EPTWoongjin Releases 6 Core Players - Page 10
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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On October 01 2013 23:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Yes this is true. They expected Korean BW fans to follow their heroes and favorite teams after the switch, as well as to gain momentum, and expand its fanbase beyond what it was at the end of KeSPA BW. Not only was there no momentum, you can safely the KeSPA fanbase shrank. It is hard to say whether anyone is at fault. Those are some difficult things to predict and hindsight is easy. Nonetheless it is pretty clear that the Korean professional scene must shrink further until things are balanced out again. SC2 itself probably isn't doing any worse at all, but since it also didn't grow is exactly why there is too large of a professional fundation in Korea to be supported by it. I don't think it is even possible to switch to a new game and keeping the status quo at the same time (plus gaining new fans). Fans of the old games will feel alienated, old heroes will fall which will upset their fans, new heroes will rise. Somebody clearly had unreal expectations how everything will turn out. Only time will tell what will come out of it.  | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
On October 01 2013 19:27 Glioburd wrote: Oh wow I wish ZerO and Free back on BW. Exactly this. | ||
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GTPGlitch
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VArsovskiSC
Macedonia563 Posts
About the Korean faction though - actually - I think that the Korean scene shouldn't shrink, but instead it should get another Prime Tournament like the Dreamhack for EU currently is, and suddenly we might see some more of the Korean-region Koreans have chances in WCS from the actual Korean region, while leaving some space for the foreigners that haven't yet proven as good to have more chances overall.. While speaking of this I also hope that there will be more and better representatives (especially Terran) from the foreigners as well.. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:22 supernovamaniac wrote: From fomos: Woongjin's secretary commented that it will be hard for us to participate in Proleague, implying that they might not participate in the upcoming season. GSTL it is. Soul Stars fighting! | ||
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illidanx
United States973 Posts
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:35 VArsovskiSC wrote: OMG, they basically disbanded every single proleague player beside sOs and Soulkey.. IDK if those "nonames" are as good to support such a success though.. I presume they are younger players too, so probably investing into new youth squad, and have some doubts whether this isn't triggered by financial problems behind, which certainly is a matter of concern for the scene overall.. About the Korean faction though - actually - I think that the Korean scene shouldn't shrink, but instead it should get another Prime Tournament like the Dreamhack for EU currently is, and suddenly we might see some more of the Korean-region Koreans have chances in WCS from the actual Korean region, while leaving some space for the foreigners that haven't yet proven as good to have more chances overall.. While speaking of this I also hope that there will be more and better representatives (especially Terran) from the foreigners as well.. Prima tournaments don't exist because there are too many professional players.. How do you get another prime tournament if the market isn't there? | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Yes this is true. They expected Korean BW fans to follow their heroes and favorite teams after the switch, as well as to gain momentum, and expand its fanbase beyond what it was at the end of KeSPA BW. Not only was there no momentum, you can safely the KeSPA fanbase shrank. It is hard to say whether anyone is at fault. Those are some difficult things to predict and hindsight is easy. Nonetheless it is pretty clear that the Korean professional scene must shrink further until things are balanced out again. SC2 itself probably isn't doing any worse at all, but since it also didn't grow is exactly why there is too large of a professional fundation in Korea to be supported by it. Players losing their jobs, or franchises with a long history disappearing, is plenty to be sad about though. Losing corporate teams, a model that made BW what it was, definitely hurts the scene for me. I would value them over any individual-run gaming clubs these days. It's like the most professional thing about the socalled esport | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Does anyone know when the SPL will start? | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:35 VArsovskiSC wrote: OMG, they basically disbanded every single proleague player beside sOs and Soulkey.. IDK if those "nonames" are as good to support such a success though.. I presume they are younger players too, so probably investing into new youth squad, and have some doubts whether this isn't triggered by financial problems behind, which certainly is a matter of concern for the scene overall.. About the Korean faction though - actually - I think that the Korean scene shouldn't shrink, but instead it should get another Prime Tournament like the Dreamhack for EU currently is, and suddenly we might see some more of the Korean-region Koreans have chances in WCS from the actual Korean region, while leaving some space for the foreigners that haven't yet proven as good to have more chances overall.. While speaking of this I also hope that there will be more and better representatives (especially Terran) from the foreigners as well.. Impossible. WJ dropped their players for the same reason such a massive amount of Korean players have joined foreign teams. It's been obvious for a long time that Korea did not have the means to support the massive SC2 scene they had. It's going to keep shrinking, but that could be something great. Depending on the cooperation between GOM and KeSPA, this could allow Korea to build a massively successful infrastructure and help skyrocket the professional scene to stability. Or They could keep down the path they are going and accidentally screw over the pros. Either way, I think things will get much better before 2015, or at least change for January will be announced before 2015. That's my opinion. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote: Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams. It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era. | ||
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illusiongamer
Mexico377 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:22 supernovamaniac wrote: From fomos: Woongjin's secretary commented that it will be hard for us to participate in Proleague, implying that they might not participate in the upcoming season. SNM where do you get all this information?: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427549 at this point, I will call you the guru of the SC2 Korean scene | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
SNM where do you get all this information?: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427549 at this point, I will call you the guru of the SC2 Korean scene Please. don't give him that much attention. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:55 Zenbrez wrote: Please. don't give him that much attention. Chill. He's just relaying information from the koreaners like other translators do. | ||
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Homework
United States283 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:45 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Prima tournaments don't exist because there are too many professional players.. How do you get another prime tournament if the market isn't there? this lines up with my feelings | ||
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saddaromma
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