On September 01 2013 02:27 paradoxOO9 wrote: I'm confused, how are "fans" of this game so damn pessimistic?
You can be a fan and understand the way the world is.
There's a difference between being a fan, and being a blind fanboy, maybe people can just accept the reality of the situation. Or maybe they are OK with SC2, but prefer BW, and bad things for SC2 have the potential to benefit BW.
No, the only one can get benefit from this is LOL
Admit it, Kespa will never go back to BW, if they can have the profit from BW, they would never join SC2
And now they have LOL.
I still have some hope for the BW revival after/if the majority of top players switches back. If someone like Bisu was to go back and a couple more players, I think it would be a pretty big deal.
The game is still quite popular and SSL is growing in popularity as well.
hmm, imo it would be better if they (out of desperation, in a year or so) tried to create their own arcade game based on SC2BW. Or just create an arcade game with changed design choices (reworked economy etc), it's own balance but same (or similar) units and everything. Maybe that could catch interest of Korean scene...
On September 01 2013 02:27 paradoxOO9 wrote: I'm confused, how are "fans" of this game so damn pessimistic?
You can be a fan and understand the way the world is.
There's a difference between being a fan, and being a blind fanboy, maybe people can just accept the reality of the situation. Or maybe they are OK with SC2, but prefer BW, and bad things for SC2 have the potential to benefit BW.
No, the only one can get benefit from this is LOL
Admit it, Kespa will never go back to BW, if they can have the profit from BW, they would never join SC2
And now they have LOL.
I still have some hope for the BW revival after/if the majority of top players switches back. If someone like Bisu was to go back and a couple more players, I think it would be a pretty big deal.
The game is still quite popular and SSL is growing in popularity as well.
Yes, it's popular, but Age of Empires is also popular in Russia ladders and that game is still not alive. E-sports need profits, need new bloods,the Kespa got a great deal of trouble before they switched to SC2. And SC2 simply did not save them, but LOL did. So the BW will never be like before, perhaps Bisu or someone else might go back and play SSL But is that really a "benefit"? Just not totally dead. Just it. Imagine If you give these two games (BW, LOL) to one hundred teenage boys wo used to love SC2. Are you expecting them to choose BW if Bisu go back and playing? No, that's least likely to happen. Most of them will choose LOL for sure. The death( I don't think SC2 is dead, but I will use this word here) of SC2 can do nothing beneficial to BW, Perhaps one or two boy used to choose SC2 may turn back to BW( The other 99 go to LOL for sure) The so called "increasing popularity"compares nothing to the great loss of Starcraft series.you are killing one game alive by a dead game, that is all. Young men will not go to see BW if SC2 dies. Sponsors will not support BW if SC2 dies. They will are turn to LOL, or dota2( But I don't think dota2 has enough market in Korea)
No matter now bad the SC2 is ,it is still the greatest e-sport game after BW And now u guys trying to kill it, and believe BW will resurrect by the death of its inheritor. While in fact the only one can be benefited is MOBA game. (I'm not saying they are bad, but definitely they are more like pure game not e-sports) How pity.
Honestly, I feel like the worst news is the 'teams focus on LoL' + 'SC2 teams cut to 5-6 players' + the fact that Prime, IM then joined (all together), implying they will very soon do the same (is IM really going to dump half of their team? =/).
On September 01 2013 05:26 Aeceus wrote: This is worse than reading football rumours on twitter, you guys just pull shit out of your asses, especially SNM
The Chinese translator wooyeon, who has a great amount of connections in the Korean scene, shared her opinion on the rumors of Bisu retiring: "Personally I think any of TBLS retiring would be a devastating blow to KeSPA, I don't think KeSPA would let them go that easily. Stork, who is in a way worse shape than Bisu, isn't retiring, that could mean something, if not a big thing."
All this really means is that the Korean public isn't interested in games that have 15 minutes of inactivity leading up to 5-10 second deathball confrontations with squishy units and coinflip AOE. I'm sure Blizzard will put the right team together to produce SC3, and in 2019 we'll have our game.
On September 01 2013 05:32 digmouse wrote: The Chinese translator wooyeon, who has a great amount of connections in the Korean scene, shared her opinion on the rumors of Bisu retiring: "Personally I think any of TBLS retiring would be a devastating blow to KeSPA, I don't think KeSPA would let them go that easily. Stork, who is in a way worse shape than Bisu, isn't retiring, that could mean something, if not a big thing."
Wish this would be true. Bisu has potential to be at least as good as Jaedong in SC2.
REMEMBER THESE ARE RUMORS. i don't feel all to good on the inside right now as well, with the fear of sc2 becoming a dying game. but these are all rumors. everything that has been posted here are rumors. rumors like this are the same as with irak. when some people thought they had nukes there. lets just all keep patient and not spread the word of death before anything has been confirmed. i hope its all fake though.
On September 01 2013 05:32 digmouse wrote: The Chinese translator wooyeon, who has a great amount of connections in the Korean scene, shared her opinion on the rumors of Bisu retiring: "Personally I think any of TBLS retiring would be a devastating blow to KeSPA, I don't think KeSPA would let them go that easily. Stork, who is in a way worse shape than Bisu, isn't retiring, that could mean something, if not a big thing."
Wish this would be true. Bisu has potential to be at least as good as Jaedong in SC2.
He has definitely been getting better. I'd like to see him stick with it and see if he can break into the individual leagues
On September 01 2013 05:37 jdsowa wrote: All this really means is that the Korean public isn't interested in games that have 15 minutes of inactivity leading up to 5-10 second deathball confrontations with squishy units and coinflip AOE. I'm sure Blizzard will put the right team together to produce SC3, and in 2019 we'll have our game.
On September 01 2013 05:37 jdsowa wrote: All this really means is that the Korean public isn't interested in games that have 15 minutes of inactivity leading up to 5-10 second deathball confrontations with squishy units and coinflip AOE. I'm sure Blizzard will put the right team together to produce SC3, and in 2019 we'll have our game.
You don't watch sc2 apparently.
He exaggerates, but pretty much has the gist of the game.
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