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Bisu's first interview after his retirement - Page 4

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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-30 22:55:27
September 30 2013 22:55 GMT
#61
On October 01 2013 07:52 Entirety wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 07:13 goody153 wrote:
On October 01 2013 06:49 Nerevar wrote:
On October 01 2013 06:03 Musicus wrote:
It's sad but understandable. Seeing less and less fans and no results, it's just the right move. Happiness is most important. I think Jaedong learned to be happy with the game because he experiences a lot of love from fans at foreign events and travels a lot. So he was motivated enough and then got good results. I hope Flash and Stork get the chance to experience the same and kespa helps them out, so they see there are a lot of fans globally. Now how to get sc2 popular in Korea, that's a different matter .

I wish Bisu all the best and hope he can crush the BW leagues again!

Flash has recently been attending Dreamhack and will attend IEM soon. He said that he wants to focus on foreign tournaments in the future, so hopefully he'll do well and get impassioned by the bigger audiences that show up for those weekend-long tournaments.


he is actually not doing bad .. he is consistently getting to r16 in tournaments .. the only problem is everyone expects much from since well he is the greatest player of BW and even mediocrity from him is unacceptable


Flash certainly isn't in a good spot right now... he's certainly thirsting for more than just Ro16 finishes.

However, remember that he was an absolute beast in PL (most wins award yet again) and he even got semifinals/finals way back at MLG. He had a taste of being at the top, so I think he will not lose his motivation.

Plus Bisu never even qualified for GSL, his situation was way more dire than Flash's :D.
Although Flash doesn't seem to have the "spark" currently :/
Coffeeling
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland250 Posts
September 30 2013 22:56 GMT
#62
On October 01 2013 05:08 Pirfiktshon wrote:
I would not be surprised to see a Second Coming of BW I will be in tears of joy if thats the case Because then I'll start playing BW again and going back to ladder days when I was a horrible B-


If you like BW, play BW. Sustainable communities rise from the players. The more players a game has, the more attractive it is to others, and the more likely small events can be held, especially considering BW is LAN-capable and divorced from Battle.net, meaning no Blizzard control. I play some games with small communities, and the best you can do is to play, to talk with others about the game, teach and LAN.
Squee
Coffeeling
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Finland250 Posts
September 30 2013 22:58 GMT
#63
On October 01 2013 07:22 LaLuSh wrote:
I'm happy Bisu is happy.


This. In gaming, little is worse than playing a game you hate. This is supposed to be fun, after all.
Squee
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
September 30 2013 23:15 GMT
#64
Nice interview. Thanks for translating.
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
GoWoongjin
Profile Joined September 2013
2 Posts
September 30 2013 23:26 GMT
#65
Surprised to see that bisu is so against advancement of society. SC2 is out and he plays SC1? Didn't know he was this much of a selfish person. You learn something new every day.

User was banned for this post.
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
September 30 2013 23:35 GMT
#66
thank you very much for the translation
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
September 30 2013 23:38 GMT
#67
On October 01 2013 07:55 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 07:52 Entirety wrote:
On October 01 2013 07:13 goody153 wrote:
On October 01 2013 06:49 Nerevar wrote:
On October 01 2013 06:03 Musicus wrote:
It's sad but understandable. Seeing less and less fans and no results, it's just the right move. Happiness is most important. I think Jaedong learned to be happy with the game because he experiences a lot of love from fans at foreign events and travels a lot. So he was motivated enough and then got good results. I hope Flash and Stork get the chance to experience the same and kespa helps them out, so they see there are a lot of fans globally. Now how to get sc2 popular in Korea, that's a different matter .

I wish Bisu all the best and hope he can crush the BW leagues again!

Flash has recently been attending Dreamhack and will attend IEM soon. He said that he wants to focus on foreign tournaments in the future, so hopefully he'll do well and get impassioned by the bigger audiences that show up for those weekend-long tournaments.


he is actually not doing bad .. he is consistently getting to r16 in tournaments .. the only problem is everyone expects much from since well he is the greatest player of BW and even mediocrity from him is unacceptable


Flash certainly isn't in a good spot right now... he's certainly thirsting for more than just Ro16 finishes.

However, remember that he was an absolute beast in PL (most wins award yet again) and he even got semifinals/finals way back at MLG. He had a taste of being at the top, so I think he will not lose his motivation.

Plus Bisu never even qualified for GSL, his situation was way more dire than Flash's :D.
Although Flash doesn't seem to have the "spark" currently :/


I tink at early HOTS Flash actually did better than Jaedong, right?
Especially during the MLG he went into finals , beating Innovation & then losing to Life sad case . . .

Right now Jaedong has high WCS point.
Flash oso perform well in SPL.

He lost his spark when he lose to Bomber in GSL 2-3 months ago . And then the SPL his team did not make it, it is FLASH team. Then he went missing in bangkok 1 month, sad exit from Romania tourny, and the recent GSL . . .

