Depth of Micro - Page 47

On November 10 2013 01:48 Falling wrote:
Well. That is a very frustrating response from David Kim and demonstrably and entirely untrue. It took me a long time to understand how the chinese triangle worked with mutalisk micro and to this day I still can't execute it properly. However. That didn't stop me from being awed the first time I saw pro's pick off scourge after scourge rather than seeing scourge immediately explode into the mutalisks.

Knowing the mechanics of how the micro operates is entirely unnecessary to enjoy this sort of micro because it inherently visual. That's all it is. There is no hidden micro- the unit moves back and forth, no tricky spells, behind the scene buffs, etc. Just moving in and out, moving at top speed and picking off targets.

All you need to know how the unit normally operates when just clicked into battle with normal good positioning and spread and then you see moving shot micro. And you are like, what the heck? How did they even do that. I know those units normally operate and this is sooooo crazy. That's exciting. That's cool. And that's just as much for casuals as for pros.

We also have casters who can explain how the micro works. And it is exactly the sort of micro that makes a casual want to go out and try it out.

On November 10 2013 19:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:

The newer ATI drivers make BW unplayable actually

Unless ati or Blizzard do something about it, converting SC2 into BW is really the only solution left.

On November 10 2013 20:42 zokker13 wrote:


It's possible to play BW on Win 7 with an AMD/ ATI card.
Launch the game in window mode with a "doubled- sized" window and a lock your mouse in it.
You find those options in the ICCUP- launcher or mc64launcher.

Play 5 games and you're okay with it!

On November 10 2013 19:40 papalion wrote:

Sorry, dear people, but since reading all of this whining, written by crackpots, wannabe game designers, pathological nostalgics, and shit storm addicts, I lost all respect to people who say that even one thing has to be changed in SC2.

On November 10 2013 19:40 papalion wrote:


Classic. "I know what has to be changed to make SC2's popularity shoot through the roof.", lol

This so-called well written OP really says that that Blizzard has to throw their game completely over. It is not at all likely that those "proposals" can be implemented with the editor blizzard uses.

Sorry, dear people, but since reading all of this whining, written by crackpots, wannabe game designers, pathological nostalgics, and shit storm addicts, I lost all respect to people who say that even one thing has to be changed in SC2.

To Day9: He says he likes Frisbee over Baseball. Yeah. Um. The Major League Frisbee is so popular, more than MLB. Second, a guy that says he does not like the game should not be invited to the biggest SC2 event of the year.

The problem is not an amount of wrongly set "certain numbers in their code". What is wrong with SC2 is a small, but very loud part of the community, people who in truth have NO intent to make anything better, but only to show off how much smarter they are than David Kim. Oh yes, David Kim, he is not to envy.

The sad part is that the rare cases of constructive criticism completely get lost besides those threads.


Lastly:

BREAKING NEWS!!! BW IS STILL PLAYABLE.

Go install it and play it, but please shut up about SC2. NO ONE wants to know your opinion, except yourself.

I hope TL will undertake the next step and either ban all SC2 whiners or make a special forum for them, moving all threads about how "bad" and "flawed" SC2 is there. I would call it the cesspool.

On November 10 2013 21:57 Wombat_NI wrote:
You are a grade A myopic if you think there is nothing that can be improved in SC2

On November 10 2013 22:46 papalion wrote:


I think that SC2 can be improved, but not by guys who want BW back.

On the opposite, you think that is the right way how to improve SC2? By whining this forum full every time one of you loses an SC2 game? By creating demands that no one can fulfill?



"Hey Blizzard, can you completely work over anything but BW, because it is my favourite game?"

"Hey David Kim, doing your job well is so easy, and especially I and my TL fellows know how to do this."

On November 10 2013 23:11 Xiphos wrote:


The only way to improve SC2 is to not buy LotV in order to force Blizzard et all to make drastic changes in terms of gameplay.

On November 10 2013 23:11 Xiphos wrote:


The only way to improve SC2 is to not buy LotV in order to force Blizzard et all to make drastic changes in terms of gameplay.

On November 10 2013 23:19 ETisME wrote:

or you know, just by releasing lotv like how hots improved sc2 as a whole

On November 10 2013 23:29 Plansix wrote:

I am pretty sure that would have zero effect, since the majority of sales are from people who never play multiplayer.

On November 11 2013 01:12 Xiphos wrote:


Not enough, the game is still fundamentally micro-restrictive.



And majority of them have shown distaste due to gameplay's staleness.

On November 11 2013 01:19 S1eth wrote:

It's only you.

On November 10 2013 22:46 papalion wrote:


I think that SC2 can be improved, but not by guys who want BW back.

On the opposite, you think that is the right way how to improve SC2? By whining this forum full every time one of you loses an SC2 game? By creating demands that no one can fulfill?



"Hey Blizzard, can you completely work over anything but BW, because it is my favourite game?"

"Hey David Kim, doing your job well is so easy, and especially I and my TL fellows know how to do this."

On November 11 2013 01:12 Xiphos wrote:


Not enough, the game is still fundamentally micro-restrictive.



And majority of them have shown distaste due to gameplay's staleness.

On November 11 2013 01:39 Xiphos wrote:


Its not. This is how a regular conversation goes in my campus.

"What kind of games do you play?"

"Umm..for PS3: Battlefield, Skyrim; and a bit of casual SC2."

"Hey I have Battlefield for PS3 too! I brought WoL back when it first came out. How's the expansion? Should I give it a try?"

"They didn't change much except adding a couple of units. So what's your PSN? We should play Battlefield sometime."

"Oh okay. Here, I'll write it down."

These are the exact same words in conversation from library.

On November 11 2013 03:13 algue wrote:
David Kim was clear that Blizzard isn't willing to implement Lalush's ideas and since this thread is slowly turning (if it's not already) into a BW vs Sc2 hate thread, shouldn't a mod close it ?

On November 11 2013 03:17 JeanLuc wrote:


Don't know all the closing criteria myself but I don't think such an exceptional, well thought out OP such as this should be penalized for the conduct of certain posters in the thread. As a community we should be pressuring Blizzard to implement changes along the lines OP has detailed here.