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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 00:50:16
October 02 2013 00:49 GMT
#121
On October 02 2013 09:39 Xiphos wrote:
Have you guys seen how those fans greeted them at Blizzcon when GSL's final was held there with MVP playing?

In the documentary "State of Play", as Jaedong was leaving, only ONE fan showed up to take pictures and singing with him. If as it is that they don't even know who those legends are.


I remember when they first came overseas and they were swarmed by the fans and the response was overwhelming (BW days ofc -- not talking about the MLG hoopla). I never watched that documentary but that sounds rather sad for only one person to show up, but something tells me that doesn't give us the full picture. I'm sure there was a small crowd that showed up to take pictures with him as he was leaving. It probably happened elsewhere and just not for that shot. Hmph.
SsDrKosS
Profile Joined March 2013
330 Posts
October 02 2013 07:21 GMT
#122
guys! is there any custom map in sc2 that has:

bad pathing/low AI/no queue command like SC bw
all BW units
bw maps
but with HD graphic?
MikeMM
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation221 Posts
October 02 2013 07:36 GMT
#123
On October 02 2013 16:21 SsDrKosS wrote:
guys! is there any custom map in sc2 that has:

bad pathing/low AI/no queue command like SC bw
all BW units
bw maps
but with HD graphic?

There is SC2BW mod.
It has almost everything you mentioned, except bad pathing.
SsDrKosS
Profile Joined March 2013
330 Posts
October 02 2013 07:42 GMT
#124
On October 02 2013 16:36 MikeMM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 16:21 SsDrKosS wrote:
guys! is there any custom map in sc2 that has:

bad pathing/low AI/no queue command like SC bw
all BW units
bw maps
but with HD graphic?

There is SC2BW mod.
It has almost everything you mentioned, except bad pathing.

oh then I should choose protoss for reaver.
En taro REAVER!!!!
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
October 02 2013 07:43 GMT
#125
I honestly didn't have big expectations for bisu when he moved to sc2. I figured he would try it out and see how he did at it then decide if it was for him or not. He did severely hype hots for a bit and making tournament appearances energized the fan base. I guess now he wants to move on since he didn't enjoy the game that much. I wish him the best.
There's no S in KT. :P
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10138 Posts
October 03 2013 00:24 GMT
#126
On October 02 2013 16:42 SsDrKosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 16:36 MikeMM wrote:
On October 02 2013 16:21 SsDrKosS wrote:
guys! is there any custom map in sc2 that has:

bad pathing/low AI/no queue command like SC bw
all BW units
bw maps
but with HD graphic?

There is SC2BW mod.
It has almost everything you mentioned, except bad pathing.

oh then I should choose protoss for reaver.
En taro REAVER!!!!

Reavers are SUPER good in SC2:BW.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 03 2013 00:34 GMT
#127
On October 01 2013 20:07 Elroi wrote:
gg gl hf Bisu
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On October 01 2013 06:03 Kare wrote:
On October 01 2013 05:58 Hier wrote:
On October 01 2013 05:12 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On October 01 2013 05:11 mjuuy wrote:
Some people said that I just want more money

Isn't he asking for x money/baloons for playing y minute on afreeca?

actually he said stop send me balloons guys !

Balloons?


One donation "balloon" is 7 cents, so his money donations show up as balloons on the afreeca stream

How do I give Bisu balloons then? I figure he deserves some money for having entertained me the last 6 years with his fantastic play.

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On October 01 2013 19:22 niteReloaded wrote:
Bisu so sincere T_T

I would like so much if BW starts to sprout again, from barren earth.
The shiny, artificial, fabricated SC2 collapses, and BW comes to life.

Well, even if it does... kaboom lawsuit.

You can't donate without having a valid Korean credit card since other TL members tried with their credit cards and they didn't work lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 03 2013 00:43 GMT
#128
Kind of a sad interview.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
mrhobbers
Profile Joined August 2010
109 Posts
October 03 2013 00:59 GMT
#129
All these players going back to BW is really making me more interested in it. I find myself watching more BW streams than I do SC2 streams.
MaTaAeRuKaNa
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States95 Posts
October 03 2013 01:34 GMT
#130
I'd get bored too if I played BW Protoss and had to play SC2 Protoss... Bisu's talent was multitasking, SC2 Protoss doesn't really give Bisu the chance to use his talents.
Luddite wrote: Tentacle monster: Basically a sunken colony with legs, and multiple tentacles to attack with. It gets bonus damage vs. large units and Japanese school girls.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
October 03 2013 02:04 GMT
#131
There is SC2BW mod.
It has almost everything you mentioned, [b]except bad pathing[b/]


Gulph..whaaaaaat?!?!
...whouy...uuu.....liaaa
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
October 03 2013 02:20 GMT
#132
Still handsome eh.