His recent GSL game is fun to watch. I think some poor decision cost him the game, not really his skill. Maybe he is affected by all these recent event causing mini slump.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
September 30 2013 23:38 GMT
#68
Well I guess I'll start watching the sonic starleague if Bisu plays, he is my favorite player after all!
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
ladysman09
Profile Joined June 2013
237 Posts
September 30 2013 23:42 GMT
#69
What's with these modelesque head shots?
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
September 30 2013 23:49 GMT
#70
On October 01 2013 08:42 ladysman09 wrote:
What's with these modelesque head shots?


he's fucking beautiful.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
September 30 2013 23:56 GMT
#71
Bisu playinng BW again? I like these news very much indeed
Arzar
Profile Joined October 2011
France51 Posts
October 01 2013 00:05 GMT
#72
On October 01 2013 05:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Bisu's impression about the fanbase seems to be objectively incorrect. It's true it dropped drastically compared to BW but it then steadily improved with way larger crowds (than when it switched) for Starleague and Proleague. He made it seem like a continuous downward trend.

Really ?
I don't understand what give you that impression ?

To me it look like the audience have really drop like crazy in the last 6 month of proleague.
For example I remember in the beginning of hybrid proleague and first OSL seeing groups of fan girls in the studio, sometimes offering large amount of gift and food, like cake and candy, to their team. Doesn't happen anymore.
Also since the schedule of proleague has changed to accommodate for more LOL most of proleague match are played at SPOTTV in the middle of the week and it is sometimes really heartbreaking to see an almost completely empty audience, sometimes with like 4 or 5 people max... I can see how it can be demoralizing.

Also apparently Bisu also said on his stream something like this :

On September 28 2013 17:54 Boonbag wrote:
he said alot of stuff about sc2 and pro scene
[...]
he basically said pro team salaries got cut off to the point its more profitable to stream bw on afreeca thant play sc2 in korea

which is a really big point too.
The_Australian
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia458 Posts
October 01 2013 00:19 GMT
#73
I cant believe I used to dislike this man (After he crushed sAviOr's aura of invincibility - what can I say? I was a rabid fan).
Now I have nothing but respect for him and i'm glad he's back to doing what he loves. I wish you the best, SurgicalToss, in all your endeavours.
"Nothing should be unstoppable when you see it coming...." - Boxer
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
October 01 2013 00:19 GMT
#74
Bisu has not yet gotten used to SC1, so he will improve and let fans see his superior mechanics like before. When he gets back to certain level, he will consider to participate in Sonic Starleague.

fuck yes!
Broodwar for life!
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 01 2013 00:28 GMT
#75
Rest in peace, sweet prince. You gave the Protoss many victories and joyful memories.
Turn off the radio
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
October 01 2013 00:36 GMT
#76
So much people blame the gameplay, and the mechanics like the reason of the downfall of sc2. they are bad things between the players, but the problem in Korea is that there are not players.
the main reason IMO, is the model. BW was a game a lot cheaper to play in PC bangs back in the 1999, but then in 2010, you needed a license to play, making an easy choose any F2P game to the players, so the late "spawning feature" and the fight kespa-blizzard, bring the result of less overall players in starcraft2.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 01 2013 01:04 GMT
#77
This interview is pretty much a confirmation of what we expected. It's nice to see these guys streaming on afreeca though, and the snipealot streams are amazing.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
October 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#78
On October 01 2013 08:26 GoWoongjin wrote:
Surprised to see that bisu is so against advancement of society. SC2 is out and he plays SC1? Didn't know he was this much of a selfish person. You learn something new every day.

User was banned for this post.


What the hell...this is wrong in so many ways.

Guess what I learned to today? That people can actually say something as stupid as this.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
October 01 2013 02:10 GMT
#79
Bisu, I can't even begin to describe the happiness you brought to my little teenager heart watching you play Starcraft in the late hours of the night. Forever <3 Bisu
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
October 01 2013 02:13 GMT
#80
On October 01 2013 09:36 xuanzue wrote:
So much people blame the gameplay, and the mechanics like the reason of the downfall of sc2. they are bad things between the players, but the problem in Korea is that there are not players.
the main reason IMO, is the model. BW was a game a lot cheaper to play in PC bangs back in the 1999, but then in 2010, you needed a license to play, making an easy choose any F2P game to the players, so the late "spawning feature" and the fight kespa-blizzard, bring the result of less overall players in starcraft2.


And if they still do this sc2 won't shine still. I know few of my korean friends and about 3 ex pros try out sc2. Guess what? They quit after only 4 months. This ex semi pro shinee played and reached masters in kr server then he quit altogeter and came back to bw. Its simply this: experienced bw players will in no way play sc2 because of something you don't know that differentiates these two games. Many koreans have experienced bw, thus they won't play sc2.
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