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It has been brought to our attention that there is a discrepancy between the official rules and those in the OP. The deadline for submissions is Thursday, Oct 31 6:59am GMT (GMT+00:00) as stated in the official rules. The OP has been updated to reflect this.
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
October 25 2013 21:59 GMT
#201
On October 25 2013 23:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
put your money where your mouth is Catz


bitch, is this a challenge?
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
MarcusRife
Profile Joined March 2011
343 Posts
October 25 2013 22:03 GMT
#202
On October 26 2013 06:59 ROOTCatZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 23:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
put your money where your mouth is Catz


bitch, is this a challenge?


Yes the services of people who know how to use the map editor have been offered. Now team up with one of them and make a sick map.
S1eth
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria221 Posts
October 26 2013 12:18 GMT
#203
On October 25 2013 13:44 uh-oh wrote:
You know this really has me thinking: many fans/pros have a lot of ideas for map making but since the map maker is so incredibly complicated it's difficult for people unwilling to invest time into polishing everything to actually publish a completed map. What if blizzard offers some sort of simplified map editor, so we can make simple maps with great ideas, then hand the maps over to blizzard/pro mapmakers to be polished?


Have you ever tried the map editor? It's not complicated at all. Think of it like a fancy MSPaint. Set your map size, click on the cliff tool and start drawing.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
October 26 2013 13:30 GMT
#204
Nice initiative! Looking forward to seeing all the new entries. Sweet prizes this time, I must say!
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
October 27 2013 06:03 GMT
#205
On October 26 2013 21:18 S1eth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 13:44 uh-oh wrote:
You know this really has me thinking: many fans/pros have a lot of ideas for map making but since the map maker is so incredibly complicated it's difficult for people unwilling to invest time into polishing everything to actually publish a completed map. What if blizzard offers some sort of simplified map editor, so we can make simple maps with great ideas, then hand the maps over to blizzard/pro mapmakers to be polished?


Have you ever tried the map editor? It's not complicated at all. Think of it like a fancy MSPaint. Set your map size, click on the cliff tool and start drawing.

Well, as with MSpaint, knowing how the tools work is one thing, using them to create a masterpiece is something else altogether. Though I think Photoshop makes a better comparison than paint, in terms of complexity. Accessible, but there are still things to master and explore. And then you get to worry about creating your magnum opus.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
October 27 2013 15:24 GMT
#206
By the way, this isn't the only awesome thing Red Bull does. They write up a lot of eSports news coverage as well: http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/disciplines/1331591869506/starcraft-ii
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 16:36:24
October 27 2013 16:36 GMT
#207
On October 26 2013 03:15 MarcusRife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 23:04 Qikz wrote:
I really hope this isn't going to be a map contest where the most standard maps win. I really hope the judges actually pick the maps that push the limits of the game and are genuinly interesting this time compared to the ones that shouldn't really have won the TLMC. Please pick the interesting maps judges, the game actually needs something like this to spice it up and maybe show blizzard that non standard maps could work for ladder.

GLHF to all the participants, I tried the editor but couldnt get my head around it :p


The judges did a fine job during the last TLMC. They picked the best maps for the most part. There were maps that were very non-standard that made it as the finalists. The issue is that there were also maps that skewed more standard and the public vote always goes toward the standard maps.

If the judges are interested in pushing for non-standard maps then they need to only let non-standard make it among the finalists. This is problematic though because the judging process is democratic and there is also the question about should they allow an inferior map to make it among the finalists simply because it is non-standard in lieu of a superior standard map.

Or future map contests could do away with the public vote.



Basically this. We judges picked a majority of non-standard maps but the 3 most conventional maps made it to the top in the public poll. I'm not saying Frost is boring or bad, but Yeonsu (ESPECIALLY without the islands now) and Ravage are very bland.

The public poll clearly favors maps that offend the least amount of people and it doesn't give you diverse results. I mean it's totally acceptable if among the top 3 there was one really good standard map and then there's other maps that really do different things. But nope, the public poll doesn't give diverse results, doesn't give results I could agree with and I hate it.

Koreans since forever (BW) pick maps without listening to "the public opinion" and doing well, so is Blizzard pretty much. The western mapmakers are the only ones depending on a shitty poll and thus have a hard time to really improve map pools and make them more interesting/diverse.