Been watching him streaming BW, and I have to say he's not as fast as he used to be which is expected.

Hope he practices hard and tears it up in the next SSL, oh and LOLLLLL can you imagine Bisu with short hair? He's due for military service soon right?

Ahahahahaha can't wait to see Bisu with a buzz cut ahahahahahaha
Swift118
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom335 Posts
October 03 2013 02:35 GMT
#133
On October 02 2013 09:46 shaftofpleasure wrote:
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On October 01 2013 05:11 Swiv wrote:
sadly RTS games are just not the flavor at the moment and for the past few years. so sc2 never really had a chance imho


I don't get this type of reasoning.

Back in early 2000s RTS wasn't the big thing or flavor of the month. CS/FPS was.
During the mid 2000s, Dota/TFT was the biggest thing and with that comes the Moba games that we have now.

RTS was NEVER big since the start of the global E-sport scene.

This is just dumb.


RTS genre has taken a huge nosedive in recent years, anyone who has been interested in gaming for the last couple decades could tell you that. Just look at the number of RTS titles released these days, very low. Between the mid 90's - early 00's the RTS genre was super popular, Command and Conquer, Total Annihilation, Age of Empires, Starcraft, Warcraft etc were filling the genre up with titles to choose from.

Also remember that it was an RTS game (Broodwar) that really made e-sports. Before that game there was no legitimate pro gaming scene anywhere.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
October 03 2013 02:39 GMT
#134
damn </3

go own SSL
AKMU / IU
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 03 2013 02:59 GMT
#135
Thought some will like this:
On October 03 2013 03:10 larse wrote:
[image loading]

BJ Sonic: Bisu will play in the next Sonic Starleague.

:D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
October 03 2013 05:15 GMT
#136
But after SPL transitioned into SC2, the number of fans in the live events reduced to less than half in a month.

“It’s not only me. Other players felt the same. When seeing an empty venue, it is really hard to find the right sense of competition. When we see no fans, then it is meaningless to train so hard to play competitively.”

The rapid loss of fans was unexpected by many people including Bisu. Bisu thought that fans will return eventually. But one day he realized that fans truly left.

“Fans are leaving continually. What’s the meaning of me keep playing. My heart is empty. It is such a feeling of void that I have never experienced during SC1. Being a progamer can no longer make my heart pound.”


This made my heart hurt =(
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
RTSDealer
Profile Joined December 2011
286 Posts
October 03 2013 06:13 GMT
#137
This is the result of artificially forcing Starcraft 2 in the spotlight and trying to phase out BW.
But it's good news that he went back playing the game that he loves.
rtsdealer.com - I love Dota 2 and Starcraft 2
Incubus1993
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada140 Posts
October 03 2013 16:51 GMT
#138
Bahaha, maybe Blizzard will appreciate the criticism of how they ruined SC2 when progamers continually leave to play a 15 year old game again!
"I like to keep an open mind, but not so open my brains fall out."
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
October 03 2013 21:19 GMT
#139
On October 01 2013 05:08 Pirfiktshon wrote:
I would not be surprised to see a Second Coming of BW I will be in tears of joy if thats the case Because then I'll start playing BW again and going back to ladder days when I was a horrible B-


stop saying b- horrible ^^ i played alot of years to reach b- and all my friends never got over C+ xD b- was real good for a foreign
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Black0ut
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States75 Posts
October 11 2013 00:59 GMT
#140
“It’s not only me. Other players felt the same. When seeing an empty venue, it is really hard to find the right sense of competition. When we see no fans, then it is meaningless to train so hard to play competitively.”


[image loading]

=(. Watching redeye (bottom right) come out and have to host/introduce the event to that "crowd" was just sad and painful to watch. And then they brought the players out to stand on the stage and pretend like there were people to talk to.

Atleast it was just open bracket, and I know by the end around 40% of the chairs or so got taken, and there were decent stream numbers. But I can see from Bisu's perspective, to walk out to THIS, and be like "why am i even here."
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