewers are sitting and see the distribution for different events. Surely NSA must have this data easily accessible...? | ||
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