I hereby once again beg TL to at least go back to TLMC 1 system with half public poll, half judges.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 16:42:48
October 27 2013 16:42 GMT
#208
Tal'Darim Skylands is quite cool Sidian

edit: Oops forgot I posted sth in this topic before lol
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
SiskosGoatee
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Albania1482 Posts
October 27 2013 20:05 GMT
#209
Gonna submit these I guess:

The rushiest rushmap outside of bloodbath:
[image loading]

They're never going to use a rushmap, but whatever.

The original 2-in-1 map, made about a year ago:
[image loading]
WCS Apartheid cometh, all hail the casual audience, death to merit and hard work.
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
October 27 2013 20:23 GMT
#210
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GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
October 27 2013 23:05 GMT
#211
On October 28 2013 05:05 SiskosGoatee wrote:
The original 2-in-1 map, made about a year ago:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Pretty sure there are older 2-in-1 maps, Damage, Inc. and Yuma come to mind.

And Red Bull does stimulate the metabolism, apparently, so I guess... the takeaway is... Red Bull was originally made for Zerglings? Idk where I was going with that.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
October 27 2013 23:44 GMT
#212
On October 26 2013 06:59 ROOTCatZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 23:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
put your money where your mouth is Catz


bitch, is this a challenge?
hes saying you should ask for more donations
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 23:48:04
October 27 2013 23:46 GMT
#213
It's a good time for you guys to experiment more with maps. I give you 5 of my special maps i made a long time ago. Feel free to use it in any way you want. I don't need credits or compensation or whatever.

Please, i beg you all, use bridges and tight chokes.
+ Show Spoiler +

S Bridges2
[image loading]

Outbreaker234
[image loading]

spaghetti2
[image loading]

ZoneControl18_12345
[image loading]

twoparts
[image loading]

4p closeairnat345
[image loading]


DL link for these maps
Note: all the maps have WoL dependencies. I have no idea what you will need to do to use HotS dependencies.
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 11:51:59
October 27 2013 23:55 GMT
#214
On October 28 2013 08:05 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 05:05 SiskosGoatee wrote:

Pretty sure there are older 2-in-1 maps, Damage, Inc. and Yuma come to mind.

And Red Bull does stimulate the metabolism, apparently, so I guess... the takeaway is... Red Bull was originally made for Zerglings? Idk where I was going with that.


Their slogan is “Red Bull gives you wings”, so maybe zerglings down a can of energy drink when the Metabolic Boost upgrade completes.
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
October 28 2013 11:58 GMT
#215
On October 26 2013 06:59 ROOTCatZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 23:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
put your money where your mouth is Catz


bitch, is this a challenge?


Oh man, it's on!
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
October 28 2013 11:59 GMT
#216
On October 28 2013 00:24 LockeTazeline wrote:
By the way, this isn't the only awesome thing Red Bull does. They write up a lot of eSports news coverage as well: http://www.redbull.com/us/en/esports/disciplines/1331591869506/starcraft-ii


Thanks, Red Bull eSports rep
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
VieuxSinge
Profile Joined February 2011
France231 Posts
October 28 2013 12:07 GMT
#217
On October 26 2013 04:19 SidianTheBard wrote:
Decided to tweak up my Tal'Darim Skylands map a bit as well as remake the top half of Habitation Station to add some more dynamic gameplay to it. Submitting now because why not. GL to all!



Tal'Darim Skylands
1v1

[image loading]

Sexy Pictures:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

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[image loading]


Habitation Station
1v1

[image loading]

Sexy Pictures:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]




Man those maps are beautiful. I would love to play on these...
You are a pro!
Another clue to my existence.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 12:23:45
October 28 2013 12:23 GMT
#218
This is great and I have to say I am very pleased that they are using travel distances from main to main and natural to natural as guidelines now!
I have always done this for checking map make-up and advocated the use of it in my occasional posts in threads like these!
I also think workers are the best test units just because of scouting, obviously, although it's also more convenient due to starting with them. :D

Maps with more than 2 starting positions that are not perfectly symmetrical might have multiple different travel distances, so people will need to list all!
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
October 28 2013 15:31 GMT
#219
Ok, my map is ready but where can I upload it to fill the "Your maps download link" condition ?
rly ?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 28 2013 16:10 GMT
#220
On October 29 2013 00:31 algue wrote:
Ok, my map is ready but where can I upload it to fill the "Your maps download link" condition ?

mediafire is a good place to do that
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