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Top 50 streamers in October 2013 (+ WCS numbers) - Page 2

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pwnageoftheyear
Profile Joined September 2012
United States64 Posts
November 02 2013 00:47 GMT
#21
YESTINY
eventually, we all must learn when to shut the f*** up
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 02 2013 00:48 GMT
#22
I hope we can reach 150k or 200k for Blizzcon, but I doubt it.
100k would not be impressive in my book.

Also, these days it's just hard to find a good player stream. Sometimes I want to watch one, but there isn't any. :/

Good job on keeping track of the stats as always. I wish other games had people this dedicated to this kind of stuff.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 02 2013 01:00 GMT
#23
On November 02 2013 09:48 Noocta wrote:
I hope we can reach 150k or 200k for Blizzcon, but I doubt it.
100k would not be impressive in my book.

Also, these days it's just hard to find a good player stream. Sometimes I want to watch one, but there isn't any. :/

Good job on keeping track of the stats as always. I wish other games had people this dedicated to this kind of stuff.

BlizzCon is in West Coast. East Coast is okay for Europe but West is very very hard to catch.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
November 02 2013 01:04 GMT
#24
I don't dislike Destiny or something but this is pretty sad imho.
oFFoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Lithuania33 Posts
November 02 2013 01:10 GMT
#25
i totally had to go to sleep during season 3 finals. it started around 3:00 after midnight and next day was monday, so..
wut
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 01:14:32
November 02 2013 01:13 GMT
#26
forGG has streamed 306 hours...
That's fucking crazy for a pro...especially for hiding your builds.

+ Show Spoiler +

Not that it matters since he always do the same
+ Show Spoiler +
lel

RIP MKP
Xitac.
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany5 Posts
November 02 2013 01:17 GMT
#27
Where do you get the data from?
elpollobosso
Profile Joined July 2012
United States20 Posts
November 02 2013 01:20 GMT
#28
Wow thankyou, that was informative
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
November 02 2013 01:23 GMT
#29
On November 02 2013 02:53 Sufinsil wrote:
Hopefully the west coast time of BlizzCon will help europe viewers some.


Exact opposite. It makes it worse.

Example being IEM NYC finishing around 6pm Eastern time is midnight in central Europe (2am in Russia, 11pm in UK)

6pm for Blizzcon will be 3am for central Europe, 5am Russia and 2am in UK.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
Soan
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
New Zealand194 Posts
November 02 2013 01:29 GMT
#30
On November 02 2013 07:27 Greendotz wrote:
Small criticism. On the “total SC2 stream viewers by month” graph perhaps you could choose contrasting colours as opposed to ‘pink’ and ‘a marginally lighter shade of pink’ . Aside from that great work as always.


Yeah, I can't actually tell the difference between the two colours.
Juicy Orange
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada133 Posts
November 02 2013 01:33 GMT
#31
On November 02 2013 09:41 Sub40APM wrote:
so if destiny always averaged about 1000 less viewers when he was in lol, how much money did he lose when he quit sc2 briefly?

Not much. Destiny left SC2 shortly after he got screwed over by Own3d he only streamed SC2 on Twitch for a while after the incident. He also wasn't averaging 2-3k viewers when he first started streaming on Twitch.

Maybe he lost out on a bit of money, but he easily makes up for it by having fan subscriptions and by build-a-box.

Anyways, I don't think his viewer count heavily relies on what game he is playing cause a lot of the people just watch him cause he has such a "colorful" personality (which is the reason why I still watch his LoL streams even if I think dota is better)
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 02 2013 01:43 GMT
#32
I think the shift in viewers from player streams to non-player streams is that in general player streams have less commentary than before, as a viewer I want to know what's going on even if I'm not on the tab with the stream.

And this also explains why Destiny is #1 in viewers, he's pretty much the only featured streamer who's always commentating.
Juicy Orange
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada133 Posts
November 02 2013 01:52 GMT
#33
On November 02 2013 10:43 Cheren wrote:
I think the shift in viewers from player streams to non-player streams is that in general player streams have less commentary than before, as a viewer I want to know what's going on even if I'm not on the tab with the stream.

