EPT6 possible balance changes - David Kim - Page 26
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
Blizzard does exactly that = WTF BLIZZ, WHY ALL THESE RANDOM CHANGES? CLUELESS NOOBS. Honestly, these threads are getting harder and harder to read. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:25 Assirra wrote: Blizzard doesn't patch the game for a while = ZOMG BLIZZ, WHY YOU NO COOL RANDOM PATCHES LIKE DOTA AND LOL TO SHAKE UP THE METAGAME Blizzard does exactly that = WTF BLIZZ, WHY ALL THESE RANDOM CHANGES? CLUELESS NOOBS. The typical 'i am kinda SC2 player' reaction on anything Blizzard does. | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:25 Assirra wrote: Blizzard doesn't patch the game for a while = ZOMG BLIZZ, WHY YOU NO COOL RANDOM PATCHES LIKE DOTA AND LOL TO SHAKE UP THE METAGAME Blizzard does exactly that = WTF BLIZZ, WHY ALL THESE RANDOM CHANGES? CLUELESS NOOBS. Honestly, these threads are getting harder and harder to read. No you are correct. I apologise, "Yay blizz way to go, those changes would make perfect sense!". | ||
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tar
Germany991 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:19 teddyoojo wrote: need to buff random yolo coinflip for protoss, yes thats what they need yeah... the idea is that the units get more usage beyond all ins. Speed might be a bit too much but we'll see. if u can get more out of your DTs one might see more eco DT builds like they are rather common in PvP already. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
On September 24 2013 06:15 sns3rsam wrote: I actually think increasing the canal cost and decreasing worm cost would be a better idea imo I think we might be saying the same thing  What I am trying to say is not to lower the cost of the initial nydus network but the following canals / worms ! | ||
Falling
Canada11601 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:25 Assirra wrote: Blizzard doesn't patch the game for a while = ZOMG BLIZZ, WHY YOU NO COOL RANDOM PATCHES LIKE DOTA AND LOL TO SHAKE UP THE METAGAME Blizzard does exactly that = WTF BLIZZ, WHY ALL THESE RANDOM CHANGES? CLUELESS NOOBS. Honestly, these threads are getting harder and harder to read. While I do generally maintain a wait and see policy, not all patch ideas are equal even at the idea stage. | ||
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NOFX
France32 Posts
How is it possible that this buff came to mind to just a single guy in the team. I mean there is absolutely no explanation for such a buff, DT is already pretty strong and fast, it will be able to outrun overseer and stimmed bio, not to mention the scans that will become near useless to deal with them. Buffing DT should not be done without a MSC nerf. | ||
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Osiccor
Canada128 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:28 _SpiRaL_ wrote: No you are correct. I apologise, "Yay blizz way to go, those changes would make perfect sense!". I would trust actual game designers to know what they are doing more than some random angry teens on a forum. Go test the changes if you think it is stupid, they never said it was final and of course they make the changes more ridiculous at first, then begin to scale back the numbers. They always seemed to approach it this way. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:25 Assirra wrote: Blizzard doesn't patch the game for a while = ZOMG BLIZZ, WHY YOU NO COOL RANDOM PATCHES LIKE DOTA AND LOL TO SHAKE UP THE METAGAME Blizzard does exactly that = WTF BLIZZ, WHY ALL THESE RANDOM CHANGES? CLUELESS NOOBS. Honestly, these threads are getting harder and harder to read. Well I can only say that I don't really like changes just to shake up the meta, so I complain if that is what they are planning to do, even if other people ask them to do it(funnily not everyone agrees with each other). I however think there are plenty of things that can be done to make the game better, especially when it comes to protoss, making the race more staple and less gimmicky(and same with mech, but less important since T isn't forced to play gimmicky). So yeah, I complain when they essentially go the exact opposite direction. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
mech/air upgrades combinement: I still see this only affecting TvT. Might open up some mech/banshee timings in TvZ, so we´ll see. kinda meh at first: Siege Tank buff: it´s a decent attack speed buff. BUT it´s on a unit that suffers not from unsufficient damage output but some serious flaws in its utility. The Problem on the Siege Tank is not the damage, it´s just way too clumsy to use in this fast pased meta. This buff still only affects TvT, where the Siege Tank already is the dominant unit. It will only increase its dominance there. BAD Buff! Widow Mine nerf: So it´s time to fuck up TvZ. Another big nerf to a core unit of the terran standard composition in a non mirror, which Blizzard wants to compensate by buffing mirror only units. You might see more Siege Tanks than widow mines after those changes, but you will see a big blow to terran winrates in the matchup as well! Overall from Terran point of view: If the changes go through this way, the game might become a 2race game. Yes I know that this is a drastic statement, but while we still have a small number of successful terran players at the top, it´s not like Terran dominates everything right now. Terran is atm the least represanted race in WCS Korea for excample and if you don´t only focus on major tournament wins, but top 2 placements f.e., you don´t see any glimpse of terran dominance in HotS. Again I want to say, I have absolutely no problems with a massive nerf to widow mines like that. I agree that mines are too strong right now. But there HAS to be real compensation. And this is clearly not the case here. Oracle buff: I think oracles are fine right now. Over the course of a game, they can become very cost efficiant in TvP. They have great utility with revalation. No buff needed here! DT buff: You want a proof of David Kim´s incompetence as game designer? Here you have it! Roach buff: I agree that burrow movement is underused. I just want to point out, that fast burrow movement with the fast healing of burrowed roaches could make them nearly unkillable. But a speed of 2.25 might be still ok in that regard, so this sounds like a good idea. | ||
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:25 Assirra wrote: Blizzard doesn't patch the game for a while = ZOMG BLIZZ, WHY YOU NO COOL RANDOM PATCHES LIKE DOTA AND LOL TO SHAKE UP THE METAGAME Blizzard does exactly that = WTF BLIZZ, WHY ALL THESE RANDOM CHANGES? CLUELESS NOOBS. Honestly, these threads are getting harder and harder to read. I mean, it's almost like the community is made up of more than 1 vocal majority, each of which has their own opinions. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
Widow Mines splash nerfed, nice change, it maybe is too much nerfed, for example, I would let it be 1.35, so the number is wrong, but the idea is right. Siege Tank buffs, nice, I like it more than just flat damage buff. Roach burrow speed is awesome, Roaches will be crazy fast underground, and it will probably lead to more sneak attacks and harassment. Mech and Air weapon upgrades combined, I am kind of neutral about it, has to go through testing to see how powerful it really is, and will Terran just switch from Mech to Air, or would it be still quite hard to play with Mech. All in all, I like this quite a lot. | ||
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NOFX
France32 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:37 syriuszonito wrote: YES! Let the terran tears flow, tvz will no longer be a 3base rally into win anymore! YES! Let the lings flow, TvZ will now be near like end of WoL TvZ ! yay ! Please, use your brain... | ||
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Rockafella
United Kingdom291 Posts
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Buddy168
United States157 Posts
Yeah no thanks, I'll pass. I like my workers not being able to be run down. | ||
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Intricate
Canada127 Posts
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kasumimi
Greece460 Posts
Which is poorly, btw. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On September 24 2013 07:37 kasumimi wrote: If you are still being surprised about the weird and random balance changes you must be new to SC2. These are pretty standard for DK, simply reflecting on how he perceives SC2. Which is poorly, btw. I´m still wondering why he isn´t fired yet. That is the surprise to me! | ||
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