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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 01 2013 10:33 GMT
#101
On October 01 2013 06:30 Glioburd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 06:16 tomastaz wrote:
</3 if only sc2 was more popular in Korea </3

If only they didn't have switched on SC2 in Korea... xd


If only they wouldn't have fought the Sc2 release in Korea so badly :p

A sad interview, but atleast we get a bit of bisu playing BW before he is gone.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 01 2013 10:48 GMT
#102
it is true

he did gain weight.
WriterXiao8~~
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 10:56:25
October 01 2013 10:56 GMT
#103
What a great interview. I'm very happy that he's moved back to BW. Thank you for your translation <3.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 11:12:44
October 01 2013 11:07 GMT
#104
gg gl hf Bisu
On October 01 2013 06:03 Kare wrote:
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On October 01 2013 05:58 Hier wrote:
On October 01 2013 05:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On October 01 2013 05:11 mjuuy wrote:
Some people said that I just want more money

Isn't he asking for x money/baloons for playing y minute on afreeca?

actually he said stop send me balloons guys !

Balloons?


One donation "balloon" is 7 cents, so his money donations show up as balloons on the afreeca stream

How do I give Bisu balloons then? I figure he deserves some money for having entertained me the last 6 years with his fantastic play.

On October 01 2013 19:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Bisu so sincere T_T

I would like so much if BW starts to sprout again, from barren earth.
The shiny, artificial, fabricated SC2 collapses, and BW comes to life.

Well, even if it does... kaboom lawsuit.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
October 01 2013 14:03 GMT
#105
we will never ever get to see a future big bw tourney because blizzard will do its best to kill it....
lawsuits... fees.. and all other tactics to undermine bw's revival...
-
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
October 01 2013 16:23 GMT
#106
On October 01 2013 23:03 riyanme wrote:
we will never ever get to see a future big bw tourney because blizzard will do its best to kill it....
lawsuits... fees.. and all other tactics to undermine bw's revival...

Even if that happened the backslash would be too big. It would be looking like Blizzard would be afraid of its own 15yo product becoming a competition to their new biggest Esports title. A truly bad image. Thats why i don't believe Blizzard will do anything proactive to stop it. They did a lot to stop it as a side effect of making the deal with Kespa and OGN.

But when it comes to Sonic, Blizzard shouldn't be able to jack shit. Simply too much backslash, corporations don't meddle with such stuff. Blizzard stopping the only BW tournament in Korea? WoW that would be truly a headliner in Korea.
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 01 2013 16:24 GMT
#107
Bisu was just confirmed for SSL9.
Blizzard can't fight Bisu LOL.
En Taro Violet
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
October 01 2013 16:30 GMT
#108
It´s sad that Bisu could never make a splash in SC2. Some transitioned well, others didn´t, part of the process, I guess. Though it sucks to lose him, it´s probably for the best. Gogo Bisuuuuuu!!!!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10138 Posts
October 01 2013 17:13 GMT
#109
On October 02 2013 01:23 DinoToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:03 riyanme wrote:
we will never ever get to see a future big bw tourney because blizzard will do its best to kill it....
lawsuits... fees.. and all other tactics to undermine bw's revival...

Even if that happened the backslash would be too big. It would be looking like Blizzard would be afraid of its own 15yo product becoming a competition to their new biggest Esports title. A truly bad image. Thats why i don't believe Blizzard will do anything proactive to stop it. They did a lot to stop it as a side effect of making the deal with Kespa and OGN.

But when it comes to Sonic, Blizzard shouldn't be able to jack shit. Simply too much backslash, corporations don't meddle with such stuff. Blizzard stopping the only BW tournament in Korea? WoW that would be truly a headliner in Korea.

They will still charge fees, but that's about it, and I think they are well within their rights to do so. Nothing else should be coming up.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 01 2013 17:49 GMT
#110
Thanks for the translation. Bisu is an amazing personality.
The heart's eternal vow
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 01 2013 18:01 GMT
#111
1.5k currently watching Bisu which is close to DRG's number lol. Keep in mind that they doesn't have afreeca viewers which is likely several thousands at least. He's going to participate in SSL9, exciting! :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 18:02:16
October 01 2013 18:02 GMT
#112
On October 02 2013 01:24 Stratos wrote:
Bisu was just confirmed for SSL9.
Blizzard can't fight Bisu LOL.


Are you a firm believer in the Church of BSports? I know I am.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
October 01 2013 18:05 GMT
#113
I think iam glad bisu didnt succeed in sc2.
I mean, its more fun to watch bw in his fpv than proplay in sc2 even tho i have played/watched bw for 10~ years.
shivver
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 21:02:04
October 01 2013 20:55 GMT
#114
On October 01 2013 13:09 Sub40APM wrote:
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On October 01 2013 12:59 Jealous wrote:
On stream he said he makes more money playing Afreeca than he would have playing SC2, LOL. That just shows where the money and fanbase lies, considering the fanbase is pretty much directly supporting Afreeca players. GG.

it makes sense, he was pretty terrible at SC2. He admits it as much in the interview too, but the BW elitists chose to ignore that part of his interview and focus on the "SCII sucks" train. He felt badly being bad at the game and went back to the one where he was better.
Show nested quote +
“I have a burden to prove myself. Losing games gives me even more of these burdens. I couldn't see the hope of improvement and I couldn't get rid of this burden. So, I retired.