And this also explains why Destiny is #1 in viewers, he's pretty much the only featured streamer who's always commentating.

He also had a bit of help from special guests like XJ9, his ex-girlfriend, and Desrow.
MysticaL
Profile Joined December 2003
Canada118 Posts
November 02 2013 01:53 GMT
#34
wow, I didn't know about this until I came across your Top 50 threads.

that's some really really cool info you've collected
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
November 02 2013 01:56 GMT
#35
STEVEN!!!
Life | Ryung | Mvp | MarineKing | Jaedong | Bisu | HerO
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 02 2013 02:00 GMT
#36
Destiny saving Starcraft like the good ol days.

If Blizzard sets the final past 1AM they'll loose a lot of viewers only because of it.
NEVER leave Europe out of the Finals if you want as many as possible to watch it.
The curse is real
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
November 02 2013 02:03 GMT
#37
DESTINY! Definitely something to think about that a retired(?) player is at the top... I think when watching personal streams, people prefer an entertaining personality over pure skill.

Also congrats again to Avilo! I started watching his stream when he got featured and his mech is superfun to watch.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
November 02 2013 02:07 GMT
#38
On November 02 2013 11:03 Holdenintherye wrote:
DESTINY! Definitely something to think about that a retired(?) player is at the top... I think when watching personal streams, people prefer an entertaining personality over pure skill.

Also congrats again to Avilo! I started watching his stream when he got featured and his mech is superfun to watch.

i think it just goes to show that personality > * at the end of the day in terms of numbers. There are always going to be nameless koreans who are better than a shitton of people, but the audience that makes up those huge numbers doesn't care about that stuff.. A lot of people who just watch SC2 want to be entertained, so of course interesting people like Destiny will get more eyeballs.

I think it's funny that the number of people who want to watch high-level play is so low. I dont' see how this community will sustain itself after a long time if most of the people who watch are just casual players and stuff.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Juicy Orange
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada133 Posts
November 02 2013 02:19 GMT
#39
On November 02 2013 11:07 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 11:03 Holdenintherye wrote:
DESTINY! Definitely something to think about that a retired(?) player is at the top... I think when watching personal streams, people prefer an entertaining personality over pure skill.

Also congrats again to Avilo! I started watching his stream when he got featured and his mech is superfun to watch.

i think it just goes to show that personality > * at the end of the day in terms of numbers. There are always going to be nameless koreans who are better than a shitton of people, but the audience that makes up those huge numbers doesn't care about that stuff.. A lot of people who just watch SC2 want to be entertained, so of course interesting people like Destiny will get more eyeballs.

I think it's funny that the number of people who want to watch high-level play is so low. I dont' see how this community will sustain itself after a long time if most of the people who watch are just casual players and stuff.


I guess top tier players will just have to be more entertaining. I'd love to see another Dragon/Destiny. It's really hard to come by a Code S player that streams often and has a funny personality.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
November 02 2013 02:24 GMT
#40
On November 02 2013 11:19 Juicy Orange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 11:07 tshi wrote:
On November 02 2013 11:03 Holdenintherye wrote:
DESTINY! Definitely something to think about that a retired(?) player is at the top... I think when watching personal streams, people prefer an entertaining personality over pure skill.

Also congrats again to Avilo! I started watching his stream when he got featured and his mech is superfun to watch.

i think it just goes to show that personality > * at the end of the day in terms of numbers. There are always going to be nameless koreans who are better than a shitton of people, but the audience that makes up those huge numbers doesn't care about that stuff.. A lot of people who just watch SC2 want to be entertained, so of course interesting people like Destiny will get more eyeballs.

I think it's funny that the number of people who want to watch high-level play is so low. I dont' see how this community will sustain itself after a long time if most of the people who watch are just casual players and stuff.


I guess top tier players will just have to be more entertaining. I'd love to see another Dragon/Destiny. It's really hard to come by a Code S player that streams often and has a funny personality.

Yeah, I guess you can take the high-road and be smug about being a person who only watches skill above all other things...I just get the feeling that there aren't enough of those people to sustain the entire scene. So I hope SC2 stays interesting and continues to be a balanced and fun game!
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
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