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Woongjin Releases 6 Core Players - Page 11

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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 01 2013 15:06 GMT
#201
Wait what...?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
October 01 2013 15:06 GMT
#202
On October 01 2013 23:22 supernovamaniac wrote:
From fomos:

Woongjin's secretary commented that it will be hard for us to participate in Proleague, implying that they might not participate in the upcoming season.

is this true? or another run of the mill rumors???

lets face it, sc2 will never get popular in korea...
there's no way but down...
though it will never die...
-
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
October 01 2013 15:06 GMT
#203
Zero vs Jangbi next SSL please, gogogo.
STX Fighting!
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
October 01 2013 15:15 GMT
#204
WJ without hon_sin and Zero is just another random team I don't care about. GG

On October 01 2013 23:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote:
Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams.

It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era.


It's already back, in LoL.
Everyday Girl's Day~!
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
October 01 2013 15:17 GMT
#205
Please someone pick BrAvO!
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
October 01 2013 15:21 GMT
#206
Well that sucks.
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
October 01 2013 15:22 GMT
#207
On October 01 2013 23:45 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:35 VArsovskiSC wrote:
OMG, they basically disbanded every single proleague player beside sOs and Soulkey.. IDK if those "nonames" are as good to support such a success though.. I presume they are younger players too, so probably investing into new youth squad, and have some doubts whether this isn't triggered by financial problems behind, which certainly is a matter of concern for the scene overall..

About the Korean faction though - actually - I think that the Korean scene shouldn't shrink, but instead it should get another Prime Tournament like the Dreamhack for EU currently is, and suddenly we might see some more of the Korean-region Koreans have chances in WCS from the actual Korean region, while leaving some space for the foreigners that haven't yet proven as good to have more chances overall..

While speaking of this I also hope that there will be more and better representatives (especially Terran) from the foreigners as well..

Prima tournaments don't exist because there are too many professional players.. How do you get another prime tournament if the market isn't there?



Well TBH I thought that It was we're seeing the same guys over and over again because there weren't many of them, as well as they were going for spot in the other WCS regions cause of easier competition instead of financial problems while being in Korea.. Guess you're right though
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
October 01 2013 15:22 GMT
#208
On October 02 2013 00:15 Kergy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote:
Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams.

It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era.


It's already back, in LoL.

Doesn't count, don't give 2 shits about LoL.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
October 01 2013 15:30 GMT
#209
On October 01 2013 19:22 Arco wrote:
Hope to see ZerO streaming BW/playing SSL. Guy was a major beast in BW! Would be nice to see Free and the others too.


He just beat mkp first round of code a, I highly doubt he'll go back to bw.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
October 01 2013 15:31 GMT
#210
Sad for the players, hope they're not in a difficult position. But selfishly, I so want Zero to play Broodwar again. He has a score to settle with Jangbi!
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
October 01 2013 15:32 GMT
#211
On October 02 2013 00:06 riyanme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:22 supernovamaniac wrote:
From fomos:

Woongjin's secretary commented that it will be hard for us to participate in Proleague, implying that they might not participate in the upcoming season.

is this true? or another run of the mill rumors???

lets face it, sc2 will never get popular in korea...
there's no way but down...
though it will never die...

I can't directly translate from fomos for copyright reasons.

It's on their front page.

http://fomos.co.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=135879&db=issue
ppp
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 15:37:35
October 01 2013 15:36 GMT
#212
On October 02 2013 00:22 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:15 Kergy wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote:
Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams.

It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era.


It's already back, in LoL.

Doesn't count, don't give 2 shits about LoL.


Whether you do or not doesn't change the way it is. He is right, and it counts, because this isn't about personal opinions.

Or would it be okay for me to tell you that it will never go back there because BW is long gone and SC2 doesn't count anyway?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
October 01 2013 15:40 GMT
#213
On October 02 2013 00:36 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:22 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:15 Kergy wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote:
Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams.

It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era.


It's already back, in LoL.

Doesn't count, don't give 2 shits about LoL.


Whether you do or not doesn't change the way it is. He is right, and it counts, because this isn't about personal opinions.

Or would it be okay for me to tell you that it will never go back there because BW is long gone and SC2 doesn't count anyway?


SC2 is the legacy of BW, it is the next chapter. LoL is just a display of how much people love easy shit and team games.

User was warned for this post
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 01 2013 15:44 GMT
#214
On October 02 2013 00:40 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:36 UmberBane wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:22 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:15 Kergy wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote:
Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams.

