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Khai
Australia551 Posts
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
At least MVP is now IMMVP again instead of LG-IMMVP | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
Salaries of players like MVP, Nestea, LosirA alone will eat up alot of that money not even to mention the Coaching staff or the cook/cleaner, then there is the housing rent + electric/water, food, transport local + international etc etc. It's easy to think a player that goes to a team house without having a salary = FREE ! But in reality take a person in your house and supply him/her with there needs, and you'd be suprised how expensive that is. I honestly expected they got more from LG on a year basis, but perhaps that's because i compared it more to BW. Ayway i do hope IM finds another big sponsor, though the chances atm seem slim. | ||
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aeligos
United States172 Posts
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B_Type13X2
Canada122 Posts
What the hell does that have to do with SC2 and E-sports? Well LG might have been breaking even with IM when SC2 was the biggest thing in E-sports but now that it is declining or atleast isn't the biggest thing on the block it would be hard to argue from a value standpoint that continuing to sponsor the team is worth it. You can boycott them and be as vehemently toxic towards them as you want but all that does is re-enforce to them that leaving this scene was the right thing to do for them from a financial standpoint and from an image standpoint. I mean who wants to put money into a scene when the response is generally unenthusiastic to outright hostile. Further I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard themselves tones down WCS in the next few seasons because the monetary gain does not meet with projected profits so the budget has to be scaled back to reflect this. In layman's terms breaking even or barely showing a profit is not a winning business model so somethings will have to be cut back. | ||
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j1nzo
Germany367 Posts
also on the first few pages i read comments like "$500k? that doesn't sound much" an i can only facepalm to statements like that... considering how im was doing well before the sponsorship, i can only hope this will not hurt their team as a whole- even though i can imagine that now a huge amount is missing in comparison. but then again im was fine w/o lg in the golden days of sc2... *edit* im's lol team is currently playing on ogn champions winter. they still have their regular jerseys with lg as sponsor im vs kt champions winter 2013 | ||
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Lorch
Germany3684 Posts
On October 25 2013 18:57 j1nzo wrote: to me this is kinda big news... i still remember how tastosis did stress out how huge this was. also on the first few pages i read comments like "$500k? that doesn't sound much" an i can only facepalm to statements like that... considering how im was doing well before the sponsorship, i can only hope this will not hurt their team as a whole- even though i can imagine that now a huge amount is missing in comparison. but then again im was fine w/o lg in the golden days of sc2... Well given that they gained like 10 sponsorships since the LG deal started I'd imagine they will continue to be able to operate. Still loosing 500k (for the sake of this community I hope nobody actually things this is not a lot of money) is huge and I think they will have to make cuts to survive without it (maybe loosing the lol teams?). Still given that they left esf I'd imagine kespa will help them out with finding new sponsors anyways. This deal was huge as teams had been asking LG to sponsor them for over a decade now. And then IM got the deal, something even kespa teams weren't able to get at the peak of brood war. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On October 25 2013 19:19 Lorch wrote: Well given that they gained like 10 sponsorships since the LG deal started I'd imagine they will continue to be able to operate. Still loosing 500k (for the sake of this community I hope nobody actually things this is not a lot of money) is huge and I think they will have to make cuts to survive without it (maybe loosing the lol teams?). Still given that they left esf I'd imagine kespa will help them out with finding new sponsors anyways. This deal was huge as teams had been asking LG to sponsor them for over a decade now. And then IM got the deal, something even kespa teams weren't able to get at the peak of brood war. They already have been wearing the sponsorship for a year now without getting paid, i doubt IM actualy needs to "cut" all the sudden and IM would be stupid to cut there "LoL" team and focus only on Sc2. The big money in Korea atm is in League. That would be so stupid. | ||
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Iksf