Hey man whatever makes you feel better about your dying game

On October 01 2013 16:35 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 16:13 KeksX wrote:
While I understand his decision, I feel a it's a little bit unfair to his foreigner fans. There are a ton of western/foriegners that loved Bisu and would've gone to see him play - but he was only in Korea and couldn't see it. (Don't get me wrong, I completely respect him, I just wanted to make this point!)

I don't think The Tyrant is going to retire soon, and I think Flash feels the same. Because they saw it. They saw how passionate people are about SC2, and how passionate they are for those players. When Jaedong first played SC2, I did not care that he was not as good as everyone else and just got nerdchills because it's him and he tried to live on the legacy. And now looking at it, it's like BW all over again. Just not Courage, but regular tournaments. And I'm 100% confident that one day he will be the Jaedong we all know again.
Flash, on the other hand, might be different. I think his mindset is still too similar to Bisu's.

Before SC2 was released, BW was actually not as popular as we wanted it to be. MBC Game closing and everything, BW was still on the decline even when SC2 wasn't doing well at all. One could argue that this was because of the SC2 release, but I think in the end I think we can agree to this:

Most fans moved on, either to other games(LoL) or to the "next Starcraft", even though it might not be a "real" Starcraft, or whatever your opinion is.

A programer can now decide to come with us, or leave. Most stayed, some left. This is the way things go in life, and even though it's sad to see the people go, especially when it's a player like Bisu, I look forward to the future we have with our current players. I don't want to make a point here that BW is dead, it's not. Not by a long shot. But when we talk about the eSports scene BW is just not as relevant as we would like it to be(And I am a BW fan, too.). So it kinda feels like "leaving" when players go back to BW.

SC2 is still new compared to what we had in BW. We might not have an MBC Game again, we might not have the old Pro League, but we will definitely have the next best thing!



sigh at the delirium in the sc2 forums..


^^

On October 02 2013 01:24 Stratos wrote:
Bisu was just confirmed for SSL9.
Blizzard can't fight Bisu LOL.



sc2 uninstalled, bw re-installed for me. Long live brood war

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GhostFiber
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia88 Posts
October 01 2013 23:11 GMT
#115
Now someone just needs to upgrade BW with SC2 graphics and the transformation will be complete!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 00:17:28
October 01 2013 23:25 GMT
#116
On October 02 2013 03:02 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 01:24 Stratos wrote:
Bisu was just confirmed for SSL9.
Blizzard can't fight Bisu LOL.


Are you a firm believer in the Church of BSports? I know I am.

You've converted me. I now believe in the Church of BSports.

Edit: Holy fucking typos. Probably still shocked by the BSports Revelation.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 02 2013 00:00 GMT
#117
On October 02 2013 08:25 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 03:02 StarStruck wrote:
On October 02 2013 01:24 Stratos wrote:
Bisu was just confirmed for SSL9.
Blizzard can't fight Bisu LOL.


Are you a firm believer in the Church of BSports? I know I am.

You converted me. I know believe in the Church of BSports.


BSports has died the first day it was created, by the hands of Sea, but now, BSports has risen again, according to the prophecies of the Church of BSports
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 02 2013 00:28 GMT
#118
On October 01 2013 07:41 ZenithM wrote:
They should have flown out overseas and see that they still have many foreign fans :'(
Beautiful interview, I'll keep following him on his BW stream.


He actually went to the MLG showmatch last year where he got 2nd (to Flash). I believe he was also one of the BW VIPs at Blizzcon two years ago (when they had the GSL finals). So he's seem the overseas enthusiasm for SC2.

I can understand that the home fans having a tepid response matters more to him than the foreign fans though.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 02 2013 00:39 GMT
#119
Have you guys seen how those fans greeted them at Blizzcon when GSL's final was held there with MVP playing?

In the documentary "State of Play", as Jaedong was leaving, only ONE fan showed up to take pictures and singing with him. If as it is that they don't even know who those legends are.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
October 02 2013 00:46 GMT
#120
On October 01 2013 05:11 Swiv wrote:
sadly RTS games are just not the flavor at the moment and for the past few years. so sc2 never really had a chance imho


I don't get this type of reasoning.

Back in early 2000s RTS wasn't the big thing or flavor of the month. CS/FPS was.
During the mid 2000s, Dota/TFT was the biggest thing and with that comes the Moba games that we have now.

RTS was NEVER big since the start of the global E-sport scene.

This is just dumb.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
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