It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era.


It's already back, in LoL.

Doesn't count, don't give 2 shits about LoL.


Whether you do or not doesn't change the way it is. He is right, and it counts, because this isn't about personal opinions.

Or would it be okay for me to tell you that it will never go back there because BW is long gone and SC2 doesn't count anyway?


SC2 is the legacy of BW, it is the next chapter. LoL is just a display of how much people love easy shit and team games.


Lmao. You can say the same thing about SC2, and many people would. Opinions like that are just useless. But hey, the topic had to go there at some point, I guess it's inevitable in threads like these.

SC2 elitism is such a pointless concept.
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
October 01 2013 15:44 GMT
#215
So do they only have Soulkey now?
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
October 01 2013 15:45 GMT
#216
On October 02 2013 00:40 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:36 UmberBane wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:22 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:15 Kergy wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote:
Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams.

It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era.


It's already back, in LoL.

Doesn't count, don't give 2 shits about LoL.


Whether you do or not doesn't change the way it is. He is right, and it counts, because this isn't about personal opinions.

Or would it be okay for me to tell you that it will never go back there because BW is long gone and SC2 doesn't count anyway?


SC2 is the legacy of BW, it is the next chapter. LoL is just a display of how much people love easy shit and team games.


LoL gets KT vs SKT in front of 10k people
SC2 gets WJ vs STX (and they died a few weeks later)

guess which game is BW2
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
October 01 2013 15:45 GMT
#217
On October 02 2013 00:40 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:36 UmberBane wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:22 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:15 Kergy wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote:
Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams.

It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era.


It's already back, in LoL.

Doesn't count, don't give 2 shits about LoL.


Whether you do or not doesn't change the way it is. He is right, and it counts, because this isn't about personal opinions.

Or would it be okay for me to tell you that it will never go back there because BW is long gone and SC2 doesn't count anyway?


SC2 is the legacy of BW, it is the next chapter. LoL is just a display of how much people love easy shit and team games.


Yeah cause SC2 is so hard compared to BW right? Christ i've stopped myself from replying to these kinds of comments, but most people that write stuff like you just did act as if they were B- on Iccup in BW cause everything else compared to SC is so easy.
Jaedong & Faker
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 01 2013 15:47 GMT
#218
On October 02 2013 00:45 Kergy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:40 Lorch wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:36 UmberBane wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:22 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:15 Kergy wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 NicksonReyes wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:51 Bagration wrote:
Well, isn't that ironic. The two best performing teams of the last PL are facing the most troubles of all the Kespa teams.

It's God's way to bring back the Telecom Era.


It's already back, in LoL.

Doesn't count, don't give 2 shits about LoL.


Whether you do or not doesn't change the way it is. He is right, and it counts, because this isn't about personal opinions.

Or would it be okay for me to tell you that it will never go back there because BW is long gone and SC2 doesn't count anyway?


SC2 is the legacy of BW, it is the next chapter. LoL is just a display of how much people love easy shit and team games.


LoL gets KT vs SKT in front of 10k people
SC2 gets WJ vs STX (and they died a few weeks later)

guess which game is BW2


Ah come on let's not derail it into one of those threads. Salt too strong, I wouldn't take a opinion that was clearly written in rage so seriously right now. :I
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
October 01 2013 15:51 GMT
#219
According to fomos, the released 6 WJS players, Free, Zero, Bravo, Organ, Aria, Habin, have to find a KeSPA team in two weeks. After that they will not be able to join any KeSPA team. They can still join ESF and foreign teams or retire after that.

There are only two players left: Soulkey and sOs. This situation makes Woongjin Stars unable to participate in the next SPL. Soulkey will be supported mainly by sponsors. But sOs is still in the phase of negotiation.

One secretary at WJS: "we are unable to maintain the players' salary request. We cannot continue. This time we released 6 players and we hope they can join the teams they want."

WJS will not disband directly. Coach Lee will lead the team with Soulkey, sOs, and 1-2 trainees.


Source: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=379176
Korean source: http://fomos.co.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=135879&db=issue
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 01 2013 15:52 GMT
#220
Then why did kespa bother to transition to sc2 at all? It hasn't helped them one bit. They barely supported the transition, they are now cutting and destroying teams including core players who are still in the gsl, the players seemed to have preferred bw, it had enough fans in korea to be sustained. Why? Why get peoples hopes up only to destroy the entire scene a year later? I wanted the transition to happen, but not if this is the result.
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