United Kingdom444 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On October 25 2013 21:08 Lysanias wrote: They already have been wearing the sponsorship for a year now without getting paid, i doubt IM actualy needs to "cut" all the sudden and IM would be stupid to cut there "LoL" team and focus only on Sc2. The big money in Korea atm is in League. That would be so stupid. That is correct. The more financial sound decision would be to cut off their SC2 teams rather than LoL. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On October 25 2013 02:00 aeligos wrote: Apple Inc. needs to step in and provide some sponsorship. Your like the 2nd person who said that or was that you as well? Look, being major sponsor for a pro team just isn't very appealing at the moment. Even with KeSPA's exposure it's still very hard for them to find major players to step up and finance an actual team. The return on investment just isn't there. On a side note, I'm amazed at how much free advertising teams like EG get after reading today's paper. The otter knows too many people. | ||
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PonceDeLEGABE
United States117 Posts
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On October 26 2013 00:02 StarStruck wrote: Your like the 2nd person who said that or was that you as well? Look, being major sponsor for a pro team just isn't very appealing at the moment. Even with KeSPA's exposure it's still very hard for them to find major players to step up and finance an actual team. The return on investment just isn't there. On a side note, I'm amazed at how much free advertising teams like EG get after reading today's paper. The otter knows too many people. no, he knows how to do his job | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On October 24 2013 02:20 lolfail9001 wrote: Dammit, that sucks. I hope IM kept old uniform :D. Also, it's me or 500k $ per year is not really much? Especially considering that part of it (and probably largest one) went to LoL team. I imagine rent of their team house alone would probably eat 1/3+ of that sum :O You want a company to pay out a million dollars to an eSports team in a single year or what? lol.. $500k is a good amount of money and is definitely going to hurt IM. Their team house I'm sure didn't cost $156k per year to RENT lol. Actually I'm sure they could BUY a pretty nice house with that 1/3 of the sponsorship money. Pretty crazy though, I guess I'll just never buy a LG again.... Time to buy Samsung!! XD jk, but I did buy LG's top of the line TV and it's pretty garbage compared to most other top of the line TV's. Definitely not buying LG anymore, but only because of quality. And a little bit, I guess, because they skimped out on IM. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On October 26 2013 00:02 StarStruck wrote: Your like the 2nd person who said that or was that you as well? Look, being major sponsor for a pro team just isn't very appealing at the moment. Even with KeSPA's exposure it's still very hard for them to find major players to step up and finance an actual team. The return on investment just isn't there. On a side note, I'm amazed at how much free advertising teams like EG get after reading today's paper. The otter knows too many people. Yawn... I am 100% talking out of my ass right now, but I'm pretty positive that LG was highly benefited from their eSports sponsorships. I'm also pretty sure that they made a mistake, or let an ignorant person convince a higher up that they should use the money elsewhere, and will end up regretting their decision even more than they already do (I'm sure they do, at least a little bit). Like the guy before me said though, the guys at EG do their job. It is hard, I worked in eSports for a long time and worked towards getting sponsors a part of that time. It's extremely difficult when you're a small name with only a medium sized contact list, but it was doable, even when eSports outside of Korea was garbage. People on these pro teams won't/don't have much trouble with it these days. So long as they do what they need to do, I see IM getting more sponsorship here pretty soon. Edit: sorry for double post ^^' | ||
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Rowa
Belgium962 Posts
The culprit is the amount of viewers for sc2/lol and the fact that for an investissment of 500k $ they coud fund a whole ad campaign that will be viewed by millions.. I guess Numbers > PR for them. | ||
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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B_Type13X2
Canada122 Posts
On October 27 2013 06:50 Rowa wrote: + Show Spoiler + The culprit is the amount of viewers for sc2/lol and the fact that for an investment of 500k $ they could fund a whole ad campaign that will be viewed by millions.. I guess Numbers > PR for them. You damn rights it does. They'll get more positive PR by sponsoring games like LoL then they will negative PR by axing SCII. They are a business and this isn't charity. | ||
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