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Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
October 24 2013 13:28 GMT
#161
Sigh, really sad for IM. I was hoping to see the rise of the big team but looks like everything is going downhill and it won't improve anytime soon. I was seriously considering getting an LG tv but screw that now, Samsung it is.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 24 2013 14:30 GMT
#162
While it sucks that they lost the sponsorship, it sounds like LG was kinda shady to the team towards the end.

At least MVP is now IMMVP again instead of LG-IMMVP
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 24 2013 14:34 GMT
#163
It rather suprises me people think 470k in dollars is alot of money to sponsor your team an entire year.
Salaries of players like MVP, Nestea, LosirA alone will eat up alot of that money not even to mention the Coaching staff or the cook/cleaner, then there is the housing rent + electric/water, food, transport local + international etc etc.

It's easy to think a player that goes to a team house without having a salary = FREE !
But in reality take a person in your house and supply him/her with there needs, and you'd be suprised how expensive that is.


I honestly expected they got more from LG on a year basis, but perhaps that's because i compared it more to BW.
Ayway i do hope IM finds another big sponsor, though the chances atm seem slim.
aeligos
Profile Joined January 2013
United States172 Posts
October 24 2013 17:00 GMT
#164
Apple Inc. needs to step in and provide some sponsorship.
libera te tvtemet ex inferis A.'.A.'.
B_Type13X2
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada122 Posts
October 25 2013 07:21 GMT
#165
I am going to say something that is going to make me incredibly unpopular around here. Esports is not Starcraft 2; and an exodus of sponsors from SC2 does not mean E-sports is dieing if they go on to sponsor other games like LOL. SC2 is not a money making enterprise look at what TB says about Axiom its his passion project. For most sponsors breaking even on your investment is likely as good as it gets. I am guilty myself of saying things like _____ has so much money they should do more _____. I work for a major mining corporation we build the biggest shovels in the world; our stock has gone up in value the pasty 6 months and yet we've closed and laid off over 8500 employee's. Looking at that on the surface its easy to question why it is we are laying people off while our stock goes up. The answer is we are cutting the fat; divisions of our industry that are not making a profit or atleast breaking even get closed down.

What the hell does that have to do with SC2 and E-sports? Well LG might have been breaking even with IM when SC2 was the biggest thing in E-sports but now that it is declining or atleast isn't the biggest thing on the block it would be hard to argue from a value standpoint that continuing to sponsor the team is worth it. You can boycott them and be as vehemently toxic towards them as you want but all that does is re-enforce to them that leaving this scene was the right thing to do for them from a financial standpoint and from an image standpoint. I mean who wants to put money into a scene when the response is generally unenthusiastic to outright hostile. Further I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard themselves tones down WCS in the next few seasons because the monetary gain does not meet with projected profits so the budget has to be scaled back to reflect this. In layman's terms breaking even or barely showing a profit is not a winning business model so somethings will have to be cut back.
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j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 10:18:03
October 25 2013 09:57 GMT
#166
to me this is kinda big news... i still remember how tastosis did stress out how huge this was.
also on the first few pages i read comments like "$500k? that doesn't sound much" an i can only facepalm to statements like that...
considering how im was doing well before the sponsorship, i can only hope this will not hurt their team as a whole- even though i can imagine that now a huge amount is missing in comparison.
but then again im was fine w/o lg in the golden days of sc2...

*edit* im's lol team is currently playing on ogn champions winter. they still have their regular jerseys with lg as sponsor
im vs kt champions winter 2013
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3686 Posts
October 25 2013 10:19 GMT
#167
On October 25 2013 18:57 j1nzo wrote:
to me this is kinda big news... i still remember how tastosis did stress out how huge this was.
also on the first few pages i read comments like "$500k? that doesn't sound much" an i can only facepalm to statements like that...
considering how im was doing well before the sponsorship, i can only hope this will not hurt their team as a whole- even though i can imagine that now a huge amount is missing in comparison.
but then again im was fine w/o lg in the golden days of sc2...


Well given that they gained like 10 sponsorships since the LG deal started I'd imagine they will continue to be able to operate. Still loosing 500k (for the sake of this community I hope nobody actually things this is not a lot of money) is huge and I think they will have to make cuts to survive without it (maybe loosing the lol teams?). Still given that they left esf I'd imagine kespa will help them out with finding new sponsors anyways.

This deal was huge as teams had been asking LG to sponsor them for over a decade now. And then IM got the deal, something even kespa teams weren't able to get at the peak of brood war.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#168
On October 25 2013 19:19 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 18:57 j1nzo wrote:
to me this is kinda big news... i still remember how tastosis did stress out how huge this was.
also on the first few pages i read comments like "$500k? that doesn't sound much" an i can only facepalm to statements like that...
considering how im was doing well before the sponsorship, i can only hope this will not hurt their team as a whole- even though i can imagine that now a huge amount is missing in comparison.
but then again im was fine w/o lg in the golden days of sc2...


Well given that they gained like 10 sponsorships since the LG deal started I'd imagine they will continue to be able to operate. Still loosing 500k (for the sake of this community I hope nobody actually things this is not a lot of money) is huge and I think they will have to make cuts to survive without it (maybe loosing the lol teams?). Still given that they left esf I'd imagine kespa will help them out with finding new sponsors anyways.

This deal was huge as teams had been asking LG to sponsor them for over a decade now. And then IM got the deal, something even kespa teams weren't able to get at the peak of brood war.


They already have been wearing the sponsorship for a year now without getting paid, i doubt IM actualy needs to "cut" all the sudden and IM would be stupid to cut there "LoL" team and focus only on Sc2. The big money in Korea atm is in League. That would be so stupid.
Iksf
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom444 Posts
October 25 2013 14:57 GMT
#169
Azubu need to launder more money into our scene ^_^
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 25 2013 15:02 GMT
#170
On October 25 2013 21:08 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 19:19 Lorch wrote:
On October 25 2013 18:57 j1nzo wrote:
to me this is kinda big news... i still remember how tastosis did stress out how huge this was.
also on the first few pages i read comments like "$500k? that doesn't sound much" an i can only facepalm to statements like that...
considering how im was doing well before the sponsorship, i can only hope this will not hurt their team as a whole- even though i can imagine that now a huge amount is missing in comparison.
but then again im was fine w/o lg in the golden days of sc2...


Well given that they gained like 10 sponsorships since the LG deal started I'd imagine they will continue to be able to operate. Still loosing 500k (for the sake of this community I hope nobody actually things this is not a lot of money) is huge and I think they will have to make cuts to survive without it (maybe loosing the lol teams?). Still given that they left esf I'd imagine kespa will help them out with finding new sponsors anyways.

This deal was huge as teams had been asking LG to sponsor them for over a decade now. And then IM got the deal, something even kespa teams weren't able to get at the peak of brood war.


They already have been wearing the sponsorship for a year now without getting paid, i doubt IM actualy needs to "cut" all the sudden and IM would be stupid to cut there "LoL" team and focus only on Sc2. The big money in Korea atm is in League. That would be so stupid.


That is correct.
The more financial sound decision would be to cut off their SC2 teams rather than LoL.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 15:05:00
October 25 2013 15:02 GMT
#171
On October 25 2013 02:00 aeligos wrote:
Apple Inc. needs to step in and provide some sponsorship.


Your like the 2nd person who said that or was that you as well? Look, being major sponsor for a pro team just isn't very appealing at the moment. Even with KeSPA's exposure it's still very hard for them to find major players to step up and finance an actual team. The return on investment just isn't there. On a side note, I'm amazed at how much free advertising teams like EG get after reading today's paper. The otter knows too many people.
PonceDeLEGABE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States117 Posts
October 25 2013 18:30 GMT
#172
Ah well guess its official now hope this doesn't change the outlook of the team of anyway or form. Keep moving forward IM.
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
October 25 2013 22:53 GMT
#173
Arg that means IM isnt going to be through some rought times x.x
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 26 2013 06:07 GMT
#174
As sad as this is, I'm fairly hopeful of IM finding another big sponsor. Even with the shape sc2 is in atm, I think if any coach can find another big name sponsor, it's Coach Kang. Especially if they're to receive any help from KeSPA.
Long live the King of Wings
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 26 2013 06:20 GMT
#175
On October 26 2013 00:02 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 02:00 aeligos wrote:
Apple Inc. needs to step in and provide some sponsorship.


Your like the 2nd person who said that or was that you as well? Look, being major sponsor for a pro team just isn't very appealing at the moment. Even with KeSPA's exposure it's still very hard for them to find major players to step up and finance an actual team. The return on investment just isn't there. On a side note, I'm amazed at how much free advertising teams like EG get after reading today's paper. The otter knows too many people.

no, he knows how to do his job
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Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
October 26 2013 17:41 GMT
#176
On October 24 2013 02:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Dammit, that sucks. I hope IM kept old uniform :D.
Also, it's me or 500k $ per year is not really much? Especially considering that part of it (and probably largest one) went to LoL team. I imagine rent of their team house alone would probably eat 1/3+ of that sum :O

You want a company to pay out a million dollars to an eSports team in a single year or what? lol..
$500k is a good amount of money and is definitely going to hurt IM. Their team house I'm sure didn't cost $156k per year to RENT lol. Actually I'm sure they could BUY a pretty nice house with that 1/3 of the sponsorship money.



Pretty crazy though, I guess I'll just never buy a LG again.... Time to buy Samsung!!
XD jk, but I did buy LG's top of the line TV and it's pretty garbage compared to most other top of the line TV's. Definitely not buying LG anymore, but only because of quality. And a little bit, I guess, because they skimped out on IM.
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Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 17:49:51
October 26 2013 17:49 GMT
#177
On October 26 2013 00:02 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 02:00 aeligos wrote:
Apple Inc. needs to step in and provide some sponsorship.


Your like the 2nd person who said that or was that you as well? Look, being major sponsor for a pro team just isn't very appealing at the moment. Even with KeSPA's exposure it's still very hard for them to find major players to step up and finance an actual team. The return on investment just isn't there. On a side note, I'm amazed at how much free advertising teams like EG get after reading today's paper. The otter knows too many people.

Yawn... I am 100% talking out of my ass right now, but I'm pretty positive that LG was highly benefited from their eSports sponsorships. I'm also pretty sure that they made a mistake, or let an ignorant person convince a higher up that they should use the money elsewhere, and will end up regretting their decision even more than they already do (I'm sure they do, at least a little bit).

Like the guy before me said though, the guys at EG do their job. It is hard, I worked in eSports for a long time and worked towards getting sponsors a part of that time. It's extremely difficult when you're a small name with only a medium sized contact list, but it was doable, even when eSports outside of Korea was garbage.
People on these pro teams won't/don't have much trouble with it these days. So long as they do what they need to do, I see IM getting more sponsorship here pretty soon.

Edit: sorry for double post ^^'
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Rowa
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium962 Posts
October 26 2013 21:50 GMT
#178
+ Show Spoiler +
The culprit is the amount of viewers for sc2/lol and the fact that for an investissment of 500k $ they coud fund a whole ad campaign that will be viewed by millions..


I guess Numbers > PR for them.
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fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
October 26 2013 22:22 GMT
#179
wow...I wonder if they'll get by without LG's support? :O
I'm terranfying
B_Type13X2
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada122 Posts
October 27 2013 23:03 GMT
#180
On October 27 2013 06:50 Rowa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The culprit is the amount of viewers for sc2/lol and the fact that for an investment of 500k $ they could fund a whole ad campaign that will be viewed by millions..


I guess Numbers > PR for them.


You damn rights it does. They'll get more positive PR by sponsoring games like LoL then they will negative PR by axing SCII. They are a business and this isn't charity